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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2017, 09:39:59 AM »
You can add the stain to as many of the first layers as you wish. If and when you reach your desired darkness you can change over to pure tru oil. Or continue with the mixture. I never tried ebony but my bet is on it having some serious depth to the look. And if it turns out bad.... it's still better than what you have now...lol..... sorry.
And yes... The C9 was produced after Crosman had made the purchase however, they allowed the folks at Benjamin Sheriden to continue production on the C9 without design influence. I think we do ourselves a great injustice when we allow narrow mindedness to trick us into believing that the gun we own is better than anything else. Maybe it is better than anything else ... for you. I think we all remember the guy that thought nothing could out do the Daisy 880... until he got his hands on a Crosman 101. Then the 101 magically morphed into the "lost gun" of his childhood. I LOVE my Sheridans and rightly so.. the simplicity, the very heart and sole that Mr Kraus put into it oozes from each one of them. But, I also have a Crosman Blaze NP that I would shoot  up against anything in it's class from ANY country at ANY price. Lets set up some paintballs at 45 yrds out and shoot til the first man misses. Heck, let's just put up the pinks. And lets go one step farther.... I'll use Walmart pellets. Unweighed and unmeasured. I gotta tell ya, I got some real terds that really shine. And I think what you have right there is destined to be one shiny terd..... wait.... what?
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2017, 09:58:04 AM »
In a "Jim Beam induced" moment I bid on a fugly C9 on gunbroker and NOBODY bid against me.  ::)
Low and behold I won. $70 and she is on her way to me... Seller says she shoots strong and I have a stock from a 392P of the same vintage.
 Lets see what I can do for this diamond in the rough.


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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2017, 10:09:43 AM »
Again with that list of airguns...... I think you need to unplug the internet when you bust out the gin and tonic there Missie..
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2017, 10:40:41 AM »
  Those pictures look familiar, that seller takes all his with the gun lying on that two-tone brown gun case.  I've gotten one or two from him, one of my Crosman 180s a few years ago if I remember right.  You probably did good at 70 bucks. 

  If you like bourbon, you really should try some Old Forester.
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2017, 10:48:49 AM »
Again with that list of airguns...... I think you need to unplug the internet when you bust out the gin and tonic there Missie..

I use the gin to help me get me through arthritis pain so I can click on buy or place an order. :P
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2017, 10:53:32 AM »
Again with that list of airguns...... I think you need to unplug the internet when you bust out the gin and tonic there Missie..

I use the gin to help me get me through arthritis pain so I can click on buy or place an order. :P
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2017, 11:10:13 AM »
Kris, I can't do Gin. Don't know why but I never acquired a taste for evergreens.
 I use the mouse button to keep my trigger finger in shape. ;)

Terry, Yep he uses that bag in a lot of his auction photo's and sells quite a few airguns. "H and K" is his user name. Has several listed at this moment.
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?IncludeSellers=953124
Once I had won, his contact info gave me his phone number and we chatted last night. Seems like a stand-up guy who knew his stuff.
Told me it will ship Monday Priority insured for $100 with tracking info.
Also let me know he will be at the Findlay Airgun Show next month if I want to catch up with him.
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2017, 05:03:03 PM »
Nice buy. You cant go wrong for a good shooter at that price. I too have bought a couple guns from that guy and he was straight with me.
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2017, 11:50:50 PM »
Looks like you got a great deal, Scott. If nothing else it will make a good truck gun!
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2017, 06:14:34 AM »
I've dealt with H and K several times. he's a stand-up guy to deal with.
Personally, I prefer Bushmills 14 year , or Glenfiddich. Not to say that I'll turn my nose up to Jack, or even some Alabama creek water, for that matter 8).
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2017, 07:14:54 AM »
It arrived last night, wood was just as ugly as described.  ;)
I does pump and shoot. but the is a small ding in the tube that causes a momentary "Drag" toward the open end of the stroke when the pumping.
It out past the Air hole so it does not effect the pump cup, rather the hinge point of the linkage as it passes by.
 Think I will take it apart , measure the ID of the tube and try to find some round stock that fits tight enough to insert and try and work the dent back out.
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2017, 07:50:54 AM »
hmmm, that's a bummer.  certainly the seller would have noticed that don't you think? 

when you are working the dent out, I think I would try to find something to clamp around the outside of the tube also.  like maybe also find a piece of pipe whos inside diameter matches the outside diameter of the pump tube.  split the pipe in half and clamp the pipe around the tube so that when you run the round stock down the tube, you cannot blow it out or kink the tube when you run up against the ding. 

kind of like resizing brass before reloading.  you want to support the outside while reaming the inside. 

good luck! 

have you tried shooting it yet? 

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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2017, 09:44:56 AM »
Just dry fired it so far. I want to run a cleaning patch down the barrel, lube it a bit and give it a try.  It did hold a single pump of air for 24 hours when I checked it last night.
Also I can tell the spare stock from my 392P of the same vintage is shaped different because the 392P has a raised comb and the C9 doesn't.
What I do not know yet is if it physically fit. I do like the white spacer and butt plate on this C9.
 The reason I have the spare stock for a 392P is mine came broken but had a solid, good looking repair job. If for some reason the C9 stock fails to clean up like I hope, this may be plan "B" while I watch for nice original C9 wood on e-bay.

Here is the shape of my 392P.

« Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 09:51:36 AM by Hoosier Daddy »
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Gamo: Recon (Grandkids X2)
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2017, 11:28:17 AM »
Scott,
Now in my case the temptation comes from the little green leprechaun that sits on my shoulder trying to get me to jump down the rabbit hole.

Kidding aside, it will be interesting to see how this works out for you and what can be learned for possible application somewhere down the path.

Good luck with this project.
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2017, 12:28:32 PM »
Yes, the C9 and the 39X stocks are definitely a little different (well from 1991-1999 anyways, in the year 2000, they all became identical).

The C9 stock is a little longer due to the buttplate and spacer, and like you mentioned, the 39x stock has a faux raised comb. 

However, while they look slightly different, the 39x stock will definitely line right up and screw into the action of the C9 no problem and vice versa.  I've done it many times. 
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2017, 02:03:11 PM »
I will keep you posted on the updates here Patrick.

Billy: that is conformation is good to know.
 Now to your previous post.
 I am having a hard time envisioning how if I find a piece of pipe who's inside diameter matches the outside diameter of the pump tube, I could use it without splitting it lengthwise for the barrel... and that seems it would negate it's purpose.
 What I was thinking, was getting something to fit tight inside and then use a soft faced mallet to lightly work the dent out from the outside...
 The round stock inside the tube would be like a dolly in metal working to carefully strike against.
I have a soft head hammer and would go slow and easy... It wont take much to remove the binding because it does pump, just drags a bit (enough to annoy me) at that spot of the tube.



You can see from the same are in the linkage slot someone tried to get in from that angle before. Maybe they got it enough to pump and quite.







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Benjamin: 312 (pre '57), 342 ('72), 392P ('93), 392PA ('15), Maximus
Crosman: Genesis NP .22, Quest 1000X, Raven (Grand-kids), 3rd gen 160
Gamo: Recon (Grandkids X2)
Sheridan: C Blue Streak ('85), C9 Blue Streak ('92) and a Co2 Model F (90)
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Xisico: XS60C .22

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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2017, 02:27:29 PM »
Oh, that dents small. Use a hose clamp if you want to get something on the outside of the tube.
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2017, 03:02:52 PM »
Yes it is.
Like I tried to describe, it just binds a bit in that one spot. You can pump past it but feel a resistance when the linkage comes to that spot shown.
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Benjamin: 312 (pre '57), 342 ('72), 392P ('93), 392PA ('15), Maximus
Crosman: Genesis NP .22, Quest 1000X, Raven (Grand-kids), 3rd gen 160
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2017, 09:01:10 PM »
Do you have a machinist friend?  Maybe have a short piece of round stock turned that will just slide inside and positioned with a dowel?
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Re: I think I stepped in it this time...
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2017, 09:27:37 PM »
The dent is not within the swept air chamber is it? I mean, the pump cup won't ride over it right?  Maybe you already said this...
Nevermind, I can see from the picture it is not.
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