Using Mil Dots

[only1harry]

I agree with that last statment Mike and I am going to ask you guys to play nice, especially Sam. Choose your words carefully when posting and be mindful and respectful.  I do not wish to receive any more complaints..

Harry

[condor22]

I just deleted chairgun, I shall never have use of ever again. You need to read my post again as you have made a false statement. Admin you should read the post again, also. I will not be falsely accused of posting chairgun is a substitute for practice.

Sam 

(Duely noted and Admin sees. Also note NO name calling or bickering in open forum. Will not be tolerated.
D Ez)

[condor22]

I found them.

Ray

Excellent videos, knows his mil-dots and even got the metric mils correct. Threw me off at first saying one mil equals 100mm at 100m which is true, but it usually said as one mil equals 10cm at 100 meters. Have watched 'em before and will again. Enjoy

Sam 

[02stampede]

I agree with that last statment Mike and I am going to ask you guys to play nice, especially Sam. Choose your words carefully when posting and be mindful and respectful.  I do not wish to receive any more complaints..

Harry

 

Not trying to ruffle one's feathers.

[condor22]

  Using mil-dots is not rocket science and if you can read or have any experience what so ever, you can figure 'em out. It's so simple, just go out and set up some targets and shoot. I removed the chairgun software,........You really don't need any software to go out and have fun. I don't take my computer to the shooting range or never have I ever had to consult chairgun while hunting, never had that much time to setup my laptop, when game/varmints presented themselves. Someone savvy should suggest to Hawke, they need to adapt chairgun into a cellphone APP., then everyone  could have chairgun everywhere and it would be simple to mount the phone onto his scope or as a hand held trajectory calculator   

  If you would like to try Chairgun, be prepaired to spend adequate time reading the manual, at least once because mulling through it is not an option and you'll find out if you put garbage in,  garbage out is the results. Chairgun is not an easy program to use, read the manual and buy a chronograph. one is required for accurate chairgun use. http://www.hawkeoptics.com/apps/chairgun-pro.html

  I do promote the shooter ready simulation, free demo online or complete program on CD which is for sale. Just stating nicely, This is not a substitute for any actual real world trigger time and it won't help you zero or plot any holdover/under points on a mil-dot reticle. What this simulation will do is Teach you the proper way to use mil-dots as intended for reticle range finding.  Mil-dots were not designed for hold over/under as used with airguns, but they have been adapted to serve that purpose quite well. http://www.shooterready.com/lrsdemo.html

Sam 

[Bill G]

bottom line on Mil-dots.  Mil-dots are a representation of arc based on angle.  Imagine that the center is the center of a circle and each mill dot is equivalent to some portion of a degree of arc within that circle.  Mil-dots where originally used on a 10x magnification.  The manufacturer of the optic should indicate at what power their mil-dot is calibrated to.  As for 10x 1mil is basicly3.6in at 100yrds.  You can scale it from there, which is what happens when you change the magnification from the set magnification for the mill dot.  For me the set magnification is 10x.  Mil-dot are mil-dots and they represent a scale.  Trajectory is flight path dependent upon velocity.  Faster = less time of flight, thus less time for gravity to influence the drop of the pellet.  Zero is where you choose it to be and where the pellet hits with in the scale of mil-dots is a product of flightpath.  Chairgun is a tool to asses the flight path and help you decide where you may want to establish a zero and give a realistic range of potential performance.  If you enter the correct parameters you will find that it is very accurate.  In fact I've used it for accurate bullet placement past 100yrs with out adjusting elevation knob.  Once you have a solution that matches performance it is all on.  You do have to prove everything in the field of course.  You can use it for accurate ranging also but i'll not go there unless there is an interest.   

[ezman604]

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