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Title: that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet
Post by: Duckfish on October 24, 2014, 10:18:13 AM
HW45, P1, P11.

Best balance of any pistol I've owned, fits my hand perfect, trigger is crisp. Accuracy is superb.  Smells lots a truck stop when you shoot it.  What!

After researching these guns I found they are prone to diesel far longer than an ordinary spring gun.  It has something to do with the type of piston seal Weirauch uses in them.  They even are supposed to be dry fired to seat the seal.  Well this one is no exception. No matter it is big fun to shoot. 

Duck

Title: Re: that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet
Post by: amb5500c on October 24, 2014, 11:53:05 AM
That one is really easy to look at too.
Richard
Title: Re: that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet
Post by: K_sqrd on October 24, 2014, 02:05:31 PM
Nice pistol and fun to shoot. Don't know if you've run across this link yet. It has lots of info on the 45.

http://my.tbaytel.net/coopers/HW45Review/review.html (http://my.tbaytel.net/coopers/HW45Review/review.html)
Title: Re: that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet
Post by: Duckfish on October 24, 2014, 06:00:20 PM
Yes I read that It was part of my research on the gun.  That dude was very thorough.

Duck.    :o

Check this out, it addresses the PTFE piston seal.


https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/01/does-dry-firing-damage-airguns/ (https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/01/does-dry-firing-damage-airguns/)


And this link too


https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2008/03/spring-piston-seals/ (https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2008/03/spring-piston-seals/)
Title: Re: that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet
Post by: K_sqrd on October 24, 2014, 06:24:35 PM
Thanks for the link. Hadn't seen that one but read a couple of others which mentioned the Dry Fire in order to
form the Teflon seal. You're right about the truck stop smell - even after a tin or two of pellets. Fun pistols to shoot.
Title: Re: that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet
Post by: Duckfish on October 24, 2014, 06:58:17 PM
K squad, which one do you have? 

We need a picture.  I understand you can get 1911 grips and they fit.  Any experience there?


Duck
Title: Re: that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet
Post by: Motorhead on October 24, 2014, 07:04:19 PM
Ed,
Great find !!
Had a Beeman P1 for near 25 years ultimately selling it in 2013 due to raising funds for other AG exploits.
Yup great shooters once you move past there shear size which is quite large !!
Title: Re: that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet
Post by: palonej on October 24, 2014, 07:18:38 PM
Sweet looking pistol Fishy!!!
Enjoy!!
Title: Re: that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet
Post by: Duckfish on October 24, 2014, 08:08:56 PM
Thanks Sparky, thanks Scott.

I really find the P1 frame to be very manageable.  Very good balance and it fits just right.  Kinda like a custom fitted Stetson.

How come I don't see any pistols on your list of beautiful guns Sparkey?  You ain't scare of no pistol are you?    :'(




Duck
Title: Re: that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet
Post by: wimpanzee on October 28, 2014, 10:49:33 AM
I really love my p1.

I originally got it as a .22, but swapped to a .177 barrel. It shoots a little flatter, and no longer diesels. If I put the .22 barrel back in, it will still diesel a little - this is after 2 years about over 1000 pellets.

Mine like meisterkuglen 7gr the best. I can hit a beer can at 25 yards offhand about 8/10 times. It is a wonderful plinker!

I also originally put a millet sp-1 dot sight (2 MOA dot!) on it. After extensive testing, it was no more accurate than open sights - and without the dot it balanced much, much better.

I've been through a couple 1911 grips. One was a rosewood with rubber fingers (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KOVND4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1), but it never sat quite right due to the screws heads not fitting the wood quite right. I ended up going back to the original walnut grips with a rubber insert  (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002INNYU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1). These work very very well for me.
Title: Re: that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet
Post by: Frank in Fairfield on October 28, 2014, 02:07:56 PM
Ed,
Great find !!
Had a Beeman P1 for near 25 years ultimately selling it in 2013 due to raising funds for other AG exploits.
Yup great shooters once you move past there shear size which is quite large !!

Ditto. Had one of the first ones. Traded for a FWB65 which I traded for a HW55T.
Good gun for garage shooting...