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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Talan on June 15, 2015, 07:13:24 PM
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Ok, I've sold enough of my other guns to finally enter the darkside. At least the lesser price range of the darkside. I have read till I look like a red eyed owl. Now if you guys would be kind enough, I like an opinion or two to push me that final step. I have decided on a 22 disco with pump and chrony. Never having either, I am looking forward to having both. What I'm asking I guess is, are you disco shooters out there happy with your guns, and if I threw all the reviews I have read in to file 13, what is the real truth. I am getting the feeling that they are pretty good entry level WMDs.
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most people that have them are very happy with them.
They are generally good accurate shooters.
one of their advantages is that they operate at 2000 psi which is easily hand pump-able with a good pump,...
and/or
when you decie to buy a tank, you can use a standard 3000-3200psi scuba tank (cheap to buy on CL), for many fills.
This also holds true for the FDPCP's and the QB 78/79 conversions to HPA.
If you are content with single shot rifle, and the noise level is not of concern to you, then you will be very happy with it.
If you eventually plan on making it a repeater, or the noise is an issue, then buy the time you add all the mods and upgrades to it, you will probably have as much $$ into it as something like a Mrod or AT44.
BUT,...
... then you are talking about 3000psi guns, that many find less than desireable to hand pump, and a regular scuba take will not provide many refills.
So it really just depends on what you want out of it, and what you need it to do.
When deciding on what you want weighed against a set budget, you need to consider what you want in the long run.
The Disco's are very good guns to start with.
but be forwarned... the Darkside is very powerful, and chances are, you will want to "move-up" to a model with more features in the future.
Welcome to the Darkside, there is no turning back now ;) ;D 8)
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I had a Disco. It was a great gun and it put many a meal on the table. However, it had limited shot count and limited power. I wanted something that was 30+ fpe and regulated.
For a target shooter/backyard pester, it is very good.
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Thanks for the reply. My main concerns are accuracy and lighter weight. Noise, not a problem although shot count might be somewhat. I have sold my 8 and 9 lb. rifles as they were just getting to heavy hauling around in the woods. I am just not able to justify a Brocock or Airforce as they are light but somewhat expensive at this time. Maybe someday if I stay on the Darkside.
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They are plenty accurate out to 50 yards. And they are really light too. You can expect 15-20 good shots out of the box. That is pretty good for a hunting rifle. However, I shoot pests at a local farm, so it isn't uncommon for me to take over 100 shots in a trip.
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Like Chris says, lightweight and good hunters. I use a 3-9x32 Bugbuster from PA on mine. Here is my string but my .22 Disco is an older model. Lighter spring than the new ones and a few fps less than the newer models. You can change the spring or/add a power adjuster to "tune" it how you want. I have no problem taking rabbits/squirrels and pests with mine.
30 Shot string (2/24/2015) Crosman HP 14.3gr (shoots them very well)
800-835-800 ES-35 FPE-21.36 AVG-820fps
2100-1100 fill
ps... If you have a scuba shop near you a bottle is a good investment. Like others have said get one off this forum or Craig's List. I have a 90ci ninja type bottle that the local scuba fills to 4200. I get 25 full fills on my Disco with this bottle. A regular 80cf scuba bottle will give you 70 fills at 3000psi.
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Thanks guys, I have a 22 disco on order and a Chrony master. The red one. Some here have said it was an OK one to start with. I ordered it this morning and it's not here yet. Wonder what is taking them so long. I sorta feel like a five year old at Christmas.
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Just remember that while the disco is a fun gun, it's still an entry level PCP. I didn't have that in my head when I got my first one. The first one I received shot way off to the left. Couldn't even adjust the rear sight to bring it to zero. Never did figure that one out. Sent it back and got a replacement. That one actually shot really well. For three days. Then I went to pump it up and the female fitting from the pump popped off the gun, dumping all the air from the gun. Wouldn't pump back up after that. I got frustrated and sent it back for a refund. Little did I know that a 59 cent o-ring from my local hardware store would have fixed the problem.
My mind set was that the gun should be "perfect", out of the box. Swore off PCP's and went back to springers. Never could obtain the accuracy with a springer that was so easy with the disco.
I finally realized that if I wanted that kind of accuracy at that price point, I would have to do some tweaking and service here and there. The good thing about the disco is that it's easy to work on, parts are readily availble, and pretty inexpensive.
I ordered another disco and pump. This time from Norm at Disco's R Us, which I very highly recommend by the way. It was nice knowing that the gun had been tested by someone who really knew what they were doing, and it was going to hold air, right out of the box.
Now, with the right attitude, I'm having a blast with my disco! I've had to tweak it a bit here and there, and sure enough, the pump blew off just like the last one, only this time I got on here and learned about the o-ring. Litterally a 30 second fix.
I keep looking at more powerful guns like the M-rod, etc. Aside from the wrath of my wife if I dropped that kind of coin on another gun, the things that keep me from "upgrading", are some of the advantages of the disco. Mainly, it's so darn easy to fill to 2,000 psi vs. 3,000 psi, and doesn't require a much more expensive pump or very high pressure tank. If I get lazy, I can grab an aluminum 80 and get 10 fills off of it for the disco. Can't do that with a 3,000 psi gun. Also, it's light weight. Actually much lighter than my .22 rimfire hunting rifle.
Might sound cheezy, but another huge advantage is that it's an American gun. If I need parts, I call Crosman and order them, usually at a much lower price than I expect. Hard to beat that.
Yep, the first time you squeeze off a shot and the gun holds so still that you literally watch the pellet hit your mark through your scope, you're gonna be hooked!
Ron.
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The more I shoot (this one) the more I like it. Accurate enough. I shoot vegetable cans out to 150 yards no problem. It is loud out of the box so I went the tko route to solve that problem. My current Disco is a replacement for a previously poor shooting and leaky purchase of the same through Amazon. I was really disappointment in the first rifle but I think shipping and handling had something to do with it. The factory packaging isn't really enough for the abuse my UPS/Fedex guys put most of my packages through. I'm already planning my next PCP purchase (magazine fed, shrouded, higher shot count) but, for the price I paid, I won't be letting this one go. If I ever have any doubts about keeping the Disco I'll just go shoot my Trail NP2. I'm sure that would change my mind.
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Thanks guys, I have a 22 disco on order and a Chrony master. The red one. Some here have said it was an OK one to start with. I ordered it this morning and it's not here yet. Wonder what is taking them so long. I sorta feel like a five year old at Christmas.
You will be very satisfied with your Disco, I have 2 Disco's and love them both, the best pellet for mine are the 15.9 JSB's. Now I have one Disco that is fully modded as far or just about as far as you can go and one almost stock that is just modded for a 3000 PSI fill. The fully customized Disco I have is worth about $1200, so you can have your Disco grow with you as you go up in the Dark Side! These Disco's are one of the best out of the box shooting PCP's you can buy for the money. They are a great all around target and small game rifle (.22 cal.). Once you get a good pellet shooting nice groups I would say an average of 1/2" groups at 50 yards on occasion is always possible and around 3/8" groups at 40 yards and under.
You will enjoy your Disco very much, it is a fun way to start due to the fact that you can take it to just about any level of precision or power you want over time. This is one of the best learning tools (PCP) you can buy. My Disco's all got about 15-20 shots to a fill of 2100 PSI down to 1000 PSI when they were stock, that is if you get one that has the older style hammer spring, I did hear the newer Disco's had a little stiffer spring bringing the shot count down but it increased the FPS for those fewer shots. Your new Chrony will tell you the whole story about your new Disco, it will take time and patients but in the end you will like the rewards and everyone here on the GTA will be glad to help you out any way they can.
I do have some videos on you tube from when I started out with my Disco up until today with a fully modded one, it took me awhile but I got there with mine. I had gotten a bad barrel when I purchased mine but after figuring that out, it is one of the best shooting PCP's I own. I do believe the barrel problem has been fixed so don't worry about that, just chrony your gun and get it shooting good with its favorite pellet and go from there.
https://www.youtube.com/user/wmgnapier/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/wmgnapier/videos)
Enjoy and have fun
William
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Don't think you will regret your purchase if you aren't afraid to dig in a bit to get it setup properly...but as others have said, you have been forewarned, it won't be your last PCP!