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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: safrole on September 10, 2014, 02:53:06 PM
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Hi, I have a hatsan 125 sniper and I put 2 drops of RWS air chamber lube right into the hole and then shot the gun in a safe direction and it had a pretty good detonation. you think i did any damage?
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It probably did.
Not a good/safe thing to do.
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Not good, but you should be OK. I would use some heavy pellets to help burn of the excess oil. You should detach your scope until it goes away.
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Today we have no need for chamber lube, that's a throwback from the days of leather piston seals drying out, requiring a wetting agent to maintain functionality. Modern synthetic piston seals don't dry out or require relubing to soften 'em up as they never dry up! ;)
Throw that stuff away or sell it. Hope it didn't do permanent damage.
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how can I tell if it did permanent damage? reduced velocity? I don't really want to have to disassemble anything.
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You'll notice a change in sound and recoil. Pellets will fall short of targets or hit lower and below what use to be zero. Shoot some long rang targets, zero shouldn't have changed, let us know! :P
Check and ' if necessary, carefully tighten the stock/aLL screws '. The harsh recoil of detonation can shake screws aloose. I did the same chamber lube thing to my RWS34P without any 'Ka Boom'.
Don't remember exactly what I did to my Crosman G1 Extreme, but it went off like a shotgun and blew a cloud of smoke.
Scared the cra_pout of me, didn't have the nerve to shoot it again for several days, it did bang a couple more times. ???
Now I remember, sprayed Birchwood Casey moly lube through the cocking linkage slot onto the spring, didn't wait long enough for the liquid to evaporate. ???
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reduced velocity? I have a chrony....
Update : I just did like a 10 shot spread and it seemed like my velocities were right around the same as they were before which is about 970ish with a 14.3 grain pellet. My chrony took some friendly fire though :(
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reduced velocity? I have a chrony....
Yes, the chrony will tell the rest of the story. Velocity loss or deviation/inconsistencies.
You're good to go. Been there, done that, as everyone else, requardless whether they admit it. ;) :D ;D
I hope it's still functional?
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oddly it does seem to be shooting a little low but im not using the same targets or firing range that I was when I sighted it in. regardless the velocity seemed to be pretty much unchanged. oh well I don't want to screw my gun up but I would rather have a pcp gun anyway.
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As the others have said not a good idea to do on a modern springer. Some of these so called "chamber oils" might not be highly flammable in liquid state. But under compression and misted oil and grease burn rather well. Works on the same principles as a diesel engine. It sure didn't do it any good but the OEM piston seal is so hard anyway it would take a few times to do real damage to the seal. So now you know...note to self..do not put any flammable/combustibles in the chamber.
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reduced velocity? I have a chrony....
Update : I just did like a 10 shot spread and it seemed like my velocities were right around the same as they were before which is about 970ish with a 14.3 grain pellet. My chrony took some friendly fire though :(
You may have had minor lubricants that ignited when you first starting with your chrony on the new rifle. They all generally "settle in" and so that's more what I'd look at. If you cleaned it well and have broken her in...look at those numbers as a better base point.
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Hi, I have a hatsan 125 sniper and I put 2 drops of RWS air chamber lube right into the hole and then shot the gun in a safe direction and it had a pretty good detonation. you think i did any damage?
If you only put in two drops you didn't damage the gun. You should watch some of Rick Eustler's videos about break barrel guns and maintenance. You should use a little chamber lube every thousand shots or so and dieseling for a few shots after that is normal. Don't over use it because it can damage your gun and never fire it without a pellet in it. Don't even shoot a cleaning pellet through it because it's not heavy enough. There is such thing as "To much of a good thing."
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Watch the "Take AIM Episodes"
When I use chamber lube in my guns including older ones with leather seals I put a few drops in and work the action back and forth just short of cocking the gun and then let it sit for a few days or even a week so it soaks in real good. I have this luxury because I have a lot of guns and not shooting one for awhile doesn't matter. Also after a good cleaning a spring gun is not going to hit the same spot it did before. I don't shoot paper until I have a hundred shots through it. Your rifle not hitting the same spot as it did before you put the chamber lube in makes sense so don't worry about it. Shoot some cans or what ever you can find off hand for awhile and then see what you have.
The point of impact changes with my guns depending on high or low air pressure. During the summer when a thunderstorm rolls through and the temperature cools off 20 degrees it make's a difference. So understand that accuracy with air guns is more complicated than with powder burners and it takes more work.
Bryan
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well I just did like a 20 shot string and got a pretty good average on it. It came out to 955fps with a 14.3 grain pellet. with 28.9 FPE
The last time I checked my gun I think it was still relatively new and it has shot at least 500 or so shots since then. Maybe it has just gotten to the breaking in point.
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Yeah, you have a tin through it now. Another cleaning of the barrel won't hurt. Don't need to strip it,,, but a patch or 2 with cleaner, and some dry ones, may help dress it off without removing the lead that has imbedded. You're definitely getting her broke in now! EDIT: How's she grouping for you? Hope it's great for you!
:D Keep shooting!:D