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Title: light weight hammer
Post by: Whatsquirrel on March 21, 2015, 11:30:46 PM

I seen a thread not to long ago on light weight hammers but i can't seem to find it. Can someone give me the link. I recently did the bstaley mod to my .177 Syn Rod tuned to 12 fpe. Getting 54 shots with a es of 18. I was wondering if a lighter hammer would give me a higher shot count. Thanks guys.

Title: Re: light weight hammer
Post by: Motorhead on March 22, 2015, 01:56:57 AM

The light hammer for M-rods and resulting R&D was done for .177 & .22 caliber rifles using a Regulator
When action is only sipping on 1800-1900psi the valve opening & hammer requirements changed drastically allowing if so inclined, use of much reduced hammer weight.


 8) Scott

Title: Re: light weight hammer
Post by: moorepower on March 22, 2015, 01:35:15 PM

That's a nice e.s.

Title: Re: light weight hammer
Post by: Ribbonstone on March 22, 2015, 02:19:56 PM

If you want to stay at the same power level and working pressure range, would need to increase the striker spring tension when using a lighter striker.  Just a matter of force applied to the valve stem vs force holding the stem closed.

When you do the above with a lighter striker, three things seem to happen.

1.  The really small velocity variation shots  (like the 2% variation shots) increase a good bit.

2. The over all 4 or 5% velocity variation shots doesn’t increase a great deal.

3. The sweet spot pressure range gets narrower.  If it was running its best from 2900-1800psi, it might now run its best from 2800-2000 psi

So, it often works out to more efficient. Are using less air (item #3) and gaining a few shots (item #1).

If you feel like ordering a new striker (as I’d mych prefer to work on a spare  and keep the original), could lighten it and give it a try. 

Lathe works well, but considering that it only has to be the original shape at the top and bottom, could grind the sides flat with a bench grinder.  Could lose up to 30% of the weight and see a difference.

Title: Re: light weight hammer
Post by: D14Jeff on March 22, 2015, 02:52:16 PM

can you lighten the force of your hammer spring (compress it) to lessen the impact of the stock hammer to simulate a lighter hammer ?

Title: Re: light weight hammer
Post by: Ribbonstone on March 22, 2015, 09:11:42 PM

Yes, if you don't mind it running at a lower pressure and earning a little less energy.