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Support Equipment For PCP/HPA/CO2 and springers ,rams => Optics, Range estimation & related subjects => Topic started by: pepegraves on July 23, 2015, 12:18:21 AM
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IDK if this is a scope problem to the community but, it is for me...I tried 2 different scopes and both of the elevation dials hAd to be maxxed out and it was still shooting 3 to 4 inches low. Anyone had this problem? Got a solution?
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You don't state whether the gun new or used. You don't give the distance, either.
It is not good to run scopes near the limit. Take the scope back to optical zero.
Are you sure you have adequate pressure and no leaks?
Next decide what to do with the gun. You can return it on warranty, bend the barrel, or get droop adjustable scope mounts. I ended up with droop mounts. Bending the barrel is an option I haven't gotten serious about yet. The site library even shows how to make a tool to do it. It's a pretty common practice.
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Good luck whichever way you go.
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You should also check out the FX No-Limit Mounts, I don't have them but would like to.
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I use the FX no limit mounts which work great. You can raise the back mount to get your POI on target. You only need to raise it a very little bit to achieve your results.
I would recommend putting your scope back to the middle of the adjustments where it is the most accurate and then make the changes to the rear mount.
If you do not want to spend the 80 bucks or so from air guns of arizona for the FX mounts, you can also use electrical tape on the bottom section of your back mount. A couple of layers of tape can be enough to raise the scope up in the rear. Do not over do it. You can bend your scope if try to change the angle too much. The proper way is to use adjustable rings.
The other thing is what pellets you are using. I own that gun and I am familiar with the drop. If you are using too heavy of bullet it may be you are just lobbing the bullet out the barrel. If you are using 125 grain or lower is should be no problem to get a scope to align with the bullet.
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The Recluse was lightly used and is still under warranty..I'd rather not send it out for repair...The distance shot is a mere 20 yds and 127gr max bullets so far..I used JSB 81 gr, some 108, 110, 115 gr..all do the same thing...I have a set of dovetail sights that have a STOP PIN ...Will that stop pin help raise the mount?
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Don't think those rings will do the trick. If your two sets of rings vary in a bit in height you could try putting the taller one in the rear and see how it does.
I doubt anything wrong with the gun. You could use a chronogragh if you have access to one. As long as your speed is ok no reason drop would be a problem.
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I had a one piece mount with rings like that. I found the adjustment scews stripped easily and did not hold well. I had them mounted on my springer, they might hold better on a pcp.
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Make sure the scope is clearing the rear sight,I had to remove mine,I use 50mm scope on one,44mm on the other Sam yang,but all my scopes work perfect,hope you get this fixed,note the 360 round balls are really a good round for those guns
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adjustable mount like that will fix the problem. I bought those mounts and one of the screws stripped while installing. It is made very cheap. The FX are way more expensive but made way better...
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Your least expensive option may be the adjustable rings from Sun Optics USA (http://sunopticsusa.com/ (http://sunopticsusa.com/)). Their Weaver mounts only come in medium height. The dovetails may be had in one or two piece in three different heights.
The material is pretty soft aluminum and prone to strip if not careful. The holes can be retapped for the next larger screw, though. Do NOT use Loctite on them. I've had them on my Nitro Venom for a couple of years. They look funky but they stay put.
I do not recommend tightening mounts on a scope if shimming them. You put the scope at an angle but the mounts are still square with the gun. They may crease the scope, distorting it.
If using Sun mounts, use care the adjusting screw on the front mount doesn't dig into the scope. Or you could bend the barrel and solve the whole problem.
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take off the ldc and see what it does then. ;D
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This is what I use and they work very well....
UTG Drooper Scope Rail, 11mm-to-Weaver Adapter, Compensates for Droop & Stops Scope Shift
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-drooper-scope-rail-11mm-to-weaver-adapter-compensates-for-droop?a=4191 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-drooper-scope-rail-11mm-to-weaver-adapter-compensates-for-droop?a=4191)
William
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This is what I use and they work very well....
UTG Drooper Scope Rail, 11mm-to-Weaver Adapter, Compensates for Droop & Stops Scope Shift
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-drooper-scope-rail-11mm-to-weaver-adapter-compensates-for-droop?a=4191 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-drooper-scope-rail-11mm-to-weaver-adapter-compensates-for-droop?a=4191)
William
That looks promising and not too expensive... THEY'RE ARE TWO MODELS...HOW DO I KNOW WHICH ONE IS FOR ME?
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adjustable mount like that will fix the problem. I bought those mounts and one of the screws stripped while installing. It is made very cheap. The FX are way more expensive but made way better...
I had a one piece mount with rings like that. I found the adjustment scews stripped easily and did not hold well. I had them mounted on my springer, they might hold better on a pcp.
Your least expensive option may be the adjustable rings from Sun Optics USA (http://sunopticsusa.com/ (http://sunopticsusa.com/)). Their Weaver mounts only come in medium height. The dovetails may be had in one or two piece in three different heights.
The material is pretty soft aluminum and prone to strip if not careful. The holes can be retapped for the next larger screw, though. Do NOT use Loctite on them. I've had them on my Nitro Venom for a couple of years. They look funky but they stay put.
I do not recommend tightening mounts on a scope if shimming them. You put the scope at an angle but the mounts are still square with the gun. They may crease the scope, distorting it.
If using Sun mounts, use care the adjusting screw on the front mount doesn't dig into the scope. Or you could bend the barrel and solve the whole problem.
It sounds like the Sun Optics are a weak alternative...
I use the FX no limit mounts which work great. You can raise the back mount to get your POI on target. You only need to raise it a very little bit to achieve your results.
I would recommend putting your scope back to the middle of the adjustments where it is the most accurate and then make the changes to the rear mount.
If you do not want to spend the 80 bucks or so from air guns of arizona for the FX mounts, you can also use electrical tape on the bottom section of your back mount. A couple of layers of tape can be enough to raise the scope up in the rear. Do not over do it. You can bend your scope if try to change the angle too much. The proper way is to use adjustable rings.
The other thing is what pellets you are using. I own that gun and I am familiar with the drop. If you are using too heavy of bullet it may be you are just lobbing the bullet out the barrel. If you are using 125 grain or lower is should be no problem to get a scope to align with the bullet.
The FX no limit or the UTG Drooper scope rail seem to be the way to go...I want to go for the UTG TO SAVE SOME MONEY....WHAT TO DO, WHAT TO DO ???
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My vote is the FX no limits mounts. The bonus with those mounts is you don't have to take your scope off to adjust your height.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSjnVjvtSbY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSjnVjvtSbY)
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This is what I use and they work very well....
UTG Drooper Scope Rail, 11mm-to-Weaver Adapter, Compensates for Droop & Stops Scope Shift
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-drooper-scope-rail-11mm-to-weaver-adapter-compensates-for-droop?a=4191 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/utg-drooper-scope-rail-11mm-to-weaver-adapter-compensates-for-droop?a=4191)
William
That looks promising and not too expensive... THEY'RE ARE TWO MODELS...HOW DO I KNOW WHICH ONE IS FOR ME?
The UTG link is the ones you want! The FX no Limit will work great but I know for a fact the UTG for the price works very well and will not move.
If price is the worry get the UTG Drooper....mounts. These will raise the bullet impact 10 to 12"
William