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Support Equipment For PCP/HPA/CO2 and springers ,rams => Optics, Range estimation & related subjects => Topic started by: smack6969 on August 10, 2015, 01:44:39 PM
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Hello,
I just discovered several FFP scopes in the $250.00 range.
BSA and Primary Arms are both offering a models.
I wonder if they can handle the abuse of a springer.
Any thoughts or observations would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Shawn
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No, don't mount an FFP scope on a springer unless it is airgun rated. I don't know of any FFp spring/airgun rated rifle scopes.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/456482/bsa-tactical-mil-mil-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-4-14x-44mm-side-focus-1-10-mil-adjustments-first-focal-mrad-reticle-matte (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/456482/bsa-tactical-mil-mil-rifle-scope-30mm-tube-4-14x-44mm-side-focus-1-10-mil-adjustments-first-focal-mrad-reticle-matte) Down at the bottom of the Technical information column: Airgun Rated: No
Just too expensive for me to take such a chance, knowing it will be damaged or destroyed.
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there are shock proof ffp scopes out there, but will likely cost you a grand or more.
I have that bsa you mentioned, and everytime it gets bumped hard, i.e. I let the gun fall over. it has to be re zeroed. so it definitely wont hold up on a springer
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There are shock proof ffp scopes out there, but will likely cost you a grand or more.
Shock proof and Springer/airgun rating are not the same, shock proof won't hold up to a spring gun's reverse recoil! ;)
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ah, well I have never seen a scope that was labled as "airgun rated" before then. I have seen shock proof scopes though that can hold up on a springer.
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BSA 3-14x44 FFP .... No way !!
Not only that this scope has a VERY limited range in elevation NOT being able to deal with any droop present.
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ah, well I have never seen a scope that was labled as "airgun rated" before then. I have seen shock proof scopes though that can hold up on a springer.
Here we go, whole page of AiRGUN rated rifle scopes: http://www.clearidgeoptics.com/ultra-rm-s/1814.htm (http://www.clearidgeoptics.com/ultra-rm-s/1814.htm)
and http://www.weaveroptics.com/optics/riflescopes/classic_rimfire/ (http://www.weaveroptics.com/optics/riflescopes/classic_rimfire/)
Looked at Leapers homepage also couldn't find anything stating airgun/springer rating, I'm shocked! :o
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]Any Leapers/UTG scopes built on the True Strength platform are springer rated.
Here's one you might like. Even comes with rings.
http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?mitem=optic&level1=Etched_Glass_Reticle&level2=&itemno=SCP3-UG4165AOIEW&status=&mtrack=4m (http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?mitem=optic&level1=Etched_Glass_Reticle&level2=&itemno=SCP3-UG4165AOIEW&status=&mtrack=4m)
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]Any Leapers/UTG scopes built on the True Strength platform are springer rated.
Here's one you might like. Even comes with rings.
http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?mitem=optic&level1=Etched_Glass_Reticle&level2=&itemno=SCP3-UG4165AOIEW&status=&mtrack=4m (http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?mitem=optic&level1=Etched_Glass_Reticle&level2=&itemno=SCP3-UG4165AOIEW&status=&mtrack=4m)
Yep, I read that too, still don't see 'spring/air gun rated' am I missing something? Oops now I see! ??? Thanks.
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I have Primary Arms 4-14X44 Mil Mil FFP Scope on my x200 and after a week of shooting it is fine knowing a week does not tell you much.
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I have Primary Arms 4-14X44 Mil Mil FFP Scope on my x200 and after a week of shooting it is fine knowing a week does not tell you much.
Just got off the phone with 'Mike' at Primary arms. He stated that the 4-14x FFP model is "Spring gun Rated" and will stand up to any spring gun recoil. So now we do have at least one Spring gun rated FFp rifle scope. :)
Please follow up on your results on the x200 as I may consider one for RWS 34....?
I also ask what 'Shock Proof as per advertised' was and 'Mike's answer was...." The 4-14x FFp model could safely handle calibers up to .308 powder burners.....?" ???
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There are lower priced FFP scopes available that are supposedly springer rated but the only one I'd be willing to risk is a SWFA. Can be bought for less as a "Demo". Just take a look at their "Sample List", or better yet, subscribe to it. One of my brother's bought a demo Leupold rangefinder from SWFA that was listed as "Demo B" & he said it was like brand new. YMMV.
Or you can try to find a used one on eBay. Sometimes some great deals. Just be sure there seller has a good rating & is willing to accept returns. But 1st explicitly ask if the scope is airgun rated. Some manufacturers have a lifetime, no questions asked, warranty on their higher end scopes (Bushnell? & Leupold?) but you'd have to find out if the warranty is transferable.
Good luck.