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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: garyroopan on January 13, 2015, 10:56:46 AM
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Which of the air rifle is better in overall quality, accuracy adn power . The Hatsan MOD 125 sniper vortex or the Benjamin Trail NP XL 1500
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Neither in .177-cal, because both are throwing most pellets way too fast unless you go with heavy pellets.
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Neither in .177-cal, because both are throwing most pellets way too fast unless you go with heavy pellets.
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NP rather than NPXL.. My old/sold NPXL 1100 was the most hold sensitive rifle I'd ever shot..
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I have the coil spring version of both. I really like them both and have worked them over big time to get them the way I want. Turned the Benji SS from .177 to .22. I like the hatsan a little better bet everyone else who shoots them both with me likes the Benji. That said the Benji has parts that you can get easier and much cheaper. It took a tenth of the work to get the Benji right. My Hatsan [WFH] still isnt done.
And x2 on what the other guys said. I could get the .177 to shoot ok but not nearly good enough.
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They can both shoot very well with 10 grain pellets. Anything 8 grains or lower is too light. 13 grain is too much. Because they're 177, you cant go much higher than 10 without running into piston bounce and power loss.
I would go with a Hatsan if I was to go for an uber magnum 177 springer, which I wouldn't recommend. Mainly because it will take more work to make the Benjamin as reliable. The trigger on the Benjamin will need to be replaced, the Hatsan's Quatro trigger will perform well with some cleanup. The barrel pivot washers on the Benjamin will need to be replaced, that Hatsan's washers just need cleaning and moly. The crown on the Benjamin barrels tends to be rough and often needs cleanup or recrowning, the Hatsan crowns tend to be pretty well done and need nothing, or some light polishing.
As for things like piston seals, internal cleanup, smoothing, and the like, both stand to benefit a lot from receiving attention in these areas.
As far as overall quality goes, I don't see much difference at all. About the only thing I'd give the Hatsan the nod to quality wise is their wood stocks, which aren't available on 125's.
The 125's tend to produce a little more power than the Benjamins.