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Support Equipment For PCP/HPA/CO2 and springers ,rams => Optics, Range estimation & related subjects => Topic started by: Shovel74 on January 29, 2015, 12:04:07 PM
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I saw a question posted on honesty in airguns that got me thinking about scope cams. I've seen a plenty of videos on YouTube shot through the rifle scope, so obviously people are coming up with different solutions on how to do it. I've sketched up a couple ideas I have had for a universal or near universal mount. I talked to somebody I know who could make them easily enough. In fact he did a 3D model for me of a couple of my ideas, but then he suggested I ask other people what they have done to mount cameras on their scopes. Not just commercial soutions, but also DIY solutions. His arguement was that there is no point in paying him machine time to make it if there is a simple solution I would like already out there.
First off I would love to see some pictures of other people's scope cam mounts whether they use commercial products or are totally or even partially DIY. A picture as seen through your camera would be cool too.
Most of those I have seen have some form of tube or baffle from the back of the scope to the camera, but a couple do not. Is that tube necessary? I can see it being needed during low light conditions maybe because scopes gather less light, but what about on bright days? Is it a camera specific kind of thing? Needed with some cameras, but not with others.
Just trying to learn here.
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http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=60391.msg578883#msg578883 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=60391.msg578883#msg578883)
My first try. A little shaky but...
:)
Reply #3 of the thread.
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http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=60391.msg578883#msg578883 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=60391.msg578883#msg578883)
My first try. A little shaky but...
:)
Reply #3 of the thread.
Is that a commercial mount setup? Mind if I ask what it cost?
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Barska...
You may find it cheaper elsewhere but the website shows $39.99.
http://www.shopbarska.com/Tripods_Mounts-SLR_Digiscoping_Telescoping_Arm_Camera_Adaptor.html (http://www.shopbarska.com/Tripods_Mounts-SLR_Digiscoping_Telescoping_Arm_Camera_Adaptor.html)
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I bought one from this place.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/823285-REG/BARSKA_AF11286_Telescoping_Digi_Adapter.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/823285-REG/BARSKA_AF11286_Telescoping_Digi_Adapter.html)
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When I first looked at the pictures I liked that Barska mount, but upon some thought it does have an awfully big visual profile with all those knobs sticking out.
I talked with Bob about the idea some, and he sent me this picture a few minutes ago based on a collaboration on my idea. (I think he was already working on the idea or something similar.) The idea is after you install it you set all the screws a little loose, mount the camera, position it, and snug all the screws. He made the bottom of the scope clamp part a little thick in my opinion. It needs more clearance on the rod side so it can swing down to get the rod level in the back but I think he captured it pretty well other than that. He told me what it would cost to make one. I could buy several Barska mounts for the price, but I might have it done anyway.
My thought is it could be mounted either left handed or right handed, and would be as in-obtrusive as practical to still allow for easy operation of the rifle.
I was hoping to see some more things other people had come up with before putting my idea out there for critique, but when Bob sent me the picture that showed my idea so well I just had to share it.
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I saw this at the show, thought it was pretty clever http://www.iscope.com/ (http://www.iscope.com/)
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I saw this at the show, thought it was pretty clever http://www.iscope.com/ (http://www.iscope.com/)
That is clever, and I bet with the iStuff still being somewhat trendy it will sell well enough.
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It was pointed out to me that my idea has some problems. Its just not going to work on some guns. Those with low mounts and one piece mounts may not have enough clearance for the clamps. On almost all guns you will have to dismount the scope to install my mount idea. One suggestion I received on another forum would make it easier to install AND easier to machine. I think I'm going to talk to Bob and see what he thinks, and how much he thinks it might reduce machining costs.
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I made my own. Only problem with scope cams is the camera is positioned where your eye should be, so you'll have to move the scope forward so you can see the camera screen to maintain proper position on the gun.
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd418/JMJinNC/Machined%20Parts/0E54AAFF-A5C4-40E1-85E1-38D1EB1C83B7-5873-00000C2084A51B81_zps27823c57.jpg) (http://s1218.photobucket.com/user/JMJinNC/media/Machined%20Parts/0E54AAFF-A5C4-40E1-85E1-38D1EB1C83B7-5873-00000C2084A51B81_zps27823c57.jpg.html)
I solved this problem by fabricating a beam-splitter box so I can look through the scope (at the normal eye relief) and see what the camera is seeing. The downside is that the image is very dark, since the light through the scope is being split between the camera and your eye (layman's explanation). If the target is in full sunlight, this was not a problem.
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd418/JMJinNC/Machined%20Parts/DF746B45-0ED4-4EAD-AE91-0A28AAE52EC5-6980-00000F541A5AF0B2_zps81611d38.jpg) (http://s1218.photobucket.com/user/JMJinNC/media/Machined%20Parts/DF746B45-0ED4-4EAD-AE91-0A28AAE52EC5-6980-00000F541A5AF0B2_zps81611d38.jpg.html)
In the end, it was a novelty that I didn't use very much.
JMJ