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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Bargain Gate => Topic started by: darryl on July 30, 2010, 08:55:42 PM
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The pistol is rated at 600FPS in .22 (well, at least the marketing says so), and is nicely reduced over at Airgunsdaily.com. Here's the link for interested parties:
http://www.airgunsdaily.com/?utm_source=AirgunsDaily+Daily+Email+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f60adafa9b-Daily_Product_Email_6_21_2010&utm_medium=email (http://www.airgunsdaily.com/?utm_source=AirgunsDaily+Daily+Email+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f60adafa9b-Daily_Product_Email_6_21_2010&utm_medium=email)
don't know if I'll try to get one, but here's the price at PA: https://www.pyramydair.com/product/browning-800-express?m=1857#productDescription (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/browning-800-express?m=1857#productDescription) You'll find interesting reviews too.
darryl
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Just read the gaylord report on this gun. When he replaced the breech seal with a larger one, he had lead velocities over 700fps and non lead raptors did almost 900. Incredible.
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It looks a lot like a Diana..
same fps etc....
bet it kicks like a mule...
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Just read the gaylord report on this gun. When he replaced the breech seal with a larger one, he had lead velocities over 700fps and non lead raptors did almost 900. Incredible.
hey JR,
got a link to that report?
Pete, the pistol is said to have little recoil. It's built to have low recoil. Some of the reviews say so as well.
darryl
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https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2010/06/browning-800-mag-part-5/ (https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2010/06/browning-800-mag-part-5/)–-part-6/
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thanks JR!
darryl
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Just read the gaylord report on this gun. When he replaced the breech seal with a larger one, he had lead velocities over 700fps and non lead raptors did almost 900. Incredible.
hey JR,
got a link to that report?
Pete, the pistol is said to have little recoil. It's built to have low recoil. Some of the reviews say so as well.
darryl
I was just shooting one earlier this week. It has a sliding mechanism (similar to RWS54). Very small amount of recoil for the velocity
Mark
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what else can you tell us about the 800 Mag, Mark? What caliber were you shooting?
darryl
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It was a .177. All I did was mount a redDot scope for a guy I work with. Of course, I get to sight it in -that's the fun part. Like I said, very low recoil. Also pretty darn accurate - I'm not much of a pistol shooter, but I had no problem sticking 4 or 5 in about 1 1/2 inches at 25 yards. One thing I noticed, all the screws loosened up after about 20 shots or so. I didn't check them before I started, but I felt things moving when I was cocking it. They were pretty loose, and after I cranked them down was when the gun started grouping well. Probably nothing a little Loc-tite wouldn't solve.
I just ordered a chrony tonight, when I get it - I'm sure I can get the gun back and give you some numbers.
Mark
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Just read part 2 of that blog. What makes you think that shooting ultra-lite non-lead pellets out of a pistol will be any different from shooting them in a rifle? Ultra-lites in magnum springers = burnt/damaged piston seals and broken springs. Mr. Gaylord is doing a disservice in promoting this king of thing in the name of "wow, over 700fps" etc etc etc!!! He's been around long enough to know better.
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When I saw the deal pop up on airgunsdaily I went back an watched Paul Capellos P.A. review of the .177 version.... that gun was shooting normal weight pellets in the 700's. If the .177 version is only in the 700's there's no way the .22 is going to spit them out that fast. If airgunsdaily was offering the .177 I'd probably go for one, but the .22 isn't going to live up to their claims so I'm passing.
Jeff
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I was shooting Predators out of this one. He's going to use it for pest control, and Predators seem to be as accurate in a large number of guns as any others I've tried.(darn good hunting pellet also) This sight-in session was what spurred me to order a chrony last night, as I was (am) really curious as to what velocity the gun did with "real" pellets.
As soon as the chrony arrives - I'll get the gun back and test a few different weights . Guess I'm kind of intrigued by this "miniature" springer.
Mark
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LongIsland, how many rifles can toss a .22 at 700fps? If a pistol could, who could cock it, LOL? 500 fps in a .22 pistol is pretty hot. That said, if you noticed not long after these came out, there was a rash of used ones for sometimes as little as $100, LNIB.
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what else can you tell us about the 800 Mag, Mark? What caliber were you shooting?
darryl
really....why would yer want a unmodded 22xx then...
sounds like a good little bird gun....
Pete
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You are correct Redfeather but my problem is that in order to legally hunt small game in NY with an air gun it must have a minimum of 600 FPS ,,,, so 500 fps isn't going to work for me.....
Jeff
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Add in it is about $5 less at Fed Tactical and you have some good choices for this pistol.
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what else can you tell us about the 800 Mag, Mark? What caliber were you shooting?
darryl
really....why would yer want a unmodded 22xx then...
sounds like a good little bird gun....
Pete
Well, I own a Crosman 2240/2300 pistol. It has a 14 inch barrel. As I understand what people say about a CO2 pistol, the longer-than-stock barrel offers greater FPS because the CO2 has more barrel length to expand into, creating more pressure behind the pellet, and so more FPS. Both springers and CO2 types have their drawbacks. With CO2 the FPS drops, as does POI from POA as the cartridge depletes it's supply. Also, the cartridge is more sensitive to ambient temperatures than a springer (again with the drop of POI from POA), or even PCP/HPA types. Springers for the most part can't be left cocked, and powerful units can be damaged by using light-weight pellets (no such problem with a CO2 type). Cocking my 2300 takes almost no effort, unlike the Browning (can the Incredible Hulk cock this thing if he's not in full rage mode?).
I guess I still favor springers. zzyzx, thanks for the price info over at Fed Tactical. $5 bucks is $5 bucks. ;) But I'm still not sure if I want the 800 mag.
darryl
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They supply you with a cocking "handle" for the 800. Slips over the end of the barrel with a notch cut out for the front sight. Being the "Manly Man" -I cocked it the first 3 times without the handle. Wrecked my hand on the sight. The handle actually works pretty well -lol
Mark
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Well, I was putting some Crosman Premier domes through my Crosman a short while ago. One good thing about is the cocking-loading sequence. It's cocked by sliding the breech handle whatcha-ma-cawlit back. Then insert a pellet and there ya go. This can be done fairly rapidly, and before you know it, you're slamming pellets down-range and a very good pace. It's an accurate plinker, probably more so than I can shoot (I'm the original wobbly goblin). Apparently the 800 Mag is more of a beast, though not necessarily more powerful than my Crosman (Brutuz once told me that a 14" barrel should yield about 550fps versus 460 fps with the stock 7" barrel). Still, I find the idea of a powerful springer pistol alluring. But if the 800 Mag is really no more powerful than what I already have...maybe I just have a collector bug at the moment (though not a large budget to get real busy with it). Oh well. I'll sort it out.
Meanwhile, Mark I look forward to you posting some chrony info on the 800.
salute!
darryl