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Title: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on April 14, 2015, 02:25:25 PM
I just received a reply from Pavel, from JSB.  He stated a very small order has been sent to his importer (Predatorpellets) of the new 34 grain JSB .25's.  I already called and placed myself an order for a couple tins.  They are at this time already sold out of stock of this first batch, as they have gone like wild fire.  However they have a cargo ship incoming with a large order (not the whole ship obviously full but enough to satisfy us for a time), and are about 3 weeks out.  Predatorpellets assured me they are awesome!!!  I will Provide a FULL write up as soon as they get here!!!

I also spoke with the manager/owner/??? of predatorpellets, and told him how much I'd love to see a heavy .22 and .25 polymag.  even though they would be too long for a lot of magazines, the single shot crowd would LOVE a heavier polymag... he thought it was a great idea!  we shall see!

Edward
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: Bwalton on April 14, 2015, 02:58:12 PM
I just received a reply from Pavel, from JSB.  He stated a very small order has been sent to his importer (Predatorpellets) of the new 34 grain JSB .25's.  I already called and placed myself an order for a couple tins.  They are at this time already sold out of stock of this first batch, as they have gone like wild fire.  However they have a cargo ship incoming with a large order (not the whole ship obviously full but enough to satisfy us for a time), and are about 3 weeks out.  Predatorpellets assured me they are awesome!!!  I will Provide a FULL write up as soon as they get here!!!

I also spoke with the manager/owner/??? of predatorpellets, and told him how much I'd love to see a heavy .22 and .25 polymag.  even though they would be too long for a lot of magazines, the single shot crowd would LOVE a heavier polymag... he thought it was a great idea!  we shall see!

Edward


That is great news, The polymag they also make a short so a heavy short would fit all mags. I have just enough Kings to last for 3 weeks of pesting! Shooting those 34gr @ 970fps is going to be great!
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: turbonoma on April 14, 2015, 04:24:03 PM
So where will the next shipment arrive? Where can I place my order?
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on April 14, 2015, 04:44:42 PM
Great news, can't wait to test them, if they are anything like the 25s out of my guns this will become very interesting :) :)
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on April 14, 2015, 04:52:32 PM
Tony,

because your in Puerto rico, I would email Pavel at jsb to determine who your importer might be.  You can try to call Predatorpellets Dick Dixon and ask him. 

Ed.
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on April 14, 2015, 05:26:51 PM
Anybody asked Pyramyd ?

Biggest importer in the U.S.
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on April 14, 2015, 05:28:49 PM
I was told BY JSB, to talk to predator.  I would assume PA would have some kind of COMING SOON type deal if they were getting them. 

buy 3 get 1 free is sweet.
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: turbonoma on April 14, 2015, 06:06:25 PM
Tony,
because your in Puerto rico, I would email Pavel at jsb to determine who your importer might be.  You can try to call Predatorpellets Dick Dixon and ask him. 
Ed.

I've always had to buy JSB pellets stateside. No one here imports quality pellets.
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: turbonoma on April 14, 2015, 06:18:22 PM
Just spoke to PA and they have nothing as of yet. Once they know when the pellets are on their way, you can pre-order.
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: PakProtector on April 16, 2015, 07:33:42 AM
Sounds like good news to me. I hope I can get in on PA's first batch with an order of 4 tins...:)
cheers,
Douglas
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on April 27, 2015, 10:31:48 PM
just got my tracking number.  i'll have them by Thursday this week.  Predator Pellets is the Importer as of right now.  Dick Dixon there assures me these things are sweet!  I will do a full review once i get them.  right now my condor is turned DOWN to 57 fpe shooting 31.02 baracudas at 912 FPS avg.  I can very very easily turn it up to 65+ fpe
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: blackdiesel on April 27, 2015, 11:13:00 PM
How much are they priced if you don't mind me asking? 
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on April 27, 2015, 11:44:08 PM
what i paid, may or may not be the final price.  so i will NOT say exactly.  comparable to existing 350 count tin prices.
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: PakProtector on April 28, 2015, 07:23:35 AM
Sounds good to me. 2 of the '2-3 weeks' have passed. Looking forward to placing an order within the next 8 days for sure...:)
cheers,
Douglas
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on April 28, 2015, 01:06:22 PM
Pyramyd shows nothing yet :( :(
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on April 28, 2015, 01:35:46 PM
look up predator pellets, (makers of polymags)  they are the official importer for these as far as I was informed.

I personally can't wait!!!

Edward
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: Bwalton on April 28, 2015, 02:45:30 PM
Its hard to believe the 2-3 weeks out, that would put them here May 5th....While PA has some of the H&N pellets due in June, so if they were that close would not PA start a pre order post inside the new product page?
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on April 28, 2015, 09:26:22 PM
Makes no sense to me, Pyramyd has every JSB pellet and it's obviously importing them,... but not this one ?
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: PakProtector on April 29, 2015, 07:59:31 AM
Makes no sense to me, Pyramyd has every JSB pellet and it's obviously importing them,... but not this one ?

Pyramyd is missing the pointed Straton and the flat wad cutter in .22 at least.
cheers,
Douglas
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: Whatsquirrel on April 29, 2015, 12:57:10 PM
just got my tracking number.  i'll have them by Thursday this week.  Predator Pellets is the Importer as of right now.  Dick Dixon there assures me these things are sweet!  I will do a full review once i get them.  right now my condor is turned DOWN to 57 fpe shooting 31.02 baracudas at 912 FPS avg.  I can very very easily turn it up to 65+ fpe

Let me know how they perform accuracy wise. Looking for other pellets for the new Condor SS.
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: Bwalton on April 29, 2015, 01:01:41 PM
look up predator pellets, (makers of polymags)  they are the official importer for these as far as I was informed.

I personally can't wait!!!

Edward


I did .....http://www.predatorpellets.com/Products.html (http://www.predatorpellets.com/Products.html)
seen nothing ? why cant we just have to link and connection to order? can you post that?
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on April 29, 2015, 09:25:38 PM
you have to call them.  Ask for Dick Dixon.  There contact information should be on the website!
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: Bwalton on April 29, 2015, 10:54:50 PM
Thanks Ed
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on April 30, 2015, 12:27:11 PM
OK, i just spoke with predator.  they are the DISTRIBUTOR to Pyramydair and AGdepot.  They do  NOT have them for sale at this time.  roughly the 20th of may they will be for sale through appropriate .  However my past conversations/dealings with Pavel from JSB got me a few to play with.  Here is proof, they DO exist!  Full review pending!!!  Rumor has it I am #1 consumer in the USA to get these.  JSB also sent me a little neoprene pellet tin container which is way sweet.

(http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad180/gamikatsu/Mobile%20Uploads/20150430_111447_zpsyrqakbmq.jpg) (http://s933.photobucket.com/user/gamikatsu/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150430_111447_zpsyrqakbmq.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: rsterne on April 30, 2015, 01:04:18 PM
What is the overall length of the pellet?....

Bob
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on April 30, 2015, 01:10:16 PM
Bob. 

I will do what I can to get all the specs on them This evening.

Ed
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on April 30, 2015, 02:26:34 PM
Sweet, looking forward to try some of them
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: FamilyMan811 on April 30, 2015, 05:08:55 PM
  8) LUCKY... any chance you plan to sling a few thru a Marauder?
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: PakProtector on April 30, 2015, 06:06:16 PM
Nice, so we're now 3 weeks out...again.
cheers,
Douglas
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on April 30, 2015, 06:56:14 PM
As Bob requested, I am going to measure some pellets here.

First, 5 random sample'd 25.4 grain JSB's, (Actually AirArms repackaged JSB's) head and length in inches
Head   Length
.249    .310
.249    .310
.249    .309
.249    .309
.249    .310

all in all, VERY consistant for what i can see

now, the 33.98 grain JSB's
Head   Length
.249    .352
.249    .353
.249    .352
.249    .352
.249    .352

looks very very good to me!!!

I am about to do 17 yard (its raining outside) accuracy testing and chrony testing from the condor SS.  with 31.02 grain baracudas i get 912 fps avg over 30 shots, 57 fpe.  i'm hoping to pick up a few FPE with these. 

Ed.
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on April 30, 2015, 07:15:55 PM
at 20 yards, (furthest i can test today)   i'm getting just about, a single caliber hole.  the accuracy of these in MY PARTICULAR RIFLE is absolutly amazing.  i'm getting 15 very flat shots at 903 FPS avg, 61.5 FPE average.  the neat thing is i'm only using roughly 400 or 500 psi of air.  but after the 15th shot my FPS drops to 880's, and i stop there.  right at 900 fps these things are amazing accurate.

Further and Further groups to follow!!!

Edward
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: rsterne on April 30, 2015, 08:25:42 PM
Sounds absolutely great.... good FPE and accuracy, and they should fit in any .25 cal magazine.... My Hatsan AT-44 S-10 Long really needs these, it cranks out 72 FPE with 36 gr. Daystates, but the accuracy isn't there....

Bob
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: blackdiesel on April 30, 2015, 09:08:37 PM
The video of when they were presented at this year's shot show had a 50 yard group shot through an Air Arms 510 and it was very tight. 
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on April 30, 2015, 10:46:55 PM
I don't want to brag, as i know i'm the only, or one of the only with them.  So i will try and refrain.  I will say, these are very nice looking pellets.  they are very very accurate.  the FPE is awesome.  they definatly DO fill a void.  25 JSB for med/light powered guns.  31 Baracuda/kodiak for the medium powered guns, and then cast stuff for the higher powered guns.  the MIDDLE ground was dominated by Cuda/kodiaks.  I think these have a permanant spot on my rack.


Ed
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: FamilyMan811 on May 01, 2015, 01:11:18 AM
Someone nearby give  Ed a Mrod to toss a few thru quick!
 ;D
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: blackdiesel on May 01, 2015, 01:39:06 AM
Someone nearby give  Ed a Mrod to toss a few thru quick!
 ;D

I would think that the 25.4 JSBs are better suited for a M-Rod unless it's been modded and shooting the 25 gr pellets too hot.  I think the Hatsan BT65, Sumatra and Airforce guns that overpower the 25 gr JSBs will benefit more from these. 
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: jaraxle1zx on May 01, 2015, 02:32:45 AM
So what's really the time line on these?
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: FamilyMan811 on May 01, 2015, 08:23:20 AM
Someone nearby give  Ed a Mrod to toss a few thru quick!
 ;D

I would think that the 25.4 JSBs are better suited for a M-Rod unless it's been modded and shooting the 25 gr pellets too hot.  I think the Hatsan BT65, Sumatra and Airforce guns that overpower the 25 gr JSBs will benefit more from these.

Agreed but mine is slinging Cudas about 925fps and Kings near 1000 so I'm very curious
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: blackdiesel on May 01, 2015, 09:40:03 AM
Someone nearby give  Ed a Mrod to toss a few thru quick!
 ;D

I would think that the 25.4 JSBs are better suited for a M-Rod unless it's been modded and shooting the 25 gr pellets too hot.  I think the Hatsan BT65, Sumatra and Airforce guns that overpower the 25 gr JSBs will benefit more from these.

Agreed but mine is slinging Cudas about 925fps and Kings near 1000 so I'm very curious

Well yours fall into that category that shoots the regular JSBs too hot. 
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: jhm757 on May 01, 2015, 01:57:33 PM
Someone nearby give  Ed a Mrod to toss a few thru quick!
 ;D

I would think that the 25.4 JSBs are better suited for a M-Rod unless it's been modded and shooting the 25 gr pellets too hot.  I think the Hatsan BT65, Sumatra and Airforce guns that overpower the 25 gr JSBs will benefit more from these.

Agreed but mine is slinging Cudas about 925fps and Kings near 1000 so I'm very curious

Well yours fall into that category that shoots the regular JSBs too hot.

Yeah, I'm in that category also! I had to turn my power down to get the 25gr JSB's to fly right, I can't wait to get my hands on the 34gr JSB's so I can turn the power back up!

Jim - jhm757
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on May 01, 2015, 04:27:10 PM
Same here, unless i put a weaker spring JSB and Predators shoot way to hot and scatter, with the weaker spring they both are phenomenal, the 34gr should be just perfect in stock power.
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on May 02, 2015, 01:13:13 PM
Ok.  very quick 30 yard grouping is very very good.  shooting off a bipod on a kitchen chair has penny sized groups give or take.  I'm very wobbly and I'm doing figure 8's on the target.  still able to hold a group that sized.  they are very consistant and very accurate.  I am very happy with them.

Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: jhm757 on May 02, 2015, 01:59:36 PM
Boy when they do finally become available I bet they will sell out fast.

I hope I can get some of the first batch!

If anybody gets word that somewhere is selling them please PM me and let me know!!!

Jim - jhm757
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: 454 Big Block Chevy on May 02, 2015, 03:57:51 PM
PA and AGdepot will get them first... from what the distributor told me.

Ed.
Title: Re: JSB .25 heavies!!! 2-3 weeks out!
Post by: Bwalton on May 02, 2015, 04:47:10 PM
When I get some I will post groups from 50yards to 120yards...seeing that I have a full BR range 5mins from me ;D