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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: rsterne on July 02, 2015, 08:14:20 PM
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I have given permission to a gentleman by the name of Pau to make Bob's Boattails in Spain.... He sent me the following photos....
(http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo221/rsterne/Bullet%20Casting/Logo_zpse1qtzh4a.png) (http://s378.photobucket.com/user/rsterne/media/Bullet%20Casting/Logo_zpse1qtzh4a.png.html)
Here is the "Cherry" (reamer) used for the 51 gr. BBT in .250 cal....
(http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo221/rsterne/Bullet%20Casting/Cherry_zpsouj7zw2c.jpg) (http://s378.photobucket.com/user/rsterne/media/Bullet%20Casting/Cherry_zpsouj7zw2c.jpg.html)
The mold below will be for a shortened version, which will have the boattail removed to the back of the last drive band.... It will weigh about 43 gr....
(http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo221/rsterne/Bullet%20Casting/Mold_zpsfm9ba65v.jpg) (http://s378.photobucket.com/user/rsterne/media/Bullet%20Casting/Mold_zpsfm9ba65v.jpg.html)
It looks to me like Pau does beautiful work, and the bullets look great....
(http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo221/rsterne/Bullet%20Casting/Bullets_zpskxaacdkw.jpg) (http://s378.photobucket.com/user/rsterne/media/Bullet%20Casting/Bullets_zpskxaacdkw.jpg.html)
I would like to point out that I have no affiliation with Pau, nor am I being compensated in any way.... I wish him all the best in his endeavour....
Bob
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I have talked email with him a few times. Very nice guy!
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Very nice Bob. Canadian bullets in Spain what more can one ask for. :)
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Very cool Bob!
Are they going to be coming back to North America for sale or Spain only?
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No idea.... Hopefully Pau will chime in....
Bob
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Hello everyone and good morning, here in Spain is dawning now,
first thank you Bob, for trusting me to make your minicion in Spain,
Rdsail you so much for "Very nice guy!" then I send the check by mail jajaj
All this began when I was looking for a long not find a decent ammo for my PCP tuning of 100juls,
and searching the internet I came across this wonderful forum, people who have passion for their airguns, and surprises even more when I see many of you have airguns my country, as "Gamo,Cometa, Norica"
now no other manufacturer in the country brand "BMGuns", the factory a friend of mine
Pellethuntr, I really thought that was only manufactured for Spain, but nothing else if not for the shipping costs,
I'll make boxes as Bob shows in his message Boattail 300 units at a price of 20 euros the box,
I would have no objection, in sending US or Canada but of course I think the cost would be high costs something, no?
We can always look the shipping and see if it is feasible to send packages to their region,
for now I'll just make the Model 250 51grn Bob, and proves to eliminate Boattail to leave it in 40-43 grn see if it works as good as the original,
as the "Cherry" (reamer) cost me about 200 Euros, but of course that alone for now ... of course, if it works well and may buy more "Cherry" (reamer) with various designs we can manufacture any type of ammunition and in any amount,
for now I do them with a manual mold, until I finish my automatic machine, which hopefully can produce between 1000 - 2500 units per hour
For now that's all folks, a pleasure to contribute a little to the forum, and publicize the magnificent ammunition Boattail of our friend and colleague Bob in Spain
As I always say ... sorry for my English is that it is not very good, I hope you do not have trouble understanding me.
Greetings to all
Pau
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Pau,
ˇMuchas Gracias!
And don't worry. I'll be sending you my address shortly for a couple of boxes and to mail me the check :) I need to be nicer, seams to work out all right. lol
In only seriousness, I only wish someone was doing the same here in the US. I would love to get more of them for my build. The BBT's do shot best for me so far. I'm just trying to stay away from casting but I think I might not be able to avoid that road when it is all set and done.
I would love a 60g version. I think my gun would gain some efficiency with it. I'm still wasting air. when I go over 90 fpe and a heavier bullet might help.
I think this is outstanding.
Daniel
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Rdsail the truth you're right, it is rare that anyone in the US produces ammunition Bob .... or similar that similar results, as our friend Bob Boattail offers
The truth is that with the ease that is in your country .... I would have done this much earlier,
Here is a video where I got the idea ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUBZBHz7wHg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUBZBHz7wHg)
my machine is very similar in operation to this, but also very different, I found him some small design flaw in mine so I've changed, but still not finished,
is that this machine is commercial and is sold in your country or a similar version, if I lived there I would have bought a long time ago, but ask not sent to Spain,
so I have to make a homemade version of this machine, when the machine is completed, will hang some videos and some photos if anyone wants to copy and play, works with almost any mold that say,
I have also design drawings in Solid Edge so if someone wants to just say,
The idea was not to sell ammunition Bob, if not fabricate just for me on lot for my personal use, but of course ... go to the shooting range (in Spain, you can not shoot in your garden, even if you live legally 100km of any other living) being and hear friends ask .. where does that? where you buy it, it works great ... finding friends like finish giving a few hundred Boattail your friends, but then run out and want more jajajajajajaja,
so I said we have to do the machine for 10 or 20 friends, then friends have other friends and those other friends .... more friends and so almost to the other side of the world and there was born the idea .. and thanks to the selfless help of Bob, as he says has not asked me a single dollar, by making your ammunition, just put your name on the sticker of the "logo" which already had thought to do before asking Bob,
as they say in my country "which is one is one" (I hope this translation is correct so they can understand.
so I can not say more than THANKS BOB, and all the forum for being there when someone has a doubt or question, it is a shame that we are all so far, and we can not go one day to have a beer together and talk of our rifles.
Greetings to all friends
Pau
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fantastic! i seriously wish there was someone making these in the states!!
Ed
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I love the video! Much more elaborate than I expected :) I love the progressive nature of system. Best of luck with your endeavor Pau!
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Pau, have no fear, your English is MUCH better than my Spanish.... *LOL*.... I have many other designs, for different weights and calibers, when you are interested....
Bob
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Bob ajajajaja careful to say that you have so many designs .... I ask you all together jajajaj
the truth is that for my country ... the biggest caliber used is there any samyang .30 .308 condor or Sumatra , in 35 or 50 but could count on my fingers the .50 caliber throughout the country without needing more fingers LOL ...
once ask the Civil Guard is like the ATF , to buy a PCP DAQ .308 .35 / 9mm and bring him to Spain legally , his response was .... " but man, that does not exist in airgun , would have to shoot paper balls "
lol to teach you a video of a DAQ 50 Bandit .
Stunned man was left , to see such power in a " BB gun "
Bob anyway and have my private mail , anything you want to teach me ... I have no problem in seeing jajaj
Greetings friends
Pau
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Very cool Bob! Muy bueno!
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QVTom Hi , thanks for your answer , I also wish you luck with your PCP , really that long ago I saw them and I find them very beautiful , also with a very respectable powers,
if you want to look more like video for youtube , find this ...
"Automatic casting machine" out several models , including a manual model ... that even a manual .. with practice it can take an automatic production
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utZJwDMwcVs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utZJwDMwcVs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3OqRrPvzTY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3OqRrPvzTY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usqz1Hyjnyc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usqz1Hyjnyc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr7RCO49I60 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr7RCO49I60)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EdRTMo-tMI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EdRTMo-tMI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZQlLImLw3o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZQlLImLw3o)
but what I said before ... price ... overpriced if we add the price of shipping to my country would come out for a $ 14,000 USD
Greetings friends
Pau
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Great!
Any plans to make the .300" BBT ? (not .308")
- you know, for the Sean/Bob 26 twist TJ (XS60C HP 'Grizzly') liner?
Thanks,
Rod
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Hello friends. as I promised, here is a video of the development of my automatic casting machine ,
As you can see there is still a lot of work on it , the machine will not spin so fast , I wish I could take a shot every time ajajajajajaja , but still lack an encoder sensor, for controlling the rotation and position of the molds , plus many settings rather than slowly rising ire ,
I hope you like the start or at least have fun watching it .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXRxZ1x0Bns (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXRxZ1x0Bns)
a greeting
Pau
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Nice work Pau! it is coming along
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Rdsail the truth you're right, it is rare that anyone in the US produces ammunition Bob .... or similar that similar results, as our friend Bob Boattail offers
The truth is that with the ease that is in your country .... I would have done this much earlier,
Here is a video where I got the idea ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUBZBHz7wHg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUBZBHz7wHg)
my machine is very similar in operation to this, but also very different, I found him some small design flaw in mine so I've changed, but still not finished,
is that this machine is commercial and is sold in your country or a similar version, if I lived there I would have bought a long time ago, but ask not sent to Spain,
so I have to make a homemade version of this machine, when the machine is completed, will hang some videos and some photos if anyone wants to copy and play, works with almost any mold that say,
I have also design drawings in Solid Edge so if someone wants to just say,
The idea was not to sell ammunition Bob, if not fabricate just for me on lot for my personal use, but of course ... go to the shooting range (in Spain, you can not shoot in your garden, even if you live legally 100km of any other living) being and hear friends ask .. where does that? where you buy it, it works great ... finding friends like finish giving a few hundred Boattail your friends, but then run out and want more jajajajajajaja,
so I said we have to do the machine for 10 or 20 friends, then friends have other friends and those other friends .... more friends and so almost to the other side of the world and there was born the idea .. and thanks to the selfless help of Bob, as he says has not asked me a single dollar, by making your ammunition, just put your name on the sticker of the "logo" which already had thought to do before asking Bob,
as they say in my country "which is one is one" (I hope this translation is correct so they can understand.
so I can not say more than THANKS BOB, and all the forum for being there when someone has a doubt or question, it is a shame that we are all so far, and we can not go one day to have a beer together and talk of our rifles.
Greetings to all friends
Pau
Quite elaborate an endeavor... and very interesting to watch..... Pau in Hawaiian means.... Fini... Done..... maybe in your case the "last word" on the subject... ;D
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Rattus58 Hello friend, thank you for your encouragement.
gradually I press with my machine but now comes the summer, and here in Valencia makes an exaggerated, or 100.4 38C heat and 80% humidity 85% ...
so I bit the workshop to work jajaj, but slowly things out this week .. buy a motor reducer of 1HP and 14RPM.
I have also already 99% of the electronics for controlling the machine,
PID temperature control ...
Arduino UNO, for controlling the engine and the opening of the casting of lead for Arduino relays, solid state relays for controlling the resistance of casting,
I am finishing also the encoder to control motor speed and positioning,
and a long list etc ....
little by little I'll upload progress of the machine photos video etc, now I have a half dismantled, because I'm finishing a modification itself, in the original machine, takes about side hoops, which is what closes the molds and makes downstairs open, this system only works when all molds and mold holders are 100% identical without variation ...
prototype thing to be in mine ... not perfect ...
so I put shafts with springs, in that ring ... so that when the mold reaches that point is the pressure of a spring which closes the mold, not the pressure exerted steel against steel, so both wear the system is much smaller and softer.
Greetings to all friends
Pau
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Hi good afternoon everyone.
after a while I have been "disappeared" work, the design of the machine, making 8000 Bob's Boattails a 4-cavity mold . jajajaj
I have finally worked and at a logo and ammunition boxes for packaging .
I've talked with our friend Bob to make sending their Bob's Boattails made in Spain .
need to see that agency send it .
at the end say that the design of the machine will change the design to teach you in your day , you will be more compact and small but with the same production capacity between 1500 and 4500 Bob's Boattails per hour, or any other design of ammunition .
Here you have some images of the box and logo as I am taking the points.
http://imgur.com/fyTb2oG (http://imgur.com/fyTb2oG)
Greetings to all and hope everyone is well .
Pau
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i got 3 of these boxes home and realy am impressed with the proffesional quality and fast service of this man !
right now i need to find a good unchocked barrel for them to shoot out of my marauder .25 as i got the advise not to shoot them out of a pellet barrel.
More results will follow !!
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Hello friend Kristiaan
I do not know how glad you liked the // Bob´s Boattail // our friend Bob,
for 2 weeks I'm looking for a shipping company , a reasonable price, to give our friend Bob a few boxes of their own ammunition ,
but I charge a minimum of 110 € for sending 5kg // 11lb
to see if I talk to other company I've been told it is cheap and I can do sending our friend Bob ,
Greetings to all friends
Pau
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Hey Pau ! where are you ?