Personally I would give the up adjustment a full turn at a time until you see the POI go up. If it doesn't then there's probably something wrong with the scope but don't mark my word
How far is your target from you(5yds, 10yds, ect)? Are you one handing, two handing or bench resting the pistol. Are your crosshairs blurred or clear, do you have other pellets you can try. I shoot pistols a lot and you shouldn't have that much adjusting on the scope, forgive me, my curiosity has got the better of me. Just trying to figure out were the issue is to help you out.
I would try another scope , if its not the gun..I have 3 ....2 in pistol form and one carbine ..all crosman barrels (all my crosman barrels are good)all are on the money if I do my part...good luck
First, is the gun accurate? Without regard to location, how does it group? Fire 5 shots (no more than ten yards) at the same aim point without touching the sights. Are they close together or spread out? If close, then it is an adjustment problem if they are spread out, I would call Crosman for a return label.
I just recently got the same configuration but with the standard 10" barrel.Yes, it took a bunch of full turns on the scope to get it adjusted. If you run out of adjustment, you can shim the scope ring.The trigger sear spring is adjustable but mine came in at a high trigger pull. I backed it out, that helped, but I ended up putting in a softer spring to get it down to 1-2 lbs. This helped tighten up the groups. You can see what I ended up with in the picture below. I also added a washer on the sear pin under the sear to center and tighten that. If you take off the trigger group cover, be conscious of the safety spring and ball bearing, they can go flying, never to be found again. You can make the spring adjustment and even replace the spring without taking that cover off.If you are shooting unsupported, and this is your first pistol scope, there is a learning curve. This was the case for me. I had a tendency to try to jerk the trigger based on what I was seeing in the scope. That combined with the originally stiff trigger made the first couple of shooting sessions disappointing. If this is meant to be a target pistol with a lot of the shooting at either 5 or 10 meters, consider adding a power adjuster. Stock, my 2300KT came in at about 550 ft/s with the adjuster I reduce that to the low to mid 400's. This makes it quieter, less recoil, less CO2, and further smooths out the trigger. They go for $10 to $30 and should have been an option at CCS.So yeah the first bunch of shots had me scratching my head, but with a few minor adjustments it now shoots better than I do....That part will take more work.I'm happy with my 2300KT, hope yours works out. Good luck and welcome to GTA
hi, welcome to the forum. yes, generally LW barrels aren't too picky. however it is still possible to come across pellets that a given barrel (LW or other) that the barrel just doesn't like. some pellets , like daisy, may give you worse groups than you're already getting. always best to try and keep a bunch of different pellets on hand to try. pyramid sells pellets at a good price and they have a very large assortment. sometimes a given barrel may end up liking an inexpensive pellet, but i'd give some of the tried and true pellets a go before making any judgements on your pistol/barrel. wadcutter pellets generally don't do good at high speeds or longer distances...20-25yards roughly. also you didn't mention the distance you were shooting. what was the temperature ? with co2 temperature can affect velocity, changes in velocity can affect accuracy. also the speed which one shoots can affect the velocity. shooting very quickly between shots can cool the gun down and this is amplified in cool weather. also shooting in high heat can affect the gun by creating partial valvelock. did you clean the barrel first ? a new barrel almost always needs cleaning cuz they come heavily oiled/greased to prevent corrosion. a new barrel will also sometimes do better after a 100 or so shots....break in period. did you check the crown ? if you're comfortable with taking it apart you can also check where the transfer port was drilled into the barrel. LW makes the barrels, but crosman does the machining. sometimes there is a burr inside the barrel where the transfer port was drilled. this can scratch the pellets as they're loaded and make them fly screwy.check the mounts on the scope, make sure they're in the dovetails on the breech securely. sometimes mounts don't get all they way in on the crosman breeches. like was mentioned above, pistol scopes can take some getting used to. they have a longer eye relief and it is easier to have parallax errors. you can also make sure the breech is sitting flush on the tube. sometimes during assembly the transfer port doesn't get seated correctly and will impede the breech sitting firmly on the tube.a note on cleaning the barrel. use a pull through type cleaning set-up. you don't want to damage the crown and the LW barrels are choked and you don't want to wear the choke funny. don't over saturate the patches as so cleaner can go down the transfer port. try to stay away from clearers that will damage rubber seals and o-rings. there are lots of threads about cleaning. since these guns are so easily to take apart , i usually dis-assemble to clean the barrels...unless i just want to pull a couple quick patches. also as previously mentioned, some trigger work will help with accuracy. alot of simple inexpensive mods for the trigger. alot of info here, and a few good you tube vids as well. if you like really good triggers, the p-rod trigger group will work with your pistol. though if using the p-rod trigger group you would need to alter or change the stock hammer as well. completely worth it in my opinion for a nice , adjustable 2-stage trigger though. though this seems like alot, don't get discouraged, it's all really pretty simple. co2 is my favorite, and alot of others as well. the 2300 is generally a great gun and good place to start. you'll find over time many modifications and upgrades for performance and looks . all sorts of things can be done with this platform. enjoy.hth, peacekj
Quote from: kj on August 11, 2017, 12:42:46 AMhi, welcome to the forum. yes, generally LW barrels aren't too picky. however it is still possible to come across pellets that a given barrel (LW or other) that the barrel just doesn't like. some pellets , like daisy, may give you worse groups than you're already getting. always best to try and keep a bunch of different pellets on hand to try. pyramid sells pellets at a good price and they have a very large assortment. sometimes a given barrel may end up liking an inexpensive pellet, but i'd give some of the tried and true pellets a go before making any judgements on your pistol/barrel. wadcutter pellets generally don't do good at high speeds or longer distances...20-25yards roughly. also you didn't mention the distance you were shooting. what was the temperature ? with co2 temperature can affect velocity, changes in velocity can affect accuracy. also the speed which one shoots can affect the velocity. shooting very quickly between shots can cool the gun down and this is amplified in cool weather. also shooting in high heat can affect the gun by creating partial valvelock. did you clean the barrel first ? a new barrel almost always needs cleaning cuz they come heavily oiled/greased to prevent corrosion. a new barrel will also sometimes do better after a 100 or so shots....break in period. did you check the crown ? if you're comfortable with taking it apart you can also check where the transfer port was drilled into the barrel. LW makes the barrels, but crosman does the machining. sometimes there is a burr inside the barrel where the transfer port was drilled. this can scratch the pellets as they're loaded and make them fly screwy.check the mounts on the scope, make sure they're in the dovetails on the breech securely. sometimes mounts don't get all they way in on the crosman breeches. like was mentioned above, pistol scopes can take some getting used to. they have a longer eye relief and it is easier to have parallax errors. you can also make sure the breech is sitting flush on the tube. sometimes during assembly the transfer port doesn't get seated correctly and will impede the breech sitting firmly on the tube.a note on cleaning the barrel. use a pull through type cleaning set-up. you don't want to damage the crown and the LW barrels are choked and you don't want to wear the choke funny. don't over saturate the patches as so cleaner can go down the transfer port. try to stay away from clearers that will damage rubber seals and o-rings. there are lots of threads about cleaning. since these guns are so easily to take apart , i usually dis-assemble to clean the barrels...unless i just want to pull a couple quick patches. also as previously mentioned, some trigger work will help with accuracy. alot of simple inexpensive mods for the trigger. alot of info here, and a few good you tube vids as well. if you like really good triggers, the p-rod trigger group will work with your pistol. though if using the p-rod trigger group you would need to alter or change the stock hammer as well. completely worth it in my opinion for a nice , adjustable 2-stage trigger though. though this seems like alot, don't get discouraged, it's all really pretty simple. co2 is my favorite, and alot of others as well. the 2300 is generally a great gun and good place to start. you'll find over time many modifications and upgrades for performance and looks . all sorts of things can be done with this platform. enjoy.hth, peacekjThank you so much for your insight, its very much appreciated! You were definitely on the mark, the barrel needed those 100 shots or so to break in. The gun was pretty greased up as you were speculating. Even before tweaking the scope, the second time around the gun was shooting much tighter groups. Also, I am shooting in about 85 degree weather so not too hot.And yes I probably will try out different pellets (considering beeman) because these pellets are a bit light for outdoor shooting. Also, you are correct the pistol scopes definitely take some getting used to, but I made a bunch of full turn adjustments and that seemed to get the scope all zeroed in. I am a beginner as you've probably noticed specially with scopes, but you guys were very helpful.Do you have any barrel cleaners that you can suggest? I see Crown saver is a popular choice.Again thanks for all your insight and help, I really appreciate it!
Quote from: maraudinglizard on August 10, 2017, 08:05:57 AMHow far is your target from you(5yds, 10yds, ect)? Are you one handing, two handing or bench resting the pistol. Are your crosshairs blurred or clear, do you have other pellets you can try. I shoot pistols a lot and you shouldn't have that much adjusting on the scope, forgive me, my curiosity has got the better of me. Just trying to figure out were the issue is to help you out.Thanks for your help, I did end up getting the scope zeroed in . If you're still curious to know I was shooting about 5-6 yards out from a rested position and the crosshairs were clear. Unfortunately no I do not have other pellets to try but I am considering getting some Beemans and other heavier grain pellets to try.
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