Texan

[Prouzy]

The 225 gr bullets I was using I had purchased for my Ruger Old Army,  they are .454 that I got from Moyer's cast bullets.
He has very good prices.  moyerscastbullets.com.

Awesome, thanks. Have you tried any others? Just got mine this week, still figuring it out, such as why folks are getting good results with .454???

[bluethunder]

I owned a .457 Extreme. The outside barrel diameter was .625" inches (5/8's of an inch). If you subtract the .457" inch bore size from .625" inch outside diameter you get .168" inches of metal left. Divide that by 2 and you come up with the thickness of the barrel wall which was .084" inches. If this were a 45-70 a barrel that thin would be called a straw -- not a barrel. This rifle made a fine 50 yard hunter but the barrel harmonics were just plain poor. It was never going to be an accurate 100 yard rifle. I placed two sets of shims between the air tube and the barrel and then cranked them down tight with a leather wrap and worm screw clamps. Accuracy greatly improved. Finally getting to about 3" inch reliable 5 shot groups at 100 yards. I abandon the .457 caliber for a custom heavy barrel .800" inch .30 cal. Shillen for a long range air rifle. When I saw the Texan's long skinny tube I had a lot of skepticism after what I went through with the Extreme.
 
What is the outside diameter of the Texan barrel?

Does the RL shroud work like a harmonics stabilizer?

The Texan looks like it would benefit from a thick carbon fiber sleeve that needs to be epoxyed in place. Is any one experimenting with this concept?

[J. Gordon Knives]

Rapid Air Weapons HM1000 has a carbon fiber sleeve on it. That's not a bad idea. IIRC Green Mountain does that with some of their lightweight .22 barrels. My only concern would be heat build up. That probably wouldn't be an issue with an air rifle barrel.

As far as epoxy is concerned, you might not even need it if done right. You could have a shoulder for it to seat up against in front of the receiver(or as part of the receiver) and have a part of the barrel sticking out the muzzle end. That muzzle end could be threaded and a capture nut, the same diameter of CF tube, could be used to hold the tube on the barrel. There could be more thread exposed for suppressor use. Epoxy should be avoided in the endeavor IMO

[Prouzy]

Blackdiesel had that done to his Carnivore, with the LDC securing the sleeve at the muzzle.  I think rsterne may habe done something similar with the washer set up.  The barrel on the Texan is secured via the bushings and not into a breech block receiver so I assume the CF sleeve would need to end at the muzzle end bushing? I think Tofazfou has done it to his .257.

[bluethunder]

What is the outside diameter of the Texan barrel?

[Prouzy]

What is the outside diameter of the Texan barrel?

.715 is what I got.

[rickjoe11]

They do vary from gun to gun. The sizes that have been measured by NC vary from 0.701 to 0.705. Mine is 0.704

[bluethunder]

Thanks for the measurement. That should leave the barrel's walls about .123" inches thick. About 50% thicker than the barrel walls on the Extreme. That should be a big help with barrel harmonics. And sleeving with carbon fiber would help even more.

Rickjoe11 let me know if you'd like to do an air rifle shoot as I'm also from Ohio. Of course the weather has to break first. I'm from the Circleville area (about 20 miles south of Columbus).

[rickjoe11]

Sounds good bluethunder. I'm just east of Cincinnati. I travel up to Columbus frequently. PM me whenever you want to go shoot. Let us know how this project works out.

[Gut2Fish]

Did anyone receive smaller caliber Texans? Yet to see any posts on initial performance and the release date was 05/31. Looking just now see it was either pushed back or a second shipment is 06/14.

Anxiously  awaiting some data on the .358.

[Monkeydad1969]

Did anyone receive smaller caliber Texans? Yet to see any posts on initial performance and the release date was 05/31. Looking just now see it was either pushed back or a second shipment is 06/14.

Anxiously  awaiting some data on the .358.

Looks like 6/14/16 now on PA and AG.

Joe

[UpNorthAirGunner]

I realize this post is a bit old, but thought I would respond.  I got the .357 Texan and it is going to be primarily my hunting rifle.  Here is Michigan I have never taken a shot over 50 yards so long range wasn't a goal, but now that I have it I am interested in how far I can push this thing out with accuracy.  Still seeking the right pellet / cast bullet.

[rickjoe11]

JSB's are always a "first choice" in pellets, at least for me. They are just very accurate in nearly all of my guns. I recommend you shoot Bob V. of Mr. Hollowpoint a message for some EXCELLENT ammo and advise. He will steer you in the right direction. Google him and find his website. I get ALL of my best hunting ammo from him. A little pricey.....but you DEFINITELY get what you pay for.

Rick

[UpNorthAirGunner]

JSB's are always a "first choice" in pellets, at least for me. They are just very accurate in nearly all of my guns. I recommend you shoot Bob V. of Mr. Hollowpoint a message for some EXCELLENT ammo and advise. He will steer you in the right direction. Google him and find his website. I get ALL of my best hunting ammo from him. A little pricey.....but you DEFINITELY get what you pay for.

Rick

I will definitely check his ammo out for sure.  I have watched his Texan .357 review video about a dozen times now.  Love that he shows the mushroom for each of his rounds in the .357.   Man do those things expand!  I have gone through 2 tins of JSBs and I just can't get them to group.  This gun isn't liking lighter ammo.  Nick from Neilson Specialty Ammo says the twist rate is wrong in the Texan for that lighter ammo at 1:16 - hmmmm......  In other posts I saw he was on the war path to even petition AirForce to change their twist rates to 1:20 or 1:24.  I wonder where all that conversation ended up?

[rickjoe11]

I think you'll find that if you turn the power wheel down...quite a bit....you'll see that the pellets group quite well. Also if you want to keep the power all the way up and still use pellets the JSB XXXheavy 243grain pellets work EXTREMELY WELL......Sorry, that is for the .45 cal version but man those things are MONEY!!!!! (again accurate but also pricey) You may also consider the Benjamin eXTREME by Nosler .357 Cal, 145 gr - 25 ct at $20 per 25 count are great hunters also. At least they are in my Rex .357 and my Sam Yang .357. I will ALWAYS spend the extra with Mr. Hollowpoint though for hunting.

Rick

[nielsenammo]

I own the Texan 357 and the gun is mediocre for accuracy.  I got the gun in trade because the guy who had it was so frustrated with the gun.  My 45 Texan is much more accurate.  Mr Hollowpoint has lots of good ammo so if you have ammo from him that works that what I would stick with.  My ammo is made from a machine cast that can make them 5 times as fast with no quality difference of his ammo and is half the price because of it.

My swage ammo is a much higher quality slug than ANY cast bullet and is still cheaper because I invested in equipment to allow me to do so. 

I rebarreled my 357 Texan and is more accurate than stock.  I am going to rebarrel again because I am trying some different barrels to see what gives the best accuracy.  I went from a 1:16 to a 1:26.  As for the conversation with AF, they seemed to lose interest.  Their loss, you can see Airgun Depot is now selling their guns for $835 instead of the usual $999.  Tells me people are not interested and the guns are not selling. 

I plan to put the stock barrel in and try my new swage die I have for 357, it has proven to be super accurate in a lot of 35 caliber guns.

[nielsenammo]

New slug coming for 45 Texan - 220 grains - very accurate

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