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Title: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: starlingassassin on March 04, 2015, 05:20:25 PM
the only bad thing about the b50s is that they are so LOUD!!!!

but mine (well,not mine but hers) is not any more  ;D


(http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy218/cd15465/4b28fe3d-f7cf-4072-aab8-723ee42b930e.jpg) (http://s793.photobucket.com/user/cd15465/media/4b28fe3d-f7cf-4072-aab8-723ee42b930e.jpg.html)



i know where to get ldc's that fit the b50/51 and the xs60c barrels for 40 shipped (i am not the one making or selling them)


you need to paint them yourself (i did 2 coats of flat black and 3 coats of satin clear with rattle cans)
cant beat that deal with a stick  ;D

pm me if you want the contact info :)




(MODERATORS,if this is not acceptable for me to be posting please remove,or if it would fit better in the bargain gate feel free to move it)
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: Rubicon_Joey on March 04, 2015, 05:34:43 PM
PM sent... ;)
Looks like it's pretty long, I'm guessing maybe 10-12 inches?
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: SpiralGroove on March 04, 2015, 06:10:13 PM
Hey starlingassassin,
I can't remember, but did you go with a lighter hammer spring or valve spring?
A loud BAM B50 is operating inefficiently :P    Hence, you're not optimizing the gun to its potential, unless using massive pellets.

What velocity is yours shooting at?  Likely too much Hammer  :'( ---> if using pellets less than 11 grains, reduce pre-load until your ave. velocity is between 850/950 fps.
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: starlingassassin on March 04, 2015, 06:11:40 PM
PM sent... ;)
Looks like it's pretty long, I'm guessing maybe 10-12 inches?


just measured,its 8.5" long
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: starlingassassin on March 04, 2015, 06:39:53 PM
Hey starlingassassin,
I can't remember, but did you go with a lighter hammer spring or valve spring?
A loud BAM B50 is operating inefficiently :P    Hence, you're not optimizing the gun to its potential, unless using massive pellets.

What velocity is yours shooting at?  Likely too much Hammer  :'( ---> if using pellets less than 11 grains, reduce pre-load until your ave. velocity is between 850/950 fps.




its still as it came from mike.

have not tried to tune it yet at all,
and have only shot a few pellets through it due to it being so cold lately.

i plan on eventually having it reg'd,

but it seems to like the jsb monsters alot,
so i may just drop down on the hammer spring to maybe be able to get a decent curve with the stock hammer and valve spring,
to keep the power up.

25-26+fpe should do nicely  ;D lol



Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: SpiralGroove on March 04, 2015, 07:57:40 PM
Hey SA,
The most important thing is you're having fun with the gun ;), and rid of the noise :o.
When you have more time/better weather, just understand -> Taming the BAM B50 means it will run more efficiently.
It's a win/win.........less noise/more shots.  No matter what pellet you shoot, velocities between 850/950 fps should be optimal for accuracy.
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: starlingassassin on March 04, 2015, 09:07:48 PM
Hey SA,
The most important thing is you're having fun with the gun ;), and rid of the noise :o.
When you have more time/better weather, just understand -> Taming the BAM B50 means it will run more efficiently.
It's a win/win.........less noise/more shots.  No matter what pellet you shoot, velocities between 850/950 fps should be optimal for accuracy.





hey now,youre talkin like this is my first pcp or something  ;) LOL



you did touch on a few extremely good points for people new to the pcp platform who may not have known them.

1. a well tuned gun will have a flatter shot string and be more efficient.
2. keep your pellets subsonic ,preferably below 950 for accuracy.



im sure thats why the jsb monsters shot so well out of the box,
they stayed subsonic.

id like to end up with the monsters at 900-920ish,
plan on picking up some springs to play with as soon as this ghastly weather clears up some.

i think its going to be very accurate after i get it shooting how i want,
this is 5 shots at 50yds with the monsters yesterday,
it looks very promising considering the velocity is undoubtedly dropping on every shot from first to last.


(http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy218/cd15465/P_20150303_140734.jpg) (http://s793.photobucket.com/user/cd15465/media/P_20150303_140734.jpg.html)


Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: SpiralGroove on March 04, 2015, 10:48:30 PM
Oops! Chris,
Forgot you have a Condor ::)  .................My bad  :P
I'd be very happy with a dime sized, 50 yard groups 8)
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: starlingassassin on March 04, 2015, 11:21:59 PM
Oops! Chris,
Forgot you have a Condor ::)  .................My bad  :P
I'd be very happy with a dime sized, 50 yard groups 8)



no bad at all brother  ;D     

and you know what?

that right there shows the reason the GTA is the best forum anywhere.............members that are willing to help  8)



and yes i am pretty happy with the dime sized group,  minute of pigeon head suits me just fine  ;D


Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: lillysdad621 on March 05, 2015, 07:51:02 AM
u are perfectly right. just because it is a cannon from the factory it does not mean that they are not wasting air. I tuned mine down to shoot UK HFT (12 fpe) and now it shoots crosman UM at 734 fps. It has a very flat curve for about 52 shots, and it fills max to 1600 psi. I can shoot it without a MB at all in my back yard and it wont make much of a ruckus. with a MB from Daystate Huntsman is essentially a hammer drop sound, lag, target thud. It is silly accurate and has so far taken 2 nutters, one at 21 yards and the other at 54 yards. great guns...
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: SpiralGroove on March 05, 2015, 10:47:28 AM
Hey lillysdad621,
Install a regulator and I bet you get 100+ (very quiet) shots at 750 fps, going from 3000 psi to 1200 psi.
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: starlingassassin on March 05, 2015, 01:38:37 PM
my only regret is that i didnt buy 2 lol

because she's not going to let me shoot it much once I'm finished with it LOL



on a side note,wait till you guys see what im doing with it  ;D
I always try to make my guns look as good as they shoot.

i hydrodip items for myself and friends,
and she wants it done in muddy girl camo,
so im going to dip the stock/scope rings/and barrel band.

should look completely sick when its done :-D
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: lillysdad621 on March 06, 2015, 07:37:17 AM
... saving up for one...;)
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: SpiralGroove on March 06, 2015, 11:27:18 AM
Only $80 from Milo74.  More expensive and maybe better ones can be had for $120 from across the pond.
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: starlingassassin on March 06, 2015, 11:11:16 PM
well that didnt last long lol

my woman didnt hold or even mess with her gun till today,

and..........she said its too heavy and too hard to cock,


now if i could just trade it for a bottled qb79 for her LOL
i figure that would be easier for her to cock and somewhat lighter.

im not a fan of .177 or id keep it for myself.
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: Stickstoff on March 07, 2015, 12:48:11 AM
well that didnt last long lol

my woman didnt hold or even mess with her gun till today,

and..........she said its too heavy and too hard to cock,


now if i could just trade it for a bottled qb79 for her LOL
i figure that would be easier for her to cock and somewhat lighter.

I've got just the thing for her! Red Ryder, trade you straight across. I'll even throw in 5,000 BB's. :D

..if I had money for it I would have PM'd you already.
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: starlingassassin on March 07, 2015, 01:19:53 AM
well that didnt last long lol

my woman didnt hold or even mess with her gun till today,

and..........she said its too heavy and too hard to cock,


now if i could just trade it for a bottled qb79 for her LOL
i figure that would be easier for her to cock and somewhat lighter.

I've got just the thing for her! Red Ryder, trade you straight across. I'll even throw in 5,000 BB's. :D

..if I had money for it I would have PM'd you already.



now that IS tempting LOL :)


Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: bubba zanetti on March 07, 2015, 06:32:06 AM
Dang Chris, now THAT is a deal!

But I'll one up that! I'll trade you a Red Ryder, 6,000 BB's and a package of Oero Double Stuff cookies for the BAM.

PM me if interested.

BZ

p.s. My four year old opened the Oreo's and ate a few, but the others are fresh and ready for shipment.
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: Missed-Em on March 07, 2015, 09:49:34 AM
PM sent.
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: Stickstoff on March 07, 2015, 11:59:53 AM

But I'll one up that! I'll trade you a Red Ryder, 6,000 BB's and a package of Oero Double Stuff cookies for the BAM.

PM me if interested.

p.s. My four year old opened the Oreo's and ate a few, but the others are fresh and ready for shipment.

Why you....

A Red Ryder
10,000 BBs
Two NIB packages of the cookie of her choice
Bonus Japanese market Oreo cookie bars.
And, the deal sealer: A NIB Umarex 4x32 scope WITH rings!

;)
Title: Re: my b50 is now so quiet i can shoot in my apt without bothering my neighbors
Post by: starlingassassin on March 07, 2015, 01:40:32 PM
mmmmmmm stale oreos,

quite possibly the finest treat in all the land :)



as for the b50 ,ive got it up in the classifieds :)