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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: System13 on September 05, 2014, 12:07:07 AM
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I need to hear your advice on which rifle to get.
Let me tell you what I think, and then you tell me where I've gone wrong, and how to get right.
I want a gently used air rifle. I can spend up to $300.00 but will go up to $500.00 if it includes accuracy tuning and/or a scope on .
I hunt Munks of the house of Chip and I need to make head shots so accuracy (aspirin to dime) is MOST important to me.
Nearest neighbor quarter mile away. Quiet is cool, but not a requirement. The ability to add a muffler sounds nice though. Munk Death Whisperer has a certain cachet to it
I LOVE the idea of PCP but until someone comes up with a sub-$200 electric compressor, they are a total no-way.
No hunting with air rifle anticipated, I have a 22. Marlin Golden 39 and a Savage 17hmr but my wife works her garden while I'm depesting, I shoot monks perched on railings near the house and nearby are my chickens, so I'd prefer .17 pellets
I'm 55 and needing readers so a scope is required and I don't trust a break barrel to return to zero 100% of the time for years of use.
20 years in the Army, so my hold is deep muscle memorized, so prefer low hold sensitivity.
Quality is important to me, I plan on passing this onto a future grandson, so I don't want Chinese. They have quality control constancy issues. One is great, then the next one, same model, same company, is not
To recap
gently used air rifle $300.00 - $500.00
No hunting, only Munk depesting.
Aspirin Accuracy over everything
Quiet is cool, but not a requirement
Not interested in a PCP that doesn't include an electric compressor.
Scope needed
.17 preferred
Break barrels not preferred
Yes to Quality, No to Chinese
Lower hold sensitivity.
Is there even a rifle that meets all this?
Now let the suggestions begin (at least nice suggestions)
Thanks
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Benjamin 397 or Blue Streak (20 cal.) Just a thought.
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Typical shot distance requirements?
And why all the discounted standard fare? You have physical limitations?
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To stay on the cheap, depending on range, you may consider a multi-pump with a rifled barrel or a CO2 carbine. Either would have good accuracy at close range. I don't know how far they'd shoot accurately.
You stipulated no Chinese and no break barrel. Gamo is (generally) Spanish and Hatsan is Turkish. They are less expensive than English and German and I believe both offer a fixed barrel. For that matter, there is the Russian IZH-60 family.
You may be able to find an "heirloom grade" airgun in your price range. I paid $425 for a used, no frills Air Arms TX 200. Any tuning needing done, I did. I also had to procure my own scope and mount. Used rifles generally include neither. You might wish to shop for a Weihrauch HW 57, 77, or 97. All are fixed barrel under levers.
I guess the real "sleeper" in fixed barrels is the Diana RWS 48. The starting price on them new is $450 from Pyramyd Air and the shipping is free.
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You can get a new RWS48 for $377 from AoA.
http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/rws.html (http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/rws.html)
Too bad you don't want a break barrel because an HW30 / R7 or HW50 would be be a good choice.
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HW30 with a Pyramyd Air 10% discount may be something you might be happy with.
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Shooter, you should take a hard look at the Crosman (made in the USA) Discovery. It can run on HPA or CO2. The co2 setup is pretty cheep using a paint ball 20 oz tank and gear. You have the options as you go along of using HPA, adding a noise suppresser, etc. a lot of the upgrades you can do yourself for little or no$. You should be able to find a used or a refirb for &150. To $175. Say another $50 to $75 for a co2 paintball bulk set up and you have plenty leftover for a good scope and plenty of pellets.. I know co2 is not great in temperature extremes but in WI you don't get that many +90 degrees days.
FWIW
Judd
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Thanks one and all, some times even a blind squirrel finds a nut. For all my research I came across a RWS Diana 48 in .177 with 500 pellets through it, all papers, and an attached RWS scope for $300
She matches most of my requirements, and I'm looking forward to her delivery.
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RWS 48 with a Vortek spring kit and you are there.
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benjamin discovery or maybe check with mike melick at flyingdragonairrifles.org it will likely be pushing $500 by the time you have a means to fill, scope, pellets etc. look here in the classifieds and check on the yellow classifieds as well. you can find discos used occasionally, scopes, pumps, and even tanks. :)
there is currently a disco in the classifieds with pump now. be a cinch to change it to .177. parts form crosman are inexpensive and easily obtained. likely needs orings, cleaning and lubing anyways. all well with in your budget :)
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How about a Hammerli 850. co2 I have gotten 60 this year of the chippers with mine. Made in Germany . LW barrel, 8 shot clip. Downside is cold weather with CO2 but the Chippers if you in a cold climate but the chippers hibernate. Short trips outside with it are ok , I keep mine warm inside and will take it out in the winter some times. Great nutter getter too if you keep shots 30yds or less. Take a look at the review https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hammerli-850-airmagnum?m=913 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hammerli-850-airmagnum?m=913)