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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: NHGuide on August 22, 2015, 10:12:52 PM
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I was able to find a Coyote in .25 ! :D it is in my basement all boxed up, but within the next month or so ( sorry, I am working realllly long hours) I will let you all know what my impressions are of this fine rifle....so far it looks very nice.
Essentially a BSA Buccaneer and in .25 cal., it will likely have a bit loud report 'out of the box'. It comes with a fill probe, and upon first blush seems very well built. The wood on my rifle has nice figure, though clearly not a showpiece, and the overall quality of metal to metal and wood fit is on par with any of my 'high end' rifles either from Germany or elsewhere.
Of note is that my air tube showed nearly 200 BAR on the meter ! Not one to question the wisdom of shipping it like that, I just accepted the rifle and will watch the needle over the next few days to watch for any dropping...though where I picked it up had this special order for "at least a week"<according to them...and I know THEY didn't fill it.
At the moment all I have are some Benjamin pellets, but I suspect I will be ordering various brands and weights in the coming months to experiment with. For the time being, though, the Benjamin pellets will be the first thrown out the tube as I run this rifle for initial tests and setting up.
I am looking forward to a full autumn of tweaking and fine-tuning and, as I have the time, I will let you all know how this adventure plays out.
I must apologize in advance for the modified cell phone picture...I didn't want to show the serial number and the original image was nearly 2.8 megabytes.
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Any pictures of the rest of the rifle? I have never owned a Gamo (I know zilch about them).
Scary any manufacturer, distributor, or end seller would fill a PCP and ship it under pressure.
I have to ask.....why cover the serial number?
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Sounds like a nice find, and please post us some more pics.
Casey
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covering the serial number is just my own personal thing... no agenda...I don't like advertising those things.
I will post more pictures soon, but truly...it looks exactly like what you will see on the Gamo Website and in the BassProShops catalog
http://www.gamousa.com/product.aspx?productID=536 (http://www.gamousa.com/product.aspx?productID=536)
http://www.basspro.com/Gamo-Coyote-PCP-22-Caliber-Air-Rifle/product/1503231741/ (http://www.basspro.com/Gamo-Coyote-PCP-22-Caliber-Air-Rifle/product/1503231741/)
... only in .25 caliber.
I am not sure WHY it was shipped under pressure, but it seems to have made it to me in nice shape. I have every reason to believe it was shipped via truck from Missouri...beyond that, I do not know.
I will post more when I have the opportunity
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Any pictures of the rest of the rifle? I have never owned a Gamo (I know zilch about them).
Scary any manufacturer, distributor, or end seller would fill a PCP and ship it under pressure.
I have to ask.....why cover the serial number?
Every single pcp I have bought from PA and Airgun depot had pressure in them.
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Any pictures of the rest of the rifle? I have never owned a Gamo (I know zilch about them).
Scary any manufacturer, distributor, or end seller would fill a PCP and ship it under pressure.
I have to ask.....why cover the serial number?
Every single pcp I have bought from PA and Airgun depot had pressure in them.
Now Im trying to think if mine came with pressure in them. Still seems dangerous to me.
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From what I understand, all PCPs are supposed to be stored with some air in them, not empty. Just like you should pump a pumper like the Benjamin 392/397 a few times before storing it.
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My Discovery came with 1000 psi in the tube.
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Probably doesn't mean anything, but I bought two Disco's before getting a good one. The first came from AG with 1,000psi on the gauge. I called AG about the other, unrelated issues I was having and they said they never ship guns with pressure in them...
Sent that one back to AG for replacement. Second gun came with no pressure, but also with a sticky fill valve. Returned that one too.
Third and final Disco, I ordered from Discos-R-Us. As Norm had pressure tested and test fired the gun before shipping, it had pressure in it, but I don't recall how much.
One thing I'd be concerned about in shipping a fully charged air gun. I once filled my Disco to 2,000 psi per the gun's gauge. I took it outside to shoot, then got a phone call. Left the gun sitting in the sun for about 15 minutes and when I returned, it was hot to the touch. The gauge was way into the red. I know better from using scuba tanks. It was a foolish mistake.
My point is, shipping a fully charged pcp could be an issue if it's left in a hot delivery truck over time. Half charged, probably not an issue.
Just my opinion.
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Any pictures of the rest of the rifle? I have never owned a Gamo (I know zilch about them).
Scary any manufacturer, distributor, or end seller would fill a PCP and ship it under pressure.
I have to ask.....why cover the serial number?
Every single pcp I have bought from PA and Airgun depot had pressure in them.
Correct, maybe not 200 BAR but always 100 BAR minimum.
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I paid for the 10 for 10 from PA for my .22 synrod, it was shipped with about 1800psi. Ernest recently tuned my new cricket rifle and shipped it to me with about 150 bar
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From my understanding, air is needed to keep internals Sealed of dust/moister and to preserve o-rings
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All, I understand the reason for having air in the tubes.... and I agree. That wasn't what I wanted this post to be about. I just was surprised to see as much air as was in it. Would I have shipped it that way? I don't know but I am not going to go further with that since I am no expert in the matter...I only made an observation.
SO. beyond that, I am finding that the build of this rifle is above what I expected. The wood fit, and the metalwork look very much on par with any other rifle that I own. Perhaps a touch less fancy than my HW-77 as far as the metalwork, but quite nice. BSA/Gamo did a fine job.
I was just too curious about the rifle to let it sit, so when I had five minutes I loaded three pellets in the magazine and sans scope...stepped out of my sun porch, lined up the barrel as best as I could to the embankment and fired. Not as loud as I expected, but certainly similar to a .22 short fired from a revolver. This would be 'backyard friendly' in MY yard but not for most people, I suspect. The second and third shots were about paying attention to the cocking and trigger quality.
Now this is Brand New, so I expect a little 'newness' in terms of being rough. That said, the cocking effort seemed as though the bolt was either binding or very tightly fitted as I drew it back to cock. The return trip to push a pellet into the bore was smooth and effortless. I'll have to look for wear-lines when I first take it apart...in case there are any tight spots that I can eradicate.
Shot number one saw just to see what the sound was like, as I said, and then I paid more attention to the trigger.
I am picky about triggers. As a reference, I like a very small and short amount of creep and a very crisp release, and I like it a little light. I set a lot of my PBs at 2 1/2 lbs for hunting. Most of my air rifles are set at about that and less, and they are virtually all crisp. I judge a lot of the Airgun triggers I have by how they compare to my Diana 75ST01 and my HW-77.
To be expected, I suppose, this trigger is set a bit on the tough side...akin to pushing a thumbtack into an oak board... solid and steady but set pretty high. There was about 1/8th inch of first stage travel and then the brick wall. I will say that the brick wall broke pretty cleanly, even as hard as it is set.
After I de-gas this rifle, and clean it in a proper fashion, one of my first tweaks will be the trigger adjustment. both first and second stages are adjustable and the screws look to be easy to get at. It's actually not a bad trigger, I think, just factory set for Andre the Giant.
The brass fill probe that was zip-lock bagged in the box, had four extra O-rings packed in as well as a small tube of grease. not having used a fill-probe style before this, it makes me wonder how often these little O-rings get chewed up. Maybe I should buy a small jar of them just in case :-)
So for the first three "I just HAVE to shoot this thing" shots, the one thing I did NOT get was disappointed. I think I'm going to really like this rifle and I look forward to tweaking, shooting and getting to know it a lot better before the year is out.
As time permits, I'll update this with any developments.