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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => European/Asian Air Gun Gates => China/Asian AirGun Gate => Topic started by: Brutuz on December 14, 2010, 11:10:20 AM

Title: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on December 14, 2010, 11:10:20 AM
Chinese Airgun Portal

http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/ (http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/)

I've made this portal since I'm interested in Chinese rifles, hope those interested in them too will like it and hope it will be of use.

Also promoted the GTA after consulting Bob and Gene first and showing them the new portal, hope it will drive new members towards the GTA.

If there's anything missing or wrong please send me a PM, thanks  8)

Bert

Edited by CDT...12/19/10... this will be stickied so members interested in the Chinese guns can view it before it gets dropped down very far and lost. Bert has put a lot of effert and time into his website and the link above is significant to persons interested in the Chinese guns. His link will also be in the library.
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: CharlieDaTuna on December 14, 2010, 11:14:16 AM
I looked at the website and there is a lot of really good info there for those wanting info on the Chinese guns.  ;) ;)  Best I've seen. 8) 8) Bert put a lot of work into it.
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: yote300wsm on December 15, 2010, 04:28:26 AM
I like it !!!!!
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Rocker1 on December 15, 2010, 04:34:58 AM
Thats great  I am serious this should  be in our library I have bookmarked it , thanks Brutuz, David
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: CharlieDaTuna on December 15, 2010, 09:43:33 AM
Good point Dave and I think it should be there also. Gene... let's make it so.
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: JonnyReb on December 15, 2010, 10:23:16 AM
 Thats awesome B, I thought when i first met you on the AA forum years ago with your pistols that you were a guy with a lot to offer to the hobby and sure enough you have been. You did a beautiful job and i'm sure that portal will grow and grow to become an invaluable guide to many shooters in the future.   ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on December 15, 2010, 12:18:58 PM
Thank you all for your kind words  8)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: dk1677 on December 15, 2010, 05:15:22 PM
Great job on it Bert!
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: bart the fart on December 15, 2010, 05:46:35 PM
looks good and i dig your youtube videos too!
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: AirScopes on December 16, 2010, 01:29:58 PM
awesome work!
Title: New Chinese Airgun Portal In GTA Library Now
Post by: gene_sc on December 17, 2010, 07:28:18 AM
Yep this new Chinese Airgun Forum goin in GTA Library. Bert, Bob and I are on the same page as you buddy. To help expand the airgun hobby/sport and help as many new air  gunners as posible with friendly help from all.

New Chinese Air Gun Forum Link In the GTA Library Now..
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: r1derbike on December 18, 2010, 10:12:18 AM
Very nice, Bert! If I could find Ernie, I'd thank him too! ;-]

Charles
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on December 20, 2010, 06:33:59 PM
Thank you all for your kind words, Gene for linking in the Library and Bob for temp stickying it here  8)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Cajun Ruger on December 24, 2010, 12:12:35 AM
Thanks for doing this, I for one like chinese guns and will promote the portal.
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on January 02, 2011, 04:41:33 PM
Thank you  8)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on June 02, 2011, 04:45:19 AM
Chinese Airgun Portal

http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/ (http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/)


For those interested in 78/79 co2 rifles, there'e a new link on the video page of the portal:

"[Collection of vids about the QB / XS 78 & 79] "
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: kenski on July 13, 2011, 02:57:20 PM
New to GTA, Great Portal, answered some questions that I had in regards to gun origin and model #'s
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on July 13, 2011, 03:09:00 PM
Thanks kenski & welcome to the GTA  8)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: MarcsPanther on August 03, 2011, 11:51:49 PM
Hey Brutuz just wanted to say thank you for building your portal. Its great. I did want to ask if there's a reason you didn't included Beeman's chinese rifles SS550, RS1, RS2, RS3. RS2 is an AR1000,TF 89 clone and I belive it's made in Shangai (i could be wrong). It should be of some help for people to know that.
Thanks again Brutuz for taking the time to build that portal.
I keep going back... ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on August 04, 2011, 12:42:52 PM
Thanks PP, I'd love to expand the clone list but don't know Beeman's since I live in Europe, since you're not sure maybe someone else could check please? Thanks very much  8)

http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/clonelist.htm (http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/clonelist.htm)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: MarcsPanther on August 10, 2011, 09:03:45 AM
Hello Brutuz..
Just wanted to let you know it's been confirmed my Mr. @=S+S%^$# in this tread..
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,16420.0.html (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,16420.0.html)
The Chinese Beemans are made in Shangai.
it the SS1000 series that are clones of the ar1000  ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on August 12, 2011, 02:57:26 PM
Thanks, a list I could publish would be appreciated very much!
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on February 26, 2012, 06:20:51 AM
This portal has been online since December 2011 and and looks like it attracts a few vistors  ;)

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa390/Brutuz62/temp/statsjanfeb2012.jpg)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on February 27, 2012, 02:24:36 PM
By the way the BAM website has been updated...
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: rkmitchell on May 15, 2012, 09:44:20 AM
The clone information is of great help to those who are looking for the European equivalent in a Chinese gun.....appreciate the list!
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on June 25, 2012, 06:42:30 PM
Within the next couple of days the portal will be off-line due to a provider switch

Don't worry, it will be back online soon after the switch has been completed
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: David Powell on July 12, 2012, 03:24:20 AM
I would love to find the XS-17 here in the U.S! (Diana 27 clone)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on July 12, 2012, 05:08:11 PM
I would love to find the XS-17 here in the U.S! (Diana 27 clone)

Great little rifle, low on power but enough and accurate too, 4th place in a UK HFT competition "springers / open sights" last year.

Made it 3rd and won a bronze medal with a .177 QB79 "non-recoiling/open sights" this year (last weekend)  8)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: RC1947 on July 12, 2012, 05:20:48 PM
I'd like to see the Shanghai factory ship some of their pistols over here.  If they're anything like their better rifles, I'd sure be interested... like I need another gun 8)RC
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: wern0r on March 27, 2013, 03:27:01 PM
Hi Bert,

you have created a great website with a huge amount of useful information relating chinese airguns. Thank you!

I've two suggestions for your portal:

Clonelist: The Weihrauch HW40 (labeled Made in Germany) is still produced in China as Marksman 2004 Deluxe (labeled Made in China) and also sold under the Label Beeman P3.

Brands List: The Umarex Company is not a US brand. It was founded and is still located in Arnsberg/Germany. But Umarex is, as mentioned in your list, also a reseller in the US market.

I hope this information is useful for you.
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on March 30, 2013, 06:47:32 PM
Thanks very much for the update, amended both pages:

http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/clonelist.htm (http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/clonelist.htm)

http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/brands.htm (http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/brands.htm)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: gene_sc on March 30, 2013, 07:08:53 PM
Thanks Bert for keeping the list up to date bro.  Happy Easter
 
Gene
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on March 30, 2013, 07:34:26 PM
No probz Gene, allthough there is a time issue, wish I could quit having to work and become a pensioner  ;)

Happy Easter to you and all GTA members !
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: gene_sc on March 30, 2013, 08:59:49 PM
Welcome to the club Bert....:) Aint it heII getting old...

Gene


No probz Gene, allthough there is a time issue, wish I could quit having to work and become a pensioner  ;)

Happy Easter to you and all GTA members !
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: zenonine on August 27, 2013, 10:22:49 AM
Thanks for putting this together. Found an in depth review I couldn't find anywhere else. Good job !  8)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on August 27, 2013, 05:14:35 PM
Glad the portal proved to be usefull  8)

Btw new video posted http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/video.htm (http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/video.htm) bottom of page  ;)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: uglymike on September 04, 2013, 06:48:12 PM
Thank you for all you do Brutuz. When I first started my air rifle addiction, your you tube videos and the online information you provided was invaluable. Buy that man a beer!   ;D 
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on September 12, 2013, 05:08:14 PM
Thanks Mike  8)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on May 21, 2014, 04:23:37 PM
The portal is down at the moment but will be online again soon...
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on May 22, 2014, 07:32:18 AM
It's online again
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Ammon177 on May 08, 2017, 04:46:13 PM
Just got a QB78 and will be working on it now that there is such a great resource here.  I understand that they may be converted from powerlets to pcp.
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: stony30 on February 06, 2018, 12:23:40 PM
Thanks for doing this, I for one like chinese guns and will promote the portal.
Me too !! Nice job.
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on February 06, 2018, 12:58:09 PM
Glad it's of use, thanks  8)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: anyone on March 17, 2018, 10:49:35 AM
Hello there,
Since most of the info here is way outdated, perhaps someone can help me?

I'm looking for other distributors of chinese air rifles than flyingdragon.
Already got a Xisico Co2 and the Bamboo XS25B from Mike.

But I'm particularly looking for one of those chinese thumbhole rifles - like  BAM B26-2 Thumbhole, or a Xisico XS25 Wood Thumbhole which are not offered on flyingdragon, or any equivalent with thumbhole stock, merely for optical and collecting reasons :)

Already checked on the internet but ther's almost nothing on those guns or other sellers of Chinese rifles.
So anyone knows other sources?

Regards
Daniel
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: Brutuz on March 17, 2018, 11:02:51 AM
Krale might ship to Austria https://www.krale-schietsport.nl/en/guns/air-rifles.html?manufacturer=146%2C215%2C3152%2C3593 (https://www.krale-schietsport.nl/en/guns/air-rifles.html?manufacturer=146%2C215%2C3152%2C3593)
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: chwillbill68 on March 17, 2018, 10:36:00 PM
Krale might ship to Austria https://www.krale-schietsport.nl/en/guns/air-rifles.html?manufacturer=146%2C215%2C3152%2C3593 (https://www.krale-schietsport.nl/en/guns/air-rifles.html?manufacturer=146%2C215%2C3152%2C3593)

Pretty good prices on that site!
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: anyone on March 18, 2018, 07:17:59 PM
Thx I checked the site, but it sells only the "standard" european brands I get in any other shop here aswell.


Also I read Chinese BAM rifles as such do not exist anymore? BAM seems to exclusively produce for Crosman and other companies now, no own guns?
Title: Re: Chinese Airgun Portal
Post by: patent1 on April 16, 2018, 04:36:43 PM

I found an old .177 B1 in the back of a closet we cleaned out, I had bought it and another (Don't know what happened to the other) for my kids when they were 13- 14 or so for $15 each at a gun show.  It is the only springer I have ever had any experience with, and was probably 30 yrs old or so. I put about about 50 or so pellets through it after cleaning the bore, and it seemed to shoot pretty good. It had a tight breech (not seal, there was a bit of lead flashing that looked like thin aluminum foil in the breech after a few shots) and a good barrel, so I undertook a rebuild as per Mr. B.B.'s excellent writeup of a B1 rebuild. I broke it down, cleaned all parts with brake cleaner, and ordered a 25 mm piston seal conversion to replace the deteriorating leather seal, moly gun grease and heavy tar from Vortek. The piston seal was too loose, so they kindly swapped it for a 26 mm seal kit, which fit perfectly. I found a couple of grade 8 washers at Lowes that were about the right size, ground and filed them to fit the piston and spring guide, and polished them to a mirror finish. Also polished the ends of the spring to a mirror finish and fitted the polished washers inside the piston and on the spring guide. Deburred all the internals, honed the compression tube, fitted an aluminum shim from a 20 oz Red Bull can (don't know how anybody could survive 20 oz of that) in the piston so the spring was tight, it must have taken 3 wraps of the aluminum can to fill the gap betweeen the spring and piston.  Fitted a new breech seal using a 1/4" faucet washer, and put the whole thing back together using a thin layer of the moly in the compression chamber and at each end of the spring where they bore against the polished washers, and on the trigger. Also slathered the heavy tar on the spring.  WOW!  I was AMAZED at the difference! I had not realized it, but the B1 rang and vibrated like a bell before the rebuild, and was smooth as silk after! After adjisting the front sight (dovetail) I can reliably hit a 12 oz soup can at a measured 33 yards with open sights. It has a smooth receiver, so can't mount a scope. It is shooting a bit faster than my 880 Crosman at 10 pumps, (don't have a chrony) so guessing at around 600 fps, maybe a tad faster.  It likes Benjamin 7.4 grain pellets. This has led me to get back into shooting, so I have ordered a .22 Benjamin Prowler and am rebuilding my old Crosman 1377.  I plan on taking the Prowler apart before shooting it and doing the deburring, honing and moly thing with it. Also cleaned up my old cap and ball Remington 1858 (manufactured in 1977), modded it a bit and will be headed to a range after I find some sheep tallow and beeswax.