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Help with altaros reg for talon
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March 10, 2023, 06:42:39 PM »
Dont mean to spam the message board but need your guys help.
So as mentioned in another post i am trying to rebuild my old and broken talon ss.
My regulator from talon tunes arrived yay.
Not sure if i should have splurged for the reg or waited until I saw how the upgraded hammer and breach effected consistency.
Anyway I am not sure what adapter I need to fill with. I have a hand pump currently setup for the fill adapter that came with my air arms 410 years ago. Got it used so not sure what the exact part is and cant seem to find it.
What adapter will I need to fill my reg from the pump? And os there an adapte that would let me quick change them so i dont have to use the wrench to unscrew and screw them in? Snap or locking collar would be great.
I have emailed Anthony after placing order when it occured to me i would need another adapter but never heard back as i am sure he is very busy.
Also any talon users have a ballpark setting i should put the reg setting to along with tophat and power wheel? I was assuming power wheen at max or close to it and top hat at max and then adjust power via regulator?
Kind of a PITA to adjust but I dont know how often i would adjust power anyway.
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Re: Help with altaros reg for talon
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March 11, 2023, 10:09:21 AM »
This adapter will make the 410 adapter a foster quick release, then add a femal foster to your fill hose.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/air-venturi-male-quick-disconnect-1-8-bspp-female-threads-steel-rated?a=3550
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/air-venturi-foster-female-quick-disconnect-to-1-8-bspp-male-5000-psi?a=4926
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/air-arms-fill-adapter?a=4085
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Re: Help with altaros reg for talon
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March 11, 2023, 11:08:24 AM »
So i would need all 3 to be able to quick swap and fill both guns?
Right now my pump has the quick disconnect that screws into the pumps hose, and clips to the fill port on the air arms and fills it. Its great, sadly it is much bigger than the microscopic size fill port on the reg.
In your links the brass air arms fill adapter i cant fugure out how it works as it looks like it has a hole in it
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Re: Help with altaros reg for talon
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March 11, 2023, 12:10:02 PM »
I guess a picture would help, never heard of a small reg fill port, perhaps there is something missing that I am not aware of
Here are my reg setups on my Escape UL
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Re: Help with altaros reg for talon
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March 11, 2023, 05:43:11 PM »
Trying to send pics of the setup but for some reason it wont post. No errors or anything.
Just acts like it would post but then it doesn't show.
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Re: Help with altaros reg for talon
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Re: Help with altaros reg for talon
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March 11, 2023, 06:42:11 PM »
Thanks. Thats the video i found.
The little fill valve on the reg is way way to small for my currenr quick connect to use.
The air arms fill adapter i have hooked to the pump is much much bigger but same kinda design.
So what i am trying to figure out what fill connect do i need for this reg to hook to the pump hose ? I have tried to google it and there seems to be like 4 different ones that look similar.
Also os there an adapter that would allow me to swap from air arms one to the one for the reg? That way i wont have to screw and unscrew them each time
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Re: Help with altaros reg for talon
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March 11, 2023, 07:01:42 PM »
You should only need these 2 items, male or female will depend on the pump hose end.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/air-venturi-male-quick-disconnect-1-8-bspp-female-threads-steel-rated?a=3550
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/air-arms-fill-adapter?a=4085
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Re: Help with altaros reg for talon
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March 11, 2023, 09:19:15 PM »
Thanks will order one.
The air arms one looks way different than the air arms quick fill i have. Not sure how it works with the hole in the back though.
Mine looks just like the air venturi quick connect in the picture except much bigger.
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Re: Help with altaros reg for talon
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March 11, 2023, 09:23:11 PM »
Oh since you have talons with the reg. What powerwheel setting did you use? I assume its at full and the reg is what you use to set power?
Same with the tophat i assume? Full power option(like 2 or 3 turns if i remember right)
For reg what is a good starting point? Probably be using jsb 18 grn, or 21 grn kodiak or crow magnums depending on what shoots well. Ballpark setting would be helpful as it looks like yoi gotta drain the tank every time you adjust reg.
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Re: Help with altaros reg for talon
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March 11, 2023, 09:36:14 PM »
I have different springs etc. so my settings will not match up like FX tunes sorry.
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Re: Help with altaros reg for talon
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March 12, 2023, 12:34:33 AM »
Well thanks for all the help.
But as a basic guideline its pretty much regulator now that adjust power and changing powerwheel or top hat doesn't do much?
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