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Title: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: rcmark on January 22, 2015, 09:01:41 PM
You can see them here:
http://www.rlairgunsupply.com/jkhan-air-rifles/ (http://www.rlairgunsupply.com/jkhan-air-rifles/)
or
http://www.wildwestairguns.com/JK-HAN_bymfg_27-0-1.html (http://www.wildwestairguns.com/JK-HAN_bymfg_27-0-1.html)

This is the web site(not working yet):
http://jkhanairrifle.com/main/index.php (http://jkhanairrifle.com/main/index.php)

I am thinking about getting one.
Anyone have any info or opinions?

They come with the choice of two kinds of stocks.
JKHan Krosa Bullpup Walnut .25 cal
JKHan Krosa Bullpup Wood Sepatia .25 cal
Anyone have any idea of which one would be lighter?
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: starlingassassin on January 22, 2015, 09:09:44 PM
woo hoo  ;D  i like that one the best out of the pups ive been seeing

now there are 2 lower cost pups,

id probably buy this over the snowpeak p12,
it looks nicer and can get it in a .25,

i may have to pick one up, but only if it is accurate :)


the jkhan site is working for me :) at least the first gun is anyway lol
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: rcmark on January 22, 2015, 09:18:51 PM
the jkhan site is working for me :) at least the first gun is anyway lol

The Side Lever Bullpup link is not working.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Bwalton on January 22, 2015, 09:19:59 PM
I like , I like ;D but still have to wait and see performance........Great price range also
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 22, 2015, 09:28:07 PM
I wander how many parts are the same as the Evanix, they are both under the same mother company Hundai
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: rkr on January 23, 2015, 01:21:39 AM
I wander how many parts are the same as the Evanix, they are both under the same mother company Hundai

I suspect most parts are interchangeable but I haven't been able to verify (yet). If you look at the exploded diagram http://www.jkhanairrifle.com/main/images/Noblesse.pdf (http://www.jkhanairrifle.com/main/images/Noblesse.pdf) you can see that 90% of those parts look the same.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: topwaterjim on January 23, 2015, 07:14:41 PM
I can't find any shot strings for the bullpups just spec factory data. Somebody has to have shot these things before importing right?
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 23, 2015, 07:50:31 PM
They probably will be like every other Korean gun, start super HOt and than a steady downward slide, that's been the Korean philosophy all along
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: LEE IN VA. on January 23, 2015, 09:09:21 PM
R&L posted a string on Facebook the other day. A .25 straight out of the box. Still a very nice looking bull pup with a decent price tag  with a minor tune would probably be a great shooter.

 " Here is a shot string using 28.8 Benjamin Domed pellets .25 Cal 972, 962,959,946,945,937,933,926,920,912. This string was right straight out of the box untouched. Accuracy at 30 yards was very good."
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 23, 2015, 09:39:29 PM
R&L posted a string on Facebook the other day. A .25 straight out of the box. Still a very nice looking bull pup with a decent price tag  with a minor tune would probably be a great shooter.

 " Here is a shot string using 28.8 Benjamin Domed pellets .25 Cal 972, 962,959,946,945,937,933,926,920,912. This string was right straight out of the box untouched. Accuracy at 30 yards was very good."

Yep, that's a string on an Evanix .25 too, those guns really seem to be closely related :)
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: topwaterjim on January 23, 2015, 09:57:28 PM
i could hunt with a shot string like that with some tweaking. I really like the looks of the Korean bullpups over China stuff. If the build quality is as good as Evanix it could be my next gun ;)
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Bwalton on January 23, 2015, 10:02:10 PM
Thats a 60fps ES over 10 shots @30 yards... 50yards and out cant look good? but I like the power....and im sure that it can be tuned to a much better ES.
Too bad that im in the market for a .357
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: rkr on January 24, 2015, 09:40:45 AM
Thats a 60fps ES over 10 shots @30 yards... 50yards and out cant look good? but I like the power....and im sure that it can be tuned to a much better ES.
Too bad that im in the market for a .357

JKhan makes those pups in .357 as well. They are around 120-130 fpe guns and should be easily tuneable to 150-160 fpe.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Bwalton on January 24, 2015, 12:01:28 PM
Thats a 60fps ES over 10 shots @30 yards... 50yards and out cant look good? but I like the power....and im sure that it can be tuned to a much better ES.
Too bad that im in the market for a .357

JKhan makes those pups in .357 as well. They are around 120-130 fpe guns and should be easily tuneable to 150-160 fpe.

Thats good to know but at what velocity? Im looking for one to get into the 900fps range
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: topwaterjim on January 24, 2015, 10:05:01 PM
I know RL will be selling them I just wonder if Randy got his hands on one to shoot before importing?? I am afraid if I call and talk to him I may accidentally  buy one ???
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: rkr on January 25, 2015, 05:50:09 AM
Thats a 60fps ES over 10 shots @30 yards... 50yards and out cant look good? but I like the power....and im sure that it can be tuned to a much better ES.
Too bad that im in the market for a .357

JKhan makes those pups in .357 as well. They are around 120-130 fpe guns and should be easily tuneable to 150-160 fpe.

Thats good to know but at what velocity? Im looking for one to get into the 900fps range

140 fpe is 900 fps with JSBs, 158 fpe is 900 fps with 88 grain bullets.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: deucelee on January 25, 2015, 08:27:16 AM
R&L posted a string on Facebook the other day. A .25 straight out of the box. Still a very nice looking bull pup with a decent price tag  with a minor tune would probably be a great shooter.

 " Here is a shot string using 28.8 Benjamin Domed pellets .25 Cal 972, 962,959,946,945,937,933,926,920,912. This string was right straight out of the box untouched. Accuracy at 30 yards was very good."

Yep, that's a string on an Evanix .25 too, those guns really seem to be closely related :)

are you referring to the "Evanix Rainstorm 3D Bullpup" ?
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Genolution on January 25, 2015, 10:21:17 AM
A new .25 bullpup?!! Now I'm never going to be able to decide what to get. Actually, I have been looking pretty hard at the Evanix Max ML lately and I like the looks of this one better. These vendors really need to put up some youtube vids.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 25, 2015, 03:32:55 PM
R&L posted a string on Facebook the other day. A .25 straight out of the box. Still a very nice looking bull pup with a decent price tag  with a minor tune would probably be a great shooter.

 " Here is a shot string using 28.8 Benjamin Domed pellets .25 Cal 972, 962,959,946,945,937,933,926,920,912. This string was right straight out of the box untouched. Accuracy at 30 yards was very good."

Yep, that's a string on an Evanix .25 too, those guns really seem to be closely related :)

are you referring to the "Evanix Rainstorm 3D Bullpup" ?


Rainstorms are essentially the same gun regardless of the dress they are wearing :)   the new Sniper and MAX-ML are pretty much the same too, just beefed up a bit to be able to shoot the bigger calibers.

Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: microsalmo on January 27, 2015, 09:47:13 PM
... Some good news to share.  WWAG just sent me a Krosa .25 for video review.
Steve
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Tofazfou on January 27, 2015, 10:32:29 PM
I look forward to your review
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: LDP on January 27, 2015, 11:11:11 PM
R&L posted a string on Facebook the other day. A .25 straight out of the box. Still a very nice looking bull pup with a decent price tag  with a minor tune would probably be a great shooter.

 " Here is a shot string using 28.8 Benjamin Domed pellets .25 Cal 972, 962,959,946,945,937,933,926,920,912. This string was right straight out of the box untouched. Accuracy at 30 yards was very good."

Yep, that's a string on an Evanix .25 too, those guns really seem to be closely related :)

They look very close to an Evanix. I am betting they are the same rifles with some cosmetic tweaks.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Genolution on January 27, 2015, 11:12:06 PM
... Some good news to share.  WWAG just sent me a Krosa .25 for video review.
Steve
What's your YouTube handle?
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: rcmark on January 27, 2015, 11:19:38 PM
... Some good news to share.  WWAG just sent me a Krosa .25 for video review.
Steve


Could you weigh it?
Thanks,
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: microsalmo on January 27, 2015, 11:29:16 PM
I look forward to your review


Thank you Cedric... Makes 2 of us, lol
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: microsalmo on January 27, 2015, 11:29:49 PM
... Some good news to share.  WWAG just sent me a Krosa .25 for video review.
Steve

For certain.


Could you weigh it?
Thanks,
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: microsalmo on January 27, 2015, 11:33:28 PM
... Some good news to share.  WWAG just sent me a Krosa .25 for video review.
Steve
What's your YouTube handle?


http://youtu.be/56nqbHzxS5M (http://youtu.be/56nqbHzxS5M)
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Bwalton on January 28, 2015, 11:19:27 AM
Steve looking forward to the review, The gun looks nice so the only other thing that I would like to see is power and accuracy at 50 and 100 yards... also wondering if that platform would be able to transfer into a .357 or would it have to be re thought out?
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Genolution on January 28, 2015, 12:35:44 PM
Steve looking forward to the review, The gun looks nice so the only other thing that I would like to see is power and accuracy at 50 and 100 yards... also wondering if that platform would be able to transfer into a .357 or would it have to be re thought out?
I read somewhere It only has a 182cc reservoir. I hope your not needing more than a couple shots.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Bwalton on January 28, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
oh boy that is small
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 28, 2015, 01:44:10 PM
Steve looking forward to the review, The gun looks nice so the only other thing that I would like to see is power and accuracy at 50 and 100 yards... also wondering if that platform would be able to transfer into a .357 or would it have to be re thought out?
I read somewhere It only has a 182cc reservoir. I hope your not needing more than a couple shots.


It sure looks exactly like an Evanix AirTube, which are 290 cc or 300 cc
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Genolution on January 28, 2015, 02:14:06 PM
Steve looking forward to the review, The gun looks nice so the only other thing that I would like to see is power and accuracy at 50 and 100 yards... also wondering if that platform would be able to transfer into a .357 or would it have to be re thought out?
I read somewhere It only has a 182cc reservoir. I hope your not needing more than a couple shots.


It sure looks exactly like an Evanix AirTube, which are 290 cc or 300 cc
WWAG says 182 http://www.wildwestairguns.com/JKHan-Krosa-Bullpup-Walnut_p_266.html (http://www.wildwestairguns.com/JKHan-Krosa-Bullpup-Walnut_p_266.html) (edit: I do hope its larger though.)
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 28, 2015, 02:25:01 PM
Barrel length, length of the total gun if take away the extra wood in the butt are same as the Evanix, so are the power specs.
visually the air reservoir is exactly the same as the Evanix both in with and length compared to the shroud.

I don't have a gun in my hands so mine is speculation but the visual supports my claim,....could be that the retailer had a typo of some kind ? or recived some wrong specs ? it does happen with those oversees manufacturers.


Time will tell once folks get them in their hands where reality is.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Genolution on January 28, 2015, 02:48:32 PM
Barrel length, length of the total gun if take away the extra wood in the butt are same as the Evanix, so are the power specs.
visually the air reservoir is exactly the same as the Evanix both in with and length compared to the shroud.

I don't have a gun in my hands so mine is speculation but the visual supports my claim,....could be that the retailer had a typo of some kind ? or recived some wrong specs ? it does happen with those oversees manufacturers.


Time will tell once folks get them in their hands where reality is.
With any luck its a 290cc evanix tank minus 18cc for a regulator. meaning it's actually a 282cc tank instead of 182?
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: microsalmo on January 28, 2015, 02:51:07 PM
Perhaps Evanix is the assembler for the JKhan brand, and as is common, this brand will put a nice twist on things, so to speak, lol. I agree... There seems to be Evanix fiber in there.  If there is, that's just fine with me.  Kind of like with scopes and fishing reels... A few big manufacturers build most all of them.  I'm excited for the new look and potential good handling of the Korsa... we'll know soon enough. 
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Genolution on January 28, 2015, 03:00:23 PM
Perhaps Evanix is the assembler for the JKhan brand, and as is common, this brand will put a nice twist on things, so to speak, lol. I agree... There seems to be Evanix fiber in there.  If there is, that's just fine with me.  Kind of like with scopes and fishing reels... A few big manufacturers build most all of them.  I'm excited for the new look and potential good handling of the Korsa... we'll know soon enough.
Well get to it! What are you doing hanging around here? Go shoot the dang thing. lol Or how about giving us the measurements for the tank?
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Pellgunfun on January 28, 2015, 03:47:53 PM
Hi all,

Poor-man here, or cheap (&#^((&^*.  Feel free to take ya pick.  Lol.



I like the looks of it, and it seems promising.  However, still WAY to much for my super tight air rifle budget.

I just wish my shot groups were as tight as my budget, then we'd be talking:-)  Hehehe.

Maybe when the last of 3 kids moves out, but she's only 3 1/2 right now:-)  It'll be a while.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: microsalmo on January 28, 2015, 07:00:25 PM
Perhaps Evanix is the assembler for the JKhan brand, and as is common, this brand will put a nice twist on things, so to speak, lol. I agree... There seems to be Evanix fiber in there.  If there is, that's just fine with me.  Kind of like with scopes and fishing reels... A few big manufacturers build most all of them.  I'm excited for the new look and potential good handling of the Korsa... we'll know soon enough.
Well get to it! What are you doing hanging around here? Go shoot the dang thing. lol Or how about giving us the measurements for the tank?

Lol, don't have it yet.  I think WWAG shipped itnyeaterday.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: topwaterjim on January 29, 2015, 11:06:47 AM
Nice,  please keep us up to date ;D
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: JimmyBobby on February 11, 2015, 05:04:16 PM
Anything new to report here?
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Tyrantblade on February 11, 2015, 09:14:17 PM
The nobless in walnut looks like it was assembled and finished as good as an AA s510, but at like  $500 less, my only question is will the noise be as quiet as a fully shrouded barrel should be.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on February 12, 2015, 12:24:12 AM
Nope,...it's Korean
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Tyrantblade on February 12, 2015, 09:49:13 AM
Nope,...it's Korean
that means they don't know how to make an effective shroud? If they only copy hatsan they'd have a very effective one.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on February 12, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
It means they actually have their own philosophy in building airguns, Short length, Power and light weight.

There's tons of aftermarket LDC's out there you you wanna make it Quiet,....and by default longer, there's no escaping Physics.

Shrouds/LDCs are not rocket science everyone can make them. the principle is simple,....Koreans choose to keep the package short with a minimum of baffles.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Tyrantblade on February 12, 2015, 06:32:23 PM
Isn't a rainstorm more powerful than 40 some FPE (WWA says .22 is 40+ FPE, thought a rainstorm was like in the 50-60 area).

shouldn't this mean the shrouded JKhans will be more quiet than the Evanix range?
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on February 12, 2015, 06:45:44 PM
Yep power is always a factor in noise, that's why the 30 FPE guns like the Marauder are so quiet,...barrel length is a factor too, longt barrel are way quieter than shorter.
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: rcmark on February 17, 2015, 09:28:06 PM
Anyone have one yet?
Comments?
Title: Re: JKHan Krosa Bullpup .25 cal
Post by: microsalmo on February 17, 2015, 11:37:27 PM
Not yet! Still haven't arrived so far as I understand.  Am eager to get to it!
Steve