Hector thank you for this very kind offer!!!!! but I'm going to pass, I think I have my mind set on a HW80, I did a side by side with my 97k and my R1, my R1 .20cal with the chopped barrel 12.25'' with the can on it is shorter in length a few inches compared to the 97 with a can on it and it about a pound or more lighter as well, so I think this is the route I'm going to go on this thank you all for ur replies