Anyone heard anything about this compressor?
http://mrodair.com/airmax_extreme_4500_psi_high_speed_hpa_compressor (http://mrodair.com/airmax_extreme_4500_psi_high_speed_hpa_compressor)
Anyone heard anything about this compressor?
http://mrodair.com/airmax_extreme_4500_psi_high_speed_hpa_compressor (http://mrodair.com/airmax_extreme_4500_psi_high_speed_hpa_compressor)
Thanks Rob...for showing us the Power Rangers of compressors..LMBO!
Now all we need are the Black, Pink, Yellow, White, Zeo, Ninja Samurai, Double Down, Chop Suey, etc., etc.
By the way, I may be getting my hands on the blue one to play with...will let you all know.
Now all we need are the Black, Pink, Yellow, White, Zeo, Ninja Samurai, Double Down, Chop Suey, etc., etc.
By the way, I may be getting my hands on the blue one to play with...will let you all know.
Let us know how it is Joe.
I do have a question does the person lending it to you know that you'll be doing a "long term " test of it lol
Dave
Now all we need are the Black, Pink, Yellow, White, Zeo, Ninja Samurai, Double Down, Chop Suey, etc., etc.
By the way, I may be getting my hands on the blue one to play with...will let you all know.
Let us know how it is Joe.
I do have a question does the person lending it to you know that you'll be doing a "long term " test of it lol
Dave
Of course Dave, of course...not.
Mrodair posted a detailed review on you-tube: Hard to tell on video but it sounds pretty loud. Steady 80 - 84 db.
https://youtu.be/z2ws2Cg3qxs
Shaun,
Are you planning on ordering any of the optional accessories with your compressor, if so what are they?
I am actually curious about this unit, for two thingsGood questions, hopefully Mrodair will join in and answer some of them.
What are the average costs of parts to maintain & service this unit?
How often will this compressor need servicing/rebuilding?
Are the moving parts that are subject to wear readily available on the open market or are we mandated to buy from the maker/distributor?
How long has the company that makes it it been in business & what's their reputation like with regards to fully standing behind their product and ensuring their brand maintains a good rep? Because this is a Chinese made unit, if one gets one of these compressors & the manufacturer shuts down or decides to not stock parts for it, the end users will be the ones getting the shaft.
caveat emptor
Shaun,
Are you planning on ordering any of the optional accessories with your compressor, if so what are they?
Stand By....
I will have first hand facts and info here soon.
The first shipment of our new AirMax Extreme compressors
December 29 2015, 9:35 PM
are going out right after the holidays.
Have received and replied to them.
We had ALOT of customers, wanting something a little different than simply a compressor, or ordered several items together.
We also had several that were going to be out of town and requested we contact them before we shipped to them.
These were all addressed first, so we can streamline our shipping.
There are only two of us getting this together today, so this reply is taking from that time as well.
Bill, you were contacted by email or phone already were you not ?
Of 418 emails to send over the weekend, we have over 100 sent so far and will send more in the next 2-3 days in the late evening.
When I called to inquire with mike had said that he was testing each and everyone . And would be shipping soon. I had one on order since the first day he came out about them.
He sent me my tracking info last night. so I would imagine these are rolling out now.
I will update when I recieve it.
I will be getting one soon
I will be getting one soon
Been hearing this a LOT lately......
i haven't even received an email YET
ok so let me get this straight,there are still compressors up for order now,and with all the upgrades, and testing , how long till shipped if i order one now..............? and how much? and do you do pay-pal.........?
ok so let me get this straight,there are still compressors up for order now,and with all the upgrades, and testing , how long till shipped if i order one now..............? and how much? and do you do pay-pal.........?
Gotta wonder why no reply to this question? Vendor comes on here and say they are available, givse link to site, but no answer on shipping.
Wow.....give it a break!!!!!!!
Our current shipping time is 5-7 business days if ordered with the upgrades installed.
The shipping, is thru US post office and varies by your location (typically around 55-65 bucks)
This is actual shipping cost. Some are a bit less and a couple have been a bit more.
Instead of charging twice the price for the compressor and a set high sticker price postage, we test the compressors before we ship them and only after we know the actual shipping cost, do we charge you shipping at all.
Some want priority
Some want express
Some want the updates and some do not require them.
Some have specifications we cater to not even listed on our website.
We figured you could add, but were obviously mistaken.
We figured you could add, but were obviously mistaken.
a possible customer they just lost i would say,
We figured you could add, but were obviously mistaken.
Who is this directed at?
Our current shipping time is 5-7 business days if ordered with the upgrades installed.
You must not be reading other forums....
Me... tbear on the tag. And Anthony on the yellow got them, I'm she there are lurkers with them too. ..
The Compressor works like a champ..
And btw mike did cut me a discount on the scratch and dent... it was known prior to shipping to me.
I did see what tbear wrote....
We figured you could add, but were obviously mistaken.
I guess you and me are the only one who has this compressor so far....
Our current shipping time is 5-7 business days if ordered with the upgrades installed.
The shipping, is thru US post office and varies by your location (typically around 55-65 bucks)
This is actual shipping cost. Some are a bit less and a couple have been a bit more.
Instead of charging twice the price for the compressor and a set high sticker price postage, we test the compressors before we ship them and only after we know the actual shipping cost, do we charge you shipping at all.
Some want priority
Some want express
Some want the updates and some do not require them.
Some have specifications we cater to not even listed on our website.
We figured you could add, but were obviously mistaken.
Well, there you go guys.Don't you wish all airgun and accessory vendors were this responsive.
Thanks MrodAir for the help!!
You must not be reading other forums....
Me... tbear on the tag. And Anthony on the yellow got them, I'm she there are lurkers with them too. ..
The Compressor works like a champ..
And btw mike did cut me a discount on the scratch and dent... it was known prior to shipping to me.
Got a buddy who lives in Venice! He is into shooting as well.
i paid for the compressor plus upgrades & have been asking for a shipping date via email for at least 2 weeks with no answer or email Why ?
and now you are telling these people if they order you will ship in 5 to 7 business days ?
so i am asking here for my shipping date ???Our current shipping time is 5-7 business days if ordered with the upgrades installed.
Our current shipping time is 5-7 business days if ordered with the upgrades installed.
The shipping, is thru US post office and varies by your location (typically around 55-65 bucks)
This is actual shipping cost. Some are a bit less and a couple have been a bit more.
Instead of charging twice the price for the compressor and a set high sticker price postage, we test the compressors before we ship them and only after we know the actual shipping cost, do we charge you shipping at all.
Some want priority
Some want express
Some want the updates and some do not require them.
Some have specifications we cater to not even listed on our website.
We figured you could add, but were obviously mistaken.
Thanks Anthony,
Once again, My appologies for overlooking your upgrade order.
You see the compressor first hand and know how fast they fill and how they are built.
We are shipping these everyday now and only a couple more days they will all be on the way.
We did just receive 50 more, so looks like its round two coming real quick.
As for growing pains, you hit it on the head brother.
I have hired more help and this is making a big difference.
Never thought we would be so busy.
I know we have been slow on replies about these guys, but we are full time right now on these compressors and installing the upgrades.
Our test, includes filling 2 tanks to 4500 before we ship and this is taking a bit longer than we anticipated.
Thank you for your patience and your business.
We Are Mrodair
Well I got the compressor and upgrade.. trying to figure out how to get all the upgrade stuff installed.
Well I got the compressor and upgrade.. trying to figure out how to get all the upgrade stuff installed.
Hmmm I was under the impression the compressors were to be fully assembled and tested prior to shipping .. guess I was mistaken..
does anybody have one running with all of the upgrades yet ?No. I have one with the upgrades, but when I flip the switch nothing happens. I'm sure I'm missing something. I watched the "out of the box" video from Mrodair on YouTube, but mostly the guys were talking about the compressor and what it can do. I guess what I need is a step by step guide for the complete idiot who has no idea what he's doing. :-\
Dick
does anybody have one running with all of the upgrades yet ?No. I have one with the upgrades, but when I flip the switch nothing happens. I'm sure I'm missing something. I watched the "out of the box" video from Mrodair on YouTube, but mostly the guys were talking about the compressor and what it can do. I guess what I need is a step by step guide for the complete idiot who has no idea what he's doing. :-\
Dick
EdMine fell out too, evidently. I finally figured out where it goes, popped it back in there, and now it's running like a top. I don't feel so bad now. :)
mine had been dropped or something and the electrics were all loose under the cover and the solenoid had also fallen out
but i would be interested in seeing how you have the radiator and 4 gal bucket/bottle hooked up with the 90 degree brass fittings
Dick
does anybody have one running with all of the upgrades yet ?
Dick
does anybody have one running with all of the upgrades yet ?
Dick
yes mine is up and running and it is fast.. all i've filled so far is my disco and it seemed like it was just under a minute to fill
does anybody have one running with all of the upgrades yet ?
Dick
yes mine is up and running and it is fast.. all i've filled so far is my disco and it seemed like it was just under a minute to fill
I guess I should say was up and running.. now trying to fill a tank.. runs for 15 secs at most then shuts itself off
Mounting to unit, tabs go between sheet metal and frame for a clean install.
Much more in our new video as soon as I can get it edited
does anybody have one running with all of the upgrades yet ?
Dick
yes mine is up and running and it is fast.. all i've filled so far is my disco and it seemed like it was just under a minute to fill
I guess I should say was up and running.. now trying to fill a tank.. runs for 15 secs at most then shuts itself off
If it's tripping your house breaker please DON'T do as he has recommended on another forum and just swap out your breaker for a 30amp without a complete rewire with 10ga.
I guess I should say was up and running.. now trying to fill a tank.. runs for 15 secs at most then shuts itself off
does anybody have one running with all of the upgrades yet ?
Dick
yes mine is up and running and it is fast.. all i've filled so far is my disco and it seemed like it was just under a minute to fill
I guess I should say was up and running.. now trying to fill a tank.. runs for 15 secs at most then shuts itself off
If it's tripping your house breaker please DON'T do as he has recommended on another forum and just swap out your breaker for a 30amp without a complete rewire with 10ga.
Mine's blowing out air somewhere (other than the fill tube). Still messing with it.
I paid for mine 2-3-16 and it was on my door 2-9-16. Mine was beat bad by USPS dings I can deal with but I have some missing parts, poor oil and it didn't fill the case, a broken wire, and the worst is the desiccant is packed with grease. I'm going to buy the missing fittings and replace the desiccant this week. I will let you know how it works for me.
I paid for mine 2-3-16 and it was on my door 2-9-16. Mine was beat bad by USPS dings I can deal with but I have some missing parts, poor oil and it didn't fill the case, a broken wire, and the worst is the desiccant is packed with grease. I'm going to buy the missing fittings and replace the desiccant this week. I will let you know how it works for me.
(http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=98950.0;attach=150029;image)
No that is not the intake that is what feeds the gun. it is PACKED! i have to pull it all apart, clean and replace.
I paid for mine 2-3-16 and it was on my door 2-9-16. Mine was beat bad by USPS dings I can deal with but I have some missing parts, poor oil and it didn't fill the case, a broken wire, and the worst is the desiccant is packed with grease. I'm going to buy the missing fittings and replace the desiccant this week. I will let you know how it works for me.
[Sounds like a shipping claim?]
No that is not the intake that is what feeds the gun. it is PACKED! i have to pull it all apart, clean and replace.
WOW - I hope you didn't have that hooked to your gun. If so I would not shoot it until you clean the grease from it as that sure looks like it's petroleum based.
First thing you need to do is find out where it is coming from.
Also if you are just replacing those beads in the alum block (on the output side) you may want to read the following sticky post about the dangers involved
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=104162.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=104162.0)
I paid for mine 2-3-16 and it was on my door 2-9-16. Mine was beat bad by USPS dings I can deal with but I have some missing parts, poor oil and it didn't fill the case, a broken wire, and the worst is the desiccant is packed with grease. I'm going to buy the missing fittings and replace the desiccant this week. I will let you know how it works for me.
[Sounds like a shipping claim?]
Boxes looked beat but no holes missing parts are from mfg. as is the rest of the problems imo.
I just opened this from the box a few hours ago so it came from the mfg. the grease scares the &^^& out of me also! I disagree with the write up that desiccant doesn't work as I have used it in air compressors for 20 years to maintain dry systems in sprinklers. and very small tubes are still used in drypac air compressors to this day.
I just opened this from the box a few hours ago so it came from the mfg. the grease scares the &^^& out of me also! I disagree with the write up that desiccant doesn't work as I have used it in air compressors for 20 years to maintain dry systems in sprinklers. and very small tubes are still used in drypac air compressors to this day.
Glad you didn't hook it to your gun. I guess you can clean it all out, run it, and then check it again.
In referencing to Joe saying it "doesn't work"......are your sprinkler systems running at 4500PSI? He did note that they don't work at "High Pressure". I agree they work just fine for shop compressors and such running under 200psi.
I paid for mine 2-3-16 and it was on my door 2-9-16. Mine was beat bad by USPS dings I can deal with but I have some missing parts, poor oil and it didn't fill the case, a broken wire, and the worst is the desiccant is packed with grease. I'm going to buy the missing fittings and replace the desiccant this week. I will let you know how it works for me.
[Sounds like a shipping claim?]
Boxes looked beat but no holes missing parts are from mfg. as is the rest of the problems imo.
[Sorry to hear yours arrived like that. Good luck. Others have reported loose components. Mine comes Thursday to Vegas, that's a lot of shipping miles... I have an extensive checklist to go thru before I fire it up! Hoping for best...]
Mike @ MrodAir
that was an easy thing to see from your youtube and has been done from the first day received
but you don't show anything connected which is the big problem, do you have one working with all the upgrades ?
i hope you will show all the connections in the new video you are doing
including how to get the brass fittings to work and which size hose goes where
Mounting to unit, tabs go between sheet metal and frame for a clean install.
Much more in our new video as soon as I can get it edited
Sorry you are miss reading that, here is his quote.
Simply running air through a cylinder with a filter element doesn't work well, and using loose packed beads doesn't work at all.
I post this as Safety Notice. I am reading in more than one instance where people are putting molecular seive into a bare aluminum housing for the purpose of filtration. This isn't just happening with filters, but now I see it being done with a particular compressor that has come to market.
This is wrong on so many levels, SAFETY & FUNCTION:
Please, don't mention particular brands. This is NOT about any particular product (Fllter or compressor). This IS about why not to loosely put molecular sieve into a filter tube (or similar).
To save time, I copied, edited to remove any brand information, and pasted this:
Function:
1) Moisture serparation works best at High Pressure. When filling a tank with an inline filter, ensure the filter has some kind of the proper valving mechanism to allow the pressure to build up (this changes the dew point), prior to flow through the filter. The pressure needs to be held back up inside the filter to a point, and then allowed to flow through the filter media. Also the filter media needs a "dwell time" as well as high pressure to work best. Simply running air through a cylinder with a filter element doesn't work well, and using loose packed beads doesn't work at all. Make sure the filter has the proper valving to allow pressure to build up before the air runs through it.
2) Filters require a place to let out the condensate. All filters have a condensate drain. If the filter is working, it should be collecting moisture and it needs to be let out immediately. Letting the condensate sit in the filter allows the moisture to saturate the filter media, rendering it useless in no time.
3) One can't just pack beads in a cylinder for 2 VERY important reasons.
A) It doesn't work because of "Channeling" : We'd all like to just make a filter that uses cheap beads packed in a cylinder, but the first issue is that without proper packing, "channeling" will occur between the media. Simply put, channeling is the situation where air just goes around the individual filter "beads" instead of being "scrubbed". In order to work, the media need to be properly "jam packed" into the a container element, and this filter element put in a filter tube. Filter elements are manufactured to be "jam packed". Putting the media into a tube doesn't pack it tight enough to prevent channeling at high pressures. Replacement filter elements are inexpensive, so it isn't an issue.
B) Most importantly SAFETY. NEVER make a high pressure filter where the filter material directly touches the cylinder walls of a high pressure filter. This is filter element 101. The moisture in filter media leaches acid, and hence must not come in direct contact with the filter tube. Acid that leaches out will eventually make it to the walls of the vessle and threads on the end-caps of the filter, weakening them, and eventually causing the high possibility of catastrophic failure. This point can't be stressed enough.
Points A) & B) are why every high pressure filter uses media that is jam-packed into either a plastic or stainless steel sleeve. So it works, and works SAFELY!
We would rather see you use no filter at all, and ruin an airgun, that use an unsafe product, and risk the dangers of doing so.
Hey Guys,
Some of these compressors, had oil in them when sent to us from the manufacturer.
Not all, but some did.
Then when they came to the US, some moron in shipping turned them upside down when loading from container to truck.
We ran every one, but did not change the dissicant on all of them. (Probably should have in hindsight)
Most likely where this is coming from and I'm sure not all are this way.
If we had not run them, then how exactly could this get into the seperator anyway ?
There is a poppet in the top of it, so it could not just run in there by itself.
Think about it.
As for moisture coming out of the bleeder, that's where it is supposed to drain moisture.
Having said that, some like dissicant, and some do not. This is for you to decide.
I myself am not a fan.
Some prefer molecular sieve material and some don't know it virtually the same, just a moderately better material for this use. Not a cure all, as some would have you believe. It is available in bulk just like the silica beads and in several grades online.
The small secondary unit, is to catch any residual that may pass thru the first, especially if you do not drain it regularly.
It seems the manufacturer of the secondary unit we included, sent o ring seals that do not seal well with the equipped hose fitting.
A M2 or number 6 machine washer (nylon) seals them very nicely.
Ever think you could be mistaken ?
We have been occasionally, but we always look at the issue and make an attempt to be productive.
Perhaps this is a good place to start.
Big tin boat,
The quote you are reading from above, is very specific. (A sales ad)
Dissicant, in this case is not in contact with any pressure wall of the moisture seperator.
It is inside a separate cartridge inside another housing of its own and protected from reversal into the system, by a one way poppet or anti reversing valve on top of the inner cartridge.
You can research dissicant and/or molecular sieve material and review the MSDS ect online yourself.
The fact that is is approved for food storage should tell you quite a bit alone.
Some would have you believe it leaches acid so strong, it will eat metal ?
Yet it is safe for packing food and pharmaceuticals taken by not only adults, but infants ?
This has much more to do with the properties of aluminum and moreover, the specific alloy of aluminum used in the manufacture of certain pressure vessels.
further if the specific aluminum alloy has been coated, tempered, or surface treated there can be completely different properties to consider.
Then of course is the tightly packed theory. (Actually seems logical)
But then of course you must look at surface area.
Have you looked at commercially manufactured HPA filter cartridges ?
Perhaps you should.
Sure looks like beads in a plastic tube, not "jam packed", just in a tube. (No magic)
Most of those, regardless of brand or seller, are contained in .....yep aluminum.
There are quotes and then there is "leading" based on biased information.
Look at the facts and please understand.
We are not here to argue any point brother.
We are here to help you understand what you are reading and how it differs from what you are attempting to apply the reading material to.
If your concern is about materials, or properties of them, choosing quotes from someone attempting to sell you something, (or talk you out of something) may not be the most accurate way to start your research.
So mine might have oil in the cylinder? How will I know if I don't take it apart? Please provide video how to check. Why wasn't this done when you were testing it?
and your reply:
Tbear,
You are reading something into this brother.
They were checked and tested every one no exceptions.
Big tin boat,
There is no blame in our statement.
We have made an attempt to assist you with your compressor, however you seem to have this all figured out in advance.
In a perfect world, I suppose many of these issues would not, well be an issue.
We will continue to support our product and offer assistance to our customers as always.
At this point, it is obvious this is not what you among others are here to do and we have no intention of batting back and forth with this type of conjecture.
For those who would actually like to receive assistance, you can contact us directly or review our videos and updates as they are posted.
Thank you
For those who would actually like to receive assistance, you can contact us directly or review our videos and updates as they are posted.
Thank you
Big tin boat,
There is no blame in our statement.
Big tin boat,
There is no blame in our statement.
We have made an attempt to assist you with your compressor, however you seem to have this all figured out in advance.
In a perfect world, I suppose many of these issues would not, well be an issue.
We will continue to support our product and offer assistance to our customers as always.
At this point, it is obvious this is not what you among others are here to do and we have no intention of batting back and forth with this type of conjecture.
For those who would actually like to receive assistance, you can contact us directly or review our videos and updates as they are posted.
Thank you
I emailed you pics abd asked a few questions I have not gotten a reply yet.
I have received my unit and it did not have any oil contamination issues. The unit was drained with separate oil container. The contactor and shutoff relay socket (no relay in socket) had popped loose from the snap-in relay mounting bracket, but snap-in mounts will do that for any impact. Overall it looked pretty good in regards to shipping. I did not receive the cooling package yet. The intake port is about 5/16 inch, slip type (no threads) so intake filter/muffler is in question. I was not able to test unit at this point but will post again soon.
mrodair.com airmax_extreme_4500_psi_high_speed
I have received my unit and it did not have any oil contamination issues. The unit was drained with separate oil container. The contactor and shutoff relay socket (no relay in socket) had popped loose from the snap-in relay mounting bracket, but snap-in mounts will do that for any impact. Overall it looked pretty good in regards to shipping. I did not receive the cooling package yet. The intake port is about 5/16 inch, slip type (no threads) so intake filter/muffler is in question. I was not able to test unit at this point but will post again soon.
mrodair.com airmax_extreme_4500_psi_high_speed
did you open the output where the desiccant is? remember this anything in that will be pumped into you gun.
I have received my unit and it did not have any oil contamination issues. The unit was drained with separate oil container. The contactor and shutoff relay socket (no relay in socket) had popped loose from the snap-in relay mounting bracket, but snap-in mounts will do that for any impact. Overall it looked pretty good in regards to shipping. I did not receive the cooling package yet. The intake port is about 5/16 inch, slip type (no threads) so intake filter/muffler is in question. I was not able to test unit at this point but will post again soon.
mrodair.com airmax_extreme_4500_psi_high_speed
did you open the output where the desiccant is? remember this anything in that will be pumped into you gun.
Sorry about posting errors, new to this.
Yes, I was very thorough in checking hoses, poppets, desiccant container. All looked very good.
did you open the output where the desiccant is? remember this anything in that will be pumped into you gun.
I want to know the best way to drain the oil and what oil I should replace it with.. just something i do with my new motors?
Sounds like a lot of problems for a $1000 ???+1
Air compressors are high maintenence, no matter what brand they are. Think about it, they compress air to 4500 psi. That is a hard life folks.
And your shoe box takes how long to fill a scuba tank? Different animal all together. I agree, shoe box compressors are lower maint, but the speed is the difference. If you have time to wait for them. Also, don't you need a regular compressor as the "first stage" in order to use it? If so, then you need to factor in the price of that compressor as well, putting the price point higher for that system. To each their own, I fill at a local dive shop because I don't want to deal with the maint of compressors.
I will never ever own another shoebox again ever. Nothing but problems for me and slow as a snail. If Mike sets up his compressors like I did mine there will be no problems and this thing fills fast REAL fast. I'd have no qualms about getting another one knowing what I know now.
I saw a used shoebox advertised for $900! You fellows have bought one at bargain basement prices apparently. I get advertisement pop ups when on the net that show them starting at $700. It is my understanding that a significant dryer setup is required.
Never posted about my 2 shoeboxes my friends know how much trouble ive had with both of them I almost body slammed my MAX onto the shop floor I was so perturbed at it.
Run the compressor for 5 hours on included oil. This is break in oil then change to this oil. http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Purple-Performance-Synthetic-Compressor/dp/B004PL9BVY/ref=pd_sim_469_6?ie=UTF8&dpID=41NBcxjetzL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=07GRFWZ8DJ0CPJ81JY8F (http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Purple-Performance-Synthetic-Compressor/dp/B004PL9BVY/ref=pd_sim_469_6?ie=UTF8&dpID=41NBcxjetzL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=07GRFWZ8DJ0CPJ81JY8F)
If Mike sets up his compressors like i did mine there will be no problems
Just needs a little TLC and its the best bang for the buck no doubt.
see this
http://airgunguild.com/index.php/topic,15.msg1594.html#msg1594 (http://airgunguild.com/index.php/topic,15.msg1594.html#msg1594)
you knew the water pump was a POS ?
i finally hooked everything up and MR Murphy was here again
Pump LEAK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOmM-g-Tkg[
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOmM-g-Tkg)
you knew the water pump was a POS ?
i finally hooked everything up and MR Murphy was here again
Pump LEAK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOmM-g-Tkg[
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFOmM-g-Tkg)
Is this cooling system the $395 upgrade?
Toss that stock pump and get the Amazon pump and do the fittings mod. Youll have a worry free system.JMHO
Toss that stock pump and get the Amazon pump and do the fittings mod. Youll have a worry free system.JMHO
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013JPXNLA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013JPXNLA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00)
or just do the simpler thing & put ice into the water container a couple minutes before filling
go to any plumbing supply house and get a 50ft roll of 1/2: copper tubing set in a 5 gallon bucket of cold water circulate your cooling fluid through the copper coil and you have an inexpensive heat exchanger set up that will work
go to any plumbing supply house and get a 50ft roll of 1/2: copper tubing set in a 5 gallon bucket of cold water circulate your cooling fluid through the copper coil and you have an inexpensive heat exchanger set up that will workI would run a Glycol mix to protect the compressor and you could even just run a fan over copper coils and would do the trick
go to any plumbing supply house and get a 50ft roll of 1/2: copper tubing set in a 5 gallon bucket of cold water circulate your cooling fluid through the copper coil and you have an inexpensive heat exchanger set up that will work
For almost 70 I think I should be allowed a belly shot now and then but if it is too hard on the eyes I will see what I can do :P :P ;Dgo to any plumbing supply house and get a 50ft roll of 1/2: copper tubing set in a 5 gallon bucket of cold water circulate your cooling fluid through the copper coil and you have an inexpensive heat exchanger set up that will work
Not sure HOW much cooling is needed, but overkill isn't necessarily a bad thing! Good ideas! And for goodness sake, put yer' shirt back on! :o
I want to buy a compressor but nobody answers the phone... :-\
I want to buy a compressor but nobody answers the phone... :-\
I want to buy a compressor but nobody answers the phone... :-\
Mrodair.com, follow links with credit card, very easy...
You're right. I followed several forums for information on the unit, but that was not the best way to make that purchade... For me, I was so frustrated with 3800 psi tank fills + driving. There was ( is?) a learning curve with the compressor but if it holds up long term, it will be well worth the expense.
Is there a warranty of any type with this unit?
All quiet on the western frontier........ Either evryones busy working on them, or having a blast playing with them.... Which is it???
The compressor is very fast and fills my 98 CF tank from 3000 psi to 4700 PSI in 20 minutes. My empty 48 CI tank in about 3 minutes.
about 30 minutes to charge both to 4500 from 2700 psi,but only cost 8.00 dollar,s total,take a whole lot of me getting them filled to to match the price of the compressor;and the scuba shop is 10 minutes away
I filled my 80 cf scuba tank from 0 to 3000 psiin about at mins. Air smelled but no other problem . Other than my mistakes.
I filled my 80 cf scuba tank from 0 to 3000 psiin about at mins. Air smelled but no other problem . Other than my mistakes.
Can you please clarify the mins.?
Joe
Hi guy's,
I found this forum last night looking for more info on this compressor. I received mine about a week ago in a timely fashion. There were a few hiccups, but they weren't a big deal for me. I didn't spring for the upgrade package because I like to tinker.
The first time I used it I filled a 90/4500 empty Ninja bottle in about twelve minutes. I used a 5 gallon bucket of tap water with no radiator. The room was about 68 F. The water was probably around 50 F. The compressor temperature leveled out at 43 C if memory serves.
I made some YouTube video's you can find on my channel about this compressor. I see I am not allowed to post external links. I'm not promoting this product so if you are curious my channel is Mason Dawson. I'm the guy wearing overalls. I hope I am not overstepping my bounds.
All I can figure is that it was upside down in transit with oil in the crank case. It must have come out of the air intake on top of the low pressure cylinder. After I wiped everything down I filled two bottles. I wiped it down again, and let it sit over night to see if it was leaking anywhere. Nothing appears to be leaking. It didn't come with any oil to fill it so I bought some Porter Cable synthetic blend air compressor oil to break it in with. I guess I will stick with that oil unless I am told different.
I filled my 80 cf scuba tank from 0 to 3000 psiin about at mins. Air smelled but no other problem . Other than my mistakes.
Can you please clarify the mins.?
Joe
I filled my 80 cf scuba tank from 0 to 3000 psi in about at 25 mins. Air smelled but no other problem . Other than my mistakes.
I filled my 80 cf scuba tank from 0 to 3000 psiin about at mins. Air smelled but no other problem . Other than my mistakes.
Can you please clarify the mins.?
Joe
Sorry posted from my tablet and went to bed.. fixed it now
I saw a video where someone made a dryer for their blue unit from Ali. I really want to do something similar to stop the moisture before it enters the compressor. Without tearing it down it looks like the intake is not threaded. I was trying to think of something I can attach using the head bolts that would be easy to change the desiccant out of. I really don't want to break the gasket on a brand new unit to see if I can thread it. I have something simple in mind. I will post if it pans out.
I haven't checked for leaks other than with my hand yet. I didn't feel anything that would warrant the discrepancy. I will just have to fill my 88, and post those results. My standard gauge has some glycerin in it, but could use a topping off.
I'm posting my results for the same reason. I haven't even had mine long enough to use my cooling setup.
anyone have a us supplier for rubber molded steel washers?
where can I find the round filters?
anyone have a us supplier for rubber molded steel washers?
Are you referring to a dowdy washer or seal? I've also seen it spelled dowty and they are sometimes also called bonded seal washers. Not sure of a source.
I like to look at ebay for stuff like this due to the high shipping costs of regular retailers
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=Dowty+washers+&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=Dowty+washers+&_sacat=0)
To be honest, I would not normally pass on 2nd hand info, but this is my Father in Law's take on his Airmax compressor and I figured it may be helpful. It was leaking oil so badly it would have never run for a whole fill. It required a complete rebuild prior to operating it. He did thread the intake for a filter which he says worked fine (1/4" NPT). After the rebuild he describes it as a "slick little compressor". Keep in mind he owned and operated an air compressor business in S. CA for 40 years and may have more abilities in this realm than the average bear. He attempted to contact MRod to no avail. Hope this helps!!
I filled my 80 cf scuba tank from 0 to 3000 psi in about at 25 mins. Air smelled but no other problem . Other than my mistakes.
WOW - that's 3.2CFM. So 2 guys have reported 3.2CFM fill rates and all the others seem like they are in the 1-1.2CFM. The disparity between the fill rates seems a bit odd, I wonder why?
To be honest, I would not normally pass on 2nd hand info, but this is my Father in Law's take on his Airmax compressor and I figured it may be helpful. It was leaking oil so badly it would have never run for a whole fill. It required a complete rebuild prior to operating it. He did thread the intake for a filter which he says worked fine (1/4" NPT). After the rebuild he describes it as a "slick little compressor". Keep in mind he owned and operated an air compressor business in S. CA for 40 years and may have more abilities in this realm than the average bear. He attempted to contact MRod to no avail. Hope this helps!!
To be honest, I would not normally pass on 2nd hand info, but this is my Father in Law's take on his Airmax compressor and I figured it may be helpful. It was leaking oil so badly it would have never run for a whole fill. It required a complete rebuild prior to operating it. He did thread the intake for a filter which he says worked fine (1/4" NPT). After the rebuild he describes it as a "slick little compressor". Keep in mind he owned and operated an air compressor business in S. CA for 40 years and may have more abilities in this realm than the average bear. He attempted to contact MRod to no avail. Hope this helps!!
Yeah I would stay as far as possible from this vendor.
Charged a customer 15% restocking fee when he returned his compressor that he never got to work.
Go over to the TAG forum. There is a whole bunch of info. One guy has went thru it and documented it all with picks and what to fix.
I'm pronouncing the machine. While I can get it and running (again), I don't think I'm putting in any more effort on this compressor.
The Great White filling trial uncovered enough issues that I won't be using the compressor for filling a gun let alone a tank.
Far too much oil gets pushed through the air. While the water separator followed by JB's air filter clears it out, it's simply too much for me to tolerate. I had to vent the garage because each venting cycle was filing the air with suspended oil. There is nothing II can do to the machine to stop this from happening.
Speed was great. Took about 80 minutes to reach 4100 in the Great White. That is with bleeding the separator and JB filter every 4-5 minutes at beginning. Every three or so near end.
Had dramatic filling of air into water cooling system when 4100 psi was reached. The o-ring separating the high pressure cylinder from the water jacket had blown out. That ring is right around the high pressure inlet wafer valve. Mechanically, I don't like that type of seal in such a high temperature and pressure location. It's going to be prone to repeated failure even if I replace the o-ring.
Lot of carbon buildup on the high pressure rings even with just 80 minutes of run time.
Air in tank post the JB filter is without odor of oil and no water vapor release with venting in inverted position. The JB dryer goes its job!
I started this experiment knowing it might not work out. I'm lucky that I can scrap the machine and move on.
I did the experiment, so you don't have to.
Yes, I still think it can fill just a gun, but I would not be relying on this for repeated filling of big tanks.
Filtering works for improving its final air quality, but you have to vent during filling to bleed out moisture. That aerosolizes a lot of oil with each bleed. I can get the compressor running, but like I said, I can't stop it from putting out all that oil mist.
Because of this issue, I'm not going to get it up and running again for just filling my Vulcan.
I want to be able to breath the air in my garage and I doubt the suspended oil vapor is good for my health.
Guy
Sounds like this compressor is worthless. Never buying anything from Mrod.
Where has Micheal been on all these threads about this compressor? ???
Seem's to me he should stop all sales and take care of the previous customers that got the shaft! .
Go over to the TAG forum. There is a whole bunch of info. One guy has went thru it and documented it all with picks and what to fix.
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April 23 2016, 9:17 AM
Pretty simple.
Two or three places to check and we have parts on the shelf if any are needed.
By now, you have run it enough to know how well it works.
No need to tear into the unit as some have, as this can not only lead to other problems, but will also make the
diagnosis much more difficult.
We are here to help.
Well after going over it the gasket was blown on the low side and the rtv on the low side water cover was bad. I replaced with hi temp rtv and let sit over night. I replaced the bad ware rings on the high side and this thing pumps like new again.
Still have water/oil at separator so with the Tiger Shark tank I am cleaning and changing desiccant about every 1k psi. This is mainly due to the fact I am trying to make the paper filters last, and this way I am not getting anything thru the system to the tank. Proof of this is the paper filter in still white.
So all i need a good supply of ware rings, rtv, and paper filters.
Well after going over it the gasket was blown on the low side and the rtv on the low side water cover was bad. I replaced with hi temp rtv and let sit over night. I replaced the bad ware rings on the high side and this thing pumps like new again.
Still have water/oil at separator so with the Tiger Shark tank I am cleaning and changing desiccant about every 1k psi. This is mainly due to the fact I am trying to make the paper filters last, and this way I am not getting anything thru the system to the tank. Proof of this is the paper filter in still white.
So all i need a good supply of ware rings, rtv, and paper filters.
Glad you got it working, let us know what happens in 2 weeks......
Well after going over it the gasket was blown on the low side and the rtv on the low side water cover was bad. I replaced with hi temp rtv and let sit over night. I replaced the bad ware rings on the high side and this thing pumps like new again.
Still have water/oil at separator so with the Tiger Shark tank I am cleaning and changing desiccant about every 1k psi. This is mainly due to the fact I am trying to make the paper filters last, and this way I am not getting anything thru the system to the tank. Proof of this is the paper filter in still white.
So all i need a good supply of ware rings, rtv, and paper filters.
Glad you got it working, let us know what happens in 2 weeks......
That's an easy one... another rebuild..
I for one had an idea of what this unit was, I have bought and repaired Chinese motors before. The idea isn't too rebuild every 2 hours it's too find better parts that last and make this unit better. That's what the forum is for, not bashing guys that bought this thing so let's keep it productive please.
If you have the 6 to 10k to spend on a bullet proof compressor then good for you. Most of us don't.
So far the new RTV gaskets are holding up great. Still have water/OIL leakage but if you can control that with filters it's just time, and still less time then using a shoe box.
I would not buy from Mrodair again but I would pick up another unit if I could at the 600 price direct. We have a company an hour away that makes these type of ware rings and other seals so once I find the sizes I will be testing other rings.
Brian If you can find a ring solution this little guy will be a great deal but until then its just not ready for the market place as I see it. Ive been trying to fiqure out a ring solution in my head and Its not happening due to the width of the ring lands. Without remaking the piston itself I dont see anyway to make it work.
I'm BASHING the crook selling these to unsuspecting buyers.Rule 13.... anyone else see a problem here?....
Been addressedQuoteI'm BASHING the crook selling these to unsuspecting buyers.Rule 13.... anyone else see a problem here?....
I would never buy one of there compressors.... but do we really need this type of behaviour here?....
Bob
QuoteI'm BASHING the crook selling these to unsuspecting buyers.Rule 13.... anyone else see a problem here?....
I would never buy one of there compressors.... but do we really need this type of behaviour here?....
Bob
What material is the high pressure cylinder made of? Steel? If it is in fact steel, then just make new rings, nothing difficult to do if one has a lathe. Try different materials, steel, crmo, or different polymers, teflon...or just buy one of the Bauer,s or coltri,and be done with it.is the way i am going soon,sometimes you don't even get what you pay for,sad but true,but it all comes out in the wash eventually ,
And add intercooler between the stages to get the heat down.
The big boys use intercooling between stages for a reason, Bauer, coltri, you name it. Look at there compressors and ask why is that part there, and implement that to your existing china exports.