Refinishing Crosman 622 wood stocks

[Ronno6]

For some reason there were a glut of old buttstocks for Crosman 622 Pelclip Repeaters hanging around.
their shape is pretty much the same as that of the wood stocks for 777/2100/2200 pumpers.
In fact, the tang matches up precisely with the receives on those guns.

Many have finishes that are beat up or otherwise uu-useable as received.
And, I can make wood forearm/pump handles from scratch but matching the grain and color is a problem.

so, refinishing is often needed.
I have not had much success using the traditional method: strip, sand, stain, finish.
The wood used never seems to tale stain uniformly and the stock looks like &^^&..........

It appears that Crosman just applied a tinted finish to the wood. That makes the finish uniform, but really obscures the natural grain of the wood.
I stripped and prepped this stock, but the color and figuring looked so good that I decided to just apply Tru Oil and see what happens...

Here is a comparison between an original and the stock in process.
2 Coats of Tru Oil so far; more coats eill follow...

[Blowpipe Sam]

Looks like one of the older Elm stocks.  It's beautiful.  Those Elm stocks are hard to match because they don't take a stain well.  I can come close to matching the oiled Elm color on a pale smooth grained hardwood like Beech and then airbrush faux grain on it.  That would be my best bet.  Only problem is I will have to seal the faux finish with Polyurethane.  It might work If I used a satin finish.  Thinking about matching the finishes between the stock and the forearm here.

[Ronno6]

I think I can get elm blanks for the forearms......whacha think?

[rsterne]

Some of the older Crosman stocks are gorgeous under the horrible brown finish....



Bob

[avator]

Yep, I've always had great results from the older Crosman Elm stocks. Many of the grain patterns look like flames.

[TooJung2Die]

I've tried tinted finishes on stocks, brush on and spray on. I didn't like the results. I think the Crosman elm stocks look great and are best left unstained and finished with tru-oil. One of the nice characteristics of tru-oil is it will take on a darker amber color as it ages over the years.

[Back_Roads]

I think I can get elm blanks for the forearms......whacha think?

I can source Elm local trees still survive 30 - 40 years before dying.

[avator]

Here's what I found under the factory finish on one I did for another member a few years back. I can't seem to locate a finished pic. I did it in tru oil and it turned out great.

[Ronno6]

I have ordered some 2x2x11" elm turning blanks.
That wastes 1" of length....not bad.
I hope the wood s a close match to the stocks........I could be on to something.

[Ronno6]

Now I have to re-teach myself hot to machine the forearms.........It has been a while.

[Ronno6]

While I await the delivery of the elm forearm blanks.
I finished up the mounting of the buttstock destined for another GTA member's 2200

[Ronno6]

This splotchiness is what I typically encounter.
I sanded the heck out of this stock, but the dark spots either persist or return.
I wipe with acetone, but that doesn't help.
Should I try bleach?
Is this considered "character" and therefore acceptable?? Desirable??

[Ronno6]

This is an alternate method of adapting/mounting the 622 stock to the 2100/2200.
The shim, printed for me  by pblawler, indexes the stock on the receiver, and adjusts the angle so that the minder bolt goes straight in to the tang.
Without the wedge I have to take an angled cross cut at the tank and fashion and glue a locator pad onto the front of the tang.

This method is a bit gimmicky, but maybe unnoticeable??

[Van]

This splotchiness is what I typically encounter.
I sanded the heck out of this stock, but the dark spots either persist or return.
I wipe with acetone, but that doesn't help.
Should I try bleach?
Is this considered "character" and therefore acceptable?? Desirable??

  I like the way you adapted that stock.  I stripped three Elm 160 stocks that I got from Numrich with Kwik Strip foaming spray and it lifted all the old dark muddy stain and finish very well.  Then stained with alcohol-based stains by Laurel Mountain Forge and finished with True Oil.  I like the grain patterns on these so much as they look so retro from the 1960s guns I had long ago.  This was one I adapted to a .25 cal. carbine that I put together recently.

[Ronno6]

This splotchiness is what I typically encounter.
I sanded the heck out of this stock, but the dark spots either persist or return.
I wipe with acetone, but that doesn't help.
Should I try bleach?
Is this considered "character" and therefore acceptable?? Desirable??

  I like the way you adapted that stock.  I stripped three Elm 160 stocks that I got from Numrich with Kwik Strip foaming spray and it lifted all the old dark muddy stain and finish very well.  Then stained with alcohol-based stains by Laurel Mountain Forge and finished with True Oil.  I like the grain patterns on these so much as they look so retro from the 1960s guns I had long ago.  This was one I adapted to a .25 cal. carbine that I put together recently.

Can you provide a link to the foaming stripper??

[Van]

   Here is a picture of the stripper I used.  I found it at Ace Hardware for about $14 I think.  Wal Mart used to have it cheaper, but I could not find it there anymore.  It foams up on the stock then after a few minutes the old finish bubbles up and you can scrape it off then wash with solvent and scrub pads.  All four of my old 160 stocks stripped with one application and did not have any blotches.  I just did a fine grit sanding job, water wet to raise the grain and 0000 steel wool to finish smoothing it out.   Here are 3 more stocks also done the same treatment in different color. They were in fair shape when I got them used from Numrich but well worn. Need good stripper gloves as it will burn your hands quickly.  I put these guns together from parts and needed stocks.