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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Brutuz on September 02, 2014, 05:12:46 PM
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I live in the Europe and bought it from a Polish company http://www.sztucer.pl (http://www.sztucer.pl)
Payed 349 Polish Zlotty's incl shipping to the Netherlands, that's about 110 US $
I've read your US friend(s) at http://www.mrodair.com (http://www.mrodair.com) will sell these soon....
First impression: not bad at all
Did a quick unboxing video when I returned from work today http://youtu.be/drjugDxoOA8 (http://youtu.be/drjugDxoOA8)
After that 3 unrecorded shots, and chronied next 10 shots (30 sec pause between shots):
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Finaly had the time to make two more vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaSX5FwrlZw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaSX5FwrlZw#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-h3Gt13dbk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-h3Gt13dbk#)
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Cool stuff Bert 8)
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Thanks RB 8)
Did a bit of target practice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owu7uO9yqqk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owu7uO9yqqk#)
Am curious what US owners think of this pistol once Mrodair rolled these out
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Nice shooting and gun. I hope Mike at Flying Dragons picks these up. I would like one in .177. Would be even better if he gets them in the PCP version that I heard might be coming out
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i see a hipac on its future... and some serious pcp fun... maybe a carbine stock that attaches to that nice wood grip... ideas, ideas...lol
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Thanks Brutus,lovely handgun. Lots of potential there. To me the grip is crying out for stippling, I've got my Dremel and carbide ball mill ready. Should cost less than half of what I paid for my Crosman 2300S Silhouette pistol and shoot as good or better. I wonder if the triggers will need as much work as the Crosmans?
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Trigger is fair as-is, I think a polish of the mating surfaces + a bit of moly grease will help a bit, but no potential of becoming a match-trigger modded out of the box using the factory components
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What's the price on these in the States?
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What's the price on these in the States?
He hasn't released the price yet.
I think he is mucking with them to see if a hpa conversion is feasible. On another note, he has the S400, which looks to be a P-17 all steroided out.
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Ahh. Well I'll just have to check in often...
I have a sample 400 coming. To say that I'm excited about that might be today's biggest understatement. ;D
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I did some testing of a .22 at PA, very accurate at ten meters with RWS Hobby pellets, chrony in at 480 with hobby's and 450 or so with real weight pellets...the grip takes some getting used to as it's a broken wrist type...trigger guard is really small but should be fixed when they arrive for sale. trigger will take a polish and shoot nice but needs some machine work to go to a two stage set up...
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Thanks for sharing Mike 8)
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Hey Guys,
We have the CP-1 in .22 on our next order.
Received a few as samples, and we are having a few tweaks done to them for production.
They really nailed the design.
Needs a trigger adjustment, and the trigger guard re shaped.
All aluminum breech and muzzle break already installed.
Ordered a bunch, to get a great deal.
We will have more info on when we can expect them, what they update, and final pricing real soon.
Alot of pistol for the money.
Stay tuned
We Are Mrodair
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Nice shooting and gun. I hope Mike at Flying Dragons picks these up. I would like one in .177. Would be even better if he gets them in the PCP version that I heard might be coming out
As a fairly new FDPCP (GENII-->I, bottle conv.)owner,
the minute I saw this thread I thought; "PCP IT!
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Hey Guys,
We have the CP-1 in .22 on our next order.
Received a few as samples, and we are having a few tweaks done to them for production.
They really nailed the design.
Needs a trigger adjustment, and the trigger guard re shaped.
All aluminum breech and muzzle break already installed.
Ordered a bunch, to get a great deal.
We will have more info on when we can expect them, what they update, and final pricing real soon.
Alot of pistol for the money.
Stay tuned
We Are Mrodair
anything more on these ? price ? are they available in the USA yet ? if not , ETA ? any changes done/expected ?
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the last I heard was waiting on the factory...
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Hey Guys,
Just to chime in.
We are waiting on the factory to give the word.
Already had the samples for a while now and ordered several hundred of these.
I'll be sure to let Mike know when we get our shipping paperwork from SPA.
Pretty excited about these.
The wait is largely in part from our ordering both the .22 and .25 caliber at the same time.
Production is catching up, but slowly.
Just a heads up.
Thanks Guys
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What kind of speeds are you expecting out of the .25?
Will there be any .177s?
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What kind of speeds are you expecting out of the .25?
Will there be any .177s?
I hope there will be a .177. I WANT ONE!
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In the price range Brutuz got his, I definetly would buy one, probably two.
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dang ! the checkering on the stock certainly dresses it up a bit .
(http://www.the-shooting-party.co.uk/images/stories/virtuemart/product/co2.jpg)
i'mn guessing that's a option for a lil more money .
and it looks to have dovetails .
(http://www.the-shooting-party.co.uk/images/trophy/79fb6577-1f58-4741-a159-011c988d6ee3.png) (http://www.the-shooting-party.co.uk/images/trophy/dad5e77c-cee4-4fe6-9bf7-2243c45f8793.png)
http://www.the-shooting-party.co.uk/products/airguns/airforceone-afo-15-afo-16-sidelever-air-rifles-in-177-4-5mm-72-detail (http://www.the-shooting-party.co.uk/products/airguns/airforceone-afo-15-afo-16-sidelever-air-rifles-in-177-4-5mm-72-detail)
will different cal. barrels be available separately ?
when the muzzle break is removed is there enough barrel left to add a lead dust collector ?
barrel diameter ?
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WOW, almost $260, that would have me ordering a CCS 2300kt with LW barrel, and Walnut target grips for less $, and they will engrave it for free. That CP 1 is pretty, but not that pretty.
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I live in the Europe and bought it from a Polish company http://www.sztucer.pl (http://www.sztucer.pl)
Payed 349 Polish Zlotty's incl shipping to the Netherlands, that's about 110 US $
i thought it'd be much cheaper than $260 USA . :(
where'd you get the $260 price from ?
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I looked up the exchange rate for £159.99 to US currency, $259 and change. Hopefully mrodair will sell it close to the price Brutuz got.
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yeah... suddenly it lost is luster... 260 buckeroos will build one nice crosman custom... or get me close enough to a crosman silhouette.
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yeah... suddenly it lost is luster... 260 buckeroos will build one nice crosman custom... or get me close enough to a crosman silhouette.
Afraid I have to agree.
HPA'd @.25cal - and tuned, at that price - only maybe.
And stlll way too close to the price of a disco or a repeater custom 2540+(-DIY.)
Rod
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I looked up the exchange rate for £159.99 to US currency, $259 and change. Hopefully mrodair will sell it close to the price Brutuz got.
You can't really predict a price that way. Due to VAT, legally mandated warranty terms and consumer protection laws prices in the UK are going to be higher than in the states. Plus their are market differences, from what the average buyer will pay to how many units are sold each year.
As an example:
£152.99 AKA $230.86
http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/product/9452d976b96bb50265438535/Gamo+Camo+Rocket+Whisper+IGT+-a-8-f-322+Standard+Barrel/ (http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/product/9452d976b96bb50265438535/Gamo+Camo+Rocket+Whisper+IGT+-a-8-f-322+Standard+Barrel/)
Almost the exact same gun, just a different stock, but same Gamo Rocket and IGT: $189.99.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/gamo-rocket-igt-air-rifle-camo?m=2763 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/gamo-rocket-igt-air-rifle-camo?m=2763)
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Pricing on the CP-1 will not be near that much in the USA guys.
Yes, there are alot of import fees ect.
This is why we wait for them to clear customs before releasing our pricing.
Still, we have imported from them a few times and I can tell you with confidence they will be priced right.
Hoping to get the word soon.
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That's good news!
I for one will be excited to hear from both MRA and Mike, on pricing -
most especially of an HPA'd version..
Rod
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Pricing on the CP-1 will not be near that much in the USA guys.
Yes, there are alot of import fees ect.
This is why we wait for them to clear customs before releasing our pricing.
Still, we have imported from them a few times and I can tell you with confidence they will be priced right.
Hoping to get the word soon.
Any news on when they will be available?
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FINALLY !!!
THE CP-1
Here is the news guys.
We were sent a sample of these and as with the P-12, we insisted on some changes.
I know its taken a bit to get these over here, but I think you will agree it is worth the wait.
The prototypes, had horrible non adjustable triggers as reported by Brutus and others.
We modded up a trigger and sent it to SPA and they incorporated it into their design.
They just released the new version for us. The CP-1M
Not only do they have a new trigger with sear adjustment, they have our multi shot conversion installed.
Even better news, they are still no where near the European price point.
We are told these will be here in May
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considering you may get them in may... what is going to be the price point? I imagine that by now you know since that is about a month away... will they also be available in single shot?
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I agree, multi shot isn't what I want in a target pistol, the extra cost would be wasted. Hope they come in single shot, at a lower price. The adjustable trigger on the other hand is great.
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Looks like a bulk fill setup, any plans for 12g or pcp?
Edit
Never mind on the 12g. I found a South African forum thread that says they're 12g guns.
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I live in the Europe and bought it from a Polish company http://www.sztucer.pl (http://www.sztucer.pl)
Payed 349 Polish Zlotty's incl shipping to the Netherlands, that's about 110 US $
I've read your US friend(s) at http://www.mrodair.com (http://www.mrodair.com) will sell these soon....
First impression: not bad at all
Did a quick unboxing video when I returned from work today http://youtu.be/drjugDxoOA8 (http://youtu.be/drjugDxoOA8)
After that 3 unrecorded shots, and chronied next 10 shots (30 sec pause between shots):
Why did I post this topic in the Chinese gate?
SPA / Snow Peak Airguns http://www.china-airrifle.com (http://www.china-airrifle.com) (There's more on their website than discussed on the GTA)
Shaoxing Snowpeak Air Gun Factory, was established in 1976, specialized in manufacturing guns (ammo) for civilian use approved by the Ministry of Public Security of the People’s Republic of China.
The company locates in the Yangtze River Delta area, with no more than 2 hours drive from Port of Shanghai, Port of Ningbo, Shanghai Airport, Hangzhou Xiaoshan International Airport, and China Commodity City in Yiwu.
The company’s outlook is to develop into a leading shoot equipment manufacturer worldwide.
At present, the company has 10 series with more than 30 specifications of airgun products, and owns several patents.
The company also cooperates with internationally well-known airgun brand, and is rich in mature OEM experiences with strong design and R&D team, the first-class quality control system and testing equipments.
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I have the single shot .22 version on order from Poland for £64 / $95 delivered and there is a schematic on the SA forum about how to modify the trigger to make it nicer. 8)
http://www.airrifle.co.za/threads/38170-Snowpeak-SPA-CP1-Pistol/page10 (http://www.airrifle.co.za/threads/38170-Snowpeak-SPA-CP1-Pistol/page10)
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This topic should be moved back to the Chinese gate, darkside is OP, this pistol isn't
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This topic should be moved back to the Chinese gate, darkside is OP, this pistol isn't
Unless Spring or gas piston powered the thread is where it needs to be PCP ,CO2 and pumpers
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I just ordered a CP1-M from MRodair in .177. I cannot wait to get this little gem. 9 round mag and single shot tray ;D
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Have you seen my topic about that pistol in the China gate? Made a few video's about it too.
Enjoy your new pistol !!
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Watching the videos right now on YouTube. I did a search but only found this post. I will look in the china gate
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Cheers Rob
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Brutuz,
Great videos on the CP-1M. I linked to them on our website.
We got the CP-1M page done and posted on our website just this morning.
Thanks Brother.
We have received our paperwork and title to the container of CP-1M headed to the US and it is well on its way.
The ship is due to make the US port in just 8 more days on the 28th.
A day or two going thru customs and 3-5 days transit to our shop and these will be shipping out to our customers here.
Since we have documentation in hand, we have them listed for pre sale on our website as of yesterday for 129 bucks, including one mag and the single shot tray. Extra mags are well under 20 bucks.
I know they sold out very quickly in Europe, and judging from the number of orders so far, it will be time to reorder very soon.
We have several hundred in this shipment in 177 and 22, with a bunch of spare mags.
Just wanted to post a heads up here on the GTA and Thank you personally as well as our customers for your support.
We Are Mrodair
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Cool! I am a little unclear....will these be offered in a PCP configuration?
Thank you!
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Thanks Michael glad these are about to be shipped to US customers
Please check this topic too http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=90982.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=90982.0)
Msurf this is a hpa pistol SPA makes http://www.china-airrifle.com/products_detail/&productId=45e95652-4b73-4207-9052-1e564f567061.html (http://www.china-airrifle.com/products_detail/&productId=45e95652-4b73-4207-9052-1e564f567061.html)
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Surprised I hadn't seen this thread before, that is a great looking pistol!
I am interested to see what mods come out in the next few months after everyone receives their gun and has time to play with it. 8)
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Me want One.
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Will you be selling them as pcps?
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Me want One.
Order it's landing state side soon
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Talked with a member of my airgun group on facebook AIRGUNS-R-US He works with Mrod-Air. He said they should arrive within the week. They will have .177 and .22 calibers. They are the newer model CP1-M. He did give me a price with shipping, but I do not know if that is for the general public or not?? Probably is, as I'm nobody special....lol Anyway thought you all wanted an update.
P.S. If you are on Facebook request to sign up. We have an active group. We have a passion for not only the intermediate and seasoned airgunners but the beginners and novices as well. We'd like to see you at AIRGUNS-R-US
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Talked with a member of my airgun group on facebook AIRGUNS-R-US He works with Mrod-Air. He said they should arrive within the week. They will have .177 and .22 calibers. They are the newer model CP1-M. He did give me a price with shipping, but I do not know if that is for the general public or not?? Probably is, as I'm nobody special....lol Anyway thought you all wanted an update.
P.S. If you are on Facebook request to sign up. We have an active group. We have a passion for not only the intermediate and seasoned airgunners but the beginners and novices as well. We'd like to see you at AIRGUNS-R-US
MRodair is running a special until the end of the month. $139 shipped
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Well,
Yes and Yes.
We have them available for pre sale for 129 plus 10 bucks shipping.
Includes one mag and the single shot tray too.
Spare mags are 16.95 and are made of aluminum as well.
Capacity of the magazine is 9 shot in 177 and 7 shots in 22
Pcp parts, upgrades, carbine kits and ALOT more are coming in August.
Waiting just a few more weeks, allows us to sell these at a much more attractive price than producing the parts ourselves.
We ordered several hundred of these and they are going fast. VERY FAST.
No doubt they will be sold out before the next shipment arrives, so keep that in mind.
This is not an untested design.
We have turned down 3 prior prototype versions, redesigned many of the components until the bugs were worked out and this is the result.
You will not be disappointed.
Our shipment ETA into port, is the 2nd of this month and after customs and shipping to our shop, we expect to have these headed to our customers by the 10th-15th of the month without issue.
Thanks to all our Airgun customers patience and support, we have increased our buying power and influence in the manufacturing process and are now able to order custom built airguns directly and offer this pistol for less than the price of an aluminum breech mod alone for other similar types.
Our direct link to more info is here.
http://www.mrodair.com/hot_new_product_mrodair_cp1m_pistol (http://www.mrodair.com/hot_new_product_mrodair_cp1m_pistol)
And a direct link to this special offer is here.
http://yhst-139878093962642.stores.yahoo.net/mrcpmushco2t.html (http://yhst-139878093962642.stores.yahoo.net/mrcpmushco2t.html)
We are here to stay guys.
We Are Mrodair.
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I am really interested in this as a pcp...with this platform, would I be able to assemble a .25 cal hpa with the parts coming in august?
Thank you for offering this!!
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I went ahead and ordered one a few days ago ::) . I've never had a CO2 gun and this looked like one I would like. And the price was certainly right! I got it in .177 cal since I have a stockpile of pellets I use with my other guns. I am excited to see how this pistol performs!
If there will be a conversion kit to HPA for this gun, I will be very interested in that.
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I went ahead and ordered one a few days ago ::) . I've never had a CO2 gun and this looked like one I would like. And the price was certainly right! I got it in .177 cal since I have a stockpile of pellets I use with my other guns. I am excited to see how this pistol performs!
If there will be a conversion kit to HPA for this gun, I will be very interested in that.
I got 1 in .177 also Rob. We should meet up and do some pellet testing.
Any word on these yet? Are they in MRodair's hand yet? Hopefully shipping soon. I like a kid on Christmas Eve night LOL
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I went ahead and ordered one a few days ago ::) . I've never had a CO2 gun and this looked like one I would like. And the price was certainly right! I got it in .177 cal since I have a stockpile of pellets I use with my other guns. I am excited to see how this pistol performs!
If there will be a conversion kit to HPA for this gun, I will be very interested in that.
I got 1 in .177 also Rob. We should meet up and do some pellet testing.
Any word on these yet? Are they in MRodair's hand yet? Hopefully shipping soon. I like a kid on Christmas Eve night LOL
Sounds like a plan! I am fortunate in that I am going to be out of town until the 14th... Hope my wife doesn't intercept it while I am travelling. :o
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I went ahead and ordered one a few days ago ::) . I've never had a CO2 gun and this looked like one I would like. And the price was certainly right! I got it in .177 cal since I have a stockpile of pellets I use with my other guns. I am excited to see how this pistol performs!
If there will be a conversion kit to HPA for this gun, I will be very interested in that.
I got 1 in .177 also Rob. We should meet up and do some pellet testing.
Any word on these yet? Are they in MRodair's hand yet? Hopefully shipping soon. I like a kid on Christmas Eve night LOL
Sounds like a plan! I am fortunate in that I am going to be out of town until the 14th... Hope my wife doesn't intercept it while I am travelling. :o
I know that scenario all too well. Good luck
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As promised, they have already cleared customs and will be here by the end of the week guys.
Just transferred to the truck that's headed directly to the shop today.
Pics of our first HPA mod will be posted tonight or tomorrow, depending on how much I get done today.
There are still a few days left on the pre sale pricing.
Once they get shipped to our vendors, we must respect the retail pricing.
The presale, is our way of getting these in the hands of our customers quickly and allow us to report feedback for future mods.
Thanks Guys
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Playing around with a simple regged HPA bottle mod from parts around the shop.
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Color me excited! I am definitely looking forward to this. Thanks for the update!
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It is my pleasure gentlemen.
The HPA upgrade, is very simple.
We manufacture an end fitting to replace the CO2 cart and end cap, then there are many inexpensive methods to put the combo together.
Paintball, drop forward adaptor, tank, reg and braided or other hose and there you go.
No limit to how you mod these after getting the simple adaptor.
Will have these puppies in our hands by the end of the week.
Thanks Aagain
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What PSI was the regulator set at? What caliber? Any chrono test?
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Hard to believe you guys don't play with paintball regs.
From 350psi, to 3000 psi regs are inexpensive.
Standard, set pressure, and adjustable are available and everywhere.
That's why I choose this simple approach.
Our 850psi regs for instance are just over 20 bucks and perform great with the existing CO2 tune.
Added power, negates the difference in fps from 177 to 22 and shot count is thru the roof.
Tanks from 13ci to 21ci for volume. (The 13cu makes for a perfect 14.5" LOP)
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Well Gentlemen, today is the day.
The CP-1 multi shot pistols, have been sitting in a trucking terminal for far too long now and although not the fault of the trucking company, we have waited long enough.
I have sent my daughters fiancée, to retrieve the shipment personally and they will be at the shop this afternoon without fail as promised.
Until recently, I have been running Mrodair, with the assistance of my faithful fox hound Max.
Last week, my daughter and future son in law have decided to move to town and build themselves their first home and work for ole dad.
As you can imagine, I'm pretty happy about that.
At any rate, my new found assistant, volunteered to drive to Memphis and collect our shipment and is on the road as I type this message.
In only a few hours, we will have our shipment and start testing and shipping more than 100 from our pre sale offer.
This is giving me, an opportunity, to stay at the shop and run the HPA mod components you guys have asked for and from the looks of things around here, our future production schedule will be accelerated to get more mods completed and to you much more promptly.
You will be receiving your new CP-1M pistols during the coming week, as they will leave here via USPS on Monday.
Thanks Again to those who have supported Mrodair and purchased our new products.
We Are Mrodair
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Excellent. Thank your future Son in law for me. Have an awesome weekend
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Congrats 8)
My pistol came without a manual, got the attached manual by email from the factory, if your shipment has boxes without manuals, this attachment might be usefull to the new owners
http://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByNMxgtYD2IkZTFRZFhVNUZMLUU/view?usp=sharing (http://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByNMxgtYD2IkZTFRZFhVNUZMLUU/view?usp=sharing)
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Congrats 8)
My pistol came without a manual, got the attached manual by email from the factory, if your shipment has boxes without manuals, this attachment might be usefull to the new owners
http://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByNMxgtYD2IkZTFRZFhVNUZMLUU/view?usp=sharing (http://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByNMxgtYD2IkZTFRZFhVNUZMLUU/view?usp=sharing)
Thanks. Downloaded and saved just in case
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Thanks Brutus,
Just got our shipment today.
No instructions.
I'll post the link on our website tonight.
We had a few tweaks done to the new CP-1m and I noticed your later model had the longer grip.
We spect them 10mm longer than the original, which was a bit shorter than the new version.
Also, had them drill and tap the new trigger so we can install a simple set screw, to adjust sear
Engagement
They are shipping out Monday
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Thanks Brutus,
Just got our shipment today.
No instructions.
I'll post the link on our website tonight.
We had a few tweaks done to the new CP-1m and I noticed your later model had the longer grip.
We spect them 10mm longer than the original, which was a bit shorter than the new version.
Also, had them drill and tap the new trigger so we can install a simple set screw, to adjust sear
Engagement
They are shipping out Monday
Will that set screw be included when shipped? If not do you know what it is tapped to so we can pick them up?
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Thanks Brutus,
Just got our shipment today.
No instructions.
I'll post the link on our website tonight.
We had a few tweaks done to the new CP-1m and I noticed your later model had the longer grip.
We spect them 10mm longer than the original, which was a bit shorter than the new version.
Also, had them drill and tap the new trigger so we can install a simple set screw, to adjust sear
Engagement
They are shipping out Monday
Will that set screw be included when shipped? If not do you know what it is tapped to so we can pick them up?
sounds like it to me
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I ordered one today to try out in 22 cal. Shot strings and accuracy posts to follow. ;D
edit: buyers remorse on caliber .... mrodair was kind enough to call me back and let me change to a 177 cal instead of a 22. kudos to them for taking the time to call me back and look for my order to make the change. I hope to get it by next week
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Mine just got dropped at work. Shooting at lunch. So much for eating today
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CP1-M arrived this morning. This pistol looked real good in the pictures and utube vids, but it is even better now that I have my hands on it. It appears to be flawless. It has a left hand bolt, which I prefer but did not expect to get. It is all perfectly finished wood and metal - no plastic except for the clear cover plate on the magazines. The body of the mags are all metal and have a magnet to keep them in place. The trigger is very good and I think adjustable. The single shot adapter is all metal and also has a magnet. I am very happy with this purchase. :)
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;D Can it be converted to PCP ?
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Thanks brother,
We changed these a lot from the original design shipped elsewhere.
Mrodair, has the ability to work directly with the SPA engineers, to help our first production runs to have much less "beta testing" being done with our customers.
Just a few changes were.
Longer grip
Aluminum magazine
Trigger modded with drilled and tapped hole, for installation of sear adjustment screw.
(They did exactly as I asked, but I forgot to spec the screw length)
I will post the size for any who wish to do the mod and a nickel at the local bolt store will do the job.
(Should be 3mm socket head set screw)
We did have to forego the checkering, as the die was already made for the smaller grip and looked weird on the full sized version.
(Believe me guys, the grips were WAAAAAY TOO SHORT)
Bolt handle was swapped, so there is no reaching across the top, or changing your grip hand to cock the multi shot version after each shot.
Shot tray, was a bit flimsy in plastic and only a buck fifty to do in alloy.
Just the little things.
Made about 4 bucks difference in the price, but will save a bunch in mods later.
Give us about 3-4 weeks on the HPA mod and we will save you some money there too.
Can't wait to see what you guys build these into.
If you need anything, just give me a shout.
The number on the website, is my cell phone.
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One of these landed in my hot lil hands today as well.......sitting on my desk...almost looks like an art piece!
DJ
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Thanks DJ,
They are very well built.
I have been playing a bit with the trigger to find the proper adjustment screw.
The trigger, has a long pull from the factory and they did drill them for an adjustment screw to adjust the sear engagement.
They just left out the screw. Wah wah wah
Anyway, the screw, is a 3mm standard set screw, 5mm long.
I just ordered a couple hundred and will have them available for any who would like one.
To make it quick and easy (and cheap) any who would like and don't have local access to these fasteners, you can simply send us a self addressed stamped envelope and I will stick you one in there and head it back your way.
They are tiny, so any size envelope will do.
One of several ways to go about it, but just thought this would be easy for everyone (including us) and get these puppies dialed in with little to no expense.
Meanwhile, I will be working on a video, to show simple install and adjustment, for a light crisp trigger for under 50 cents.
Yes we do things a bit different, but always for better product support.
Thanks guys
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Mine showed up as well. I am pretty happy with it. There are a couple of light scratches on the barrel. Looks to me like the scratches may have been from installing the barrel (not from shipping). Hardly noticeable and frankly not a big deal to me. The finish is in otherwise perfect shape and I like the satin finish on the receiver. The muzzle break is a nice touch and the front and rear sights are very adjustable. Note that there does not appear to be a safety.
I did take a few shots with the single shot tray. The bolt likes to slide around after the hammer is cocked and will close on you if you point the barrel down to load a pellet. Everything functions perfectly with the magazine in place and is probably the way most will want to shoot this gun, so again, not a big deal.
Accuracy seemed pretty good with 8.44gr JSBs (mine's in .177), and I even managed to stack a few shots standing with a two-handed grip at about 10 yards. I did not notice any difference in accuracy between single and magazine fed shots. The magazines are really well made (I bought 1 extra). It was getting dark but I took about 40 shots and it seems like the CO2 cartridge is still going strong.
Pretty impressive little package for the price. Can't wait to get a string over the chrony and see what the numbers say about this gun. I definitely had a good time with it this evening!
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Right on mrodair!
Will you be offering a conversion kit or a turn key HPA/PCP? Will you offer .25 cal?
Thanks!
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Thanks Guys,
Yes, yes, and maybe.
Many new products coming at the end of August.
CO2 rifle variant of the CP-1M in 177 and 22
PCP rifle variant of the CP-1M in 177 and 22
Before then, a complete HPA mod for the CP-1M
And shortly after, an all new swivel breech match pcp regulated pistol
AND
a complete line of match barrel blanks in 24 and 28"
Some of this stuff we already have here and are prototyping for production already.
Going thru some growing pains for a bit as we never expected the response to be so great.
As long as we have customers like you guys, I will make sure they do their part and make em right.
Thanks Again
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mine arrived today and they did change it to a 177 as I asked in my phone call.
shot a few over the chrony and 4.06 FPE is what it showed for the 4 shots I took. basement temp is 72 degrees
gun feels nice in my hand. I cant wait to sight it in and put it to work as a short range starling gun.
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I have had to work (and will work the rest of) the weekend, but have gotten home early enough today to continue shooting on my first CO2 cartridge. I estimate that 40 to 60 effective shots can be taken on a single cartridge. I am not familiar with CO2 guns (this is my first) but that seems to be a respectable shot count (using the size of the cartridge as a model). I just have no time this weekend (nor next) to get this guy over the crony to see what's what.
That said, what fun a gun to take out and shoot. The Mrod is a bit of a production with the pump and all when it comes to setting up an impromptu shooting session. My 397 needs a trip to Mac1 ASAP, but this thing is a good time for those moments when you just need to send some lead down range without a lot of drama. It is accurate and seems to make the most of its power source.
Quite pleased with the purchase. This is the first pellet pistol I have had since I was a kid and it is fun, for sure. It brings me back to the days of target pistol shooting in my youth, which I never really missed until this showed up on my doorstep.
Thanks again MrodAir. This was a really good deal! ;)
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Thanks Brother,
I have really enjoyed working on the CP-1M multi shot project, but it is not perfect.
It gets better.
The trigger pull on the CP-1M, is still a bit long and has some drag.
The trigger is drilled and tapped for the proper screw, but it was not included from our contracted supplier.
I have sourced these and they are being sent to all of our CP-1M customers in just a couple of days.
A simple screw to install and then the Mrodair CP-1M trigger can be adjusted to just a few ounces and very crisp as I promised them to be.
All future Mrodair CP-1 Multi shot pistols will have these installed before they ship.
If there are any other suggestions, we are always interested in making a better product.
Thank you Again for your support.
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Well, I ended up with some unexpected free time yesterday and decided to shoot a string over the chrony. I recorded 50 shots, but actually fired about 60 (there were a couple of errors that the chrony did not record). I also suspect that I may have double loaded the gun for the 300FPS reading. Readings were taken with about a 30 second pause between shots, except where I had to reload the magazines (which took a couple of minutes).
fps
478.7
486.06
485.87
496.75
489.84
495.29
500.97
496.37
503.53
503.57
499.73
498.61
497.65
506.2
503.09
499.03
497.3
509.94
507.46
511.19
507.03
516
510.47
515.98
508.74
510.54
512.16
516.44
511.6
512.51
510.34
507.58
300.87
506.76
505.53
504.62
498.18
495.41
495.78
498.14
492.71
513.07
509.08
507.18
506.39
494.54
501.15
489.1
487.1
475.99
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Rob what pellet were you using. I have been having too much fun with this pistol to even start testing. Numbers look nice though
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I was using JSB Exact 8.44gr pellets. It seems to get pretty tight after the first few shots, although (as expected with CO2) it will drop off if you shoot too quickly.
One of these days we'll need to meet up and have some fun!
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I was using JSB Exact 8.44gr pellets. It seems to get pretty tight after the first few shots, although (as expected with CO2) it will drop off if you shoot too quickly.
One of these days we'll need to meet up and have some fun!
Sounds good to me. I have a bachelor pad through Wednesday this week. Can shoot out to 30 yds in my back yard. I have a couple of field targets and spinners. And a pellet trap to shoot paper
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I just installed the allen screw for the trigger that I received from Mrodair. Wow! What a difference! No accuracy testing yet, as work has been keeping me away from shooting this month. But I have a day working from home tomorrow and may have a chance to play around a bit (just don't tell the boss).
With the screw at its lowest adjustment, it takes a very light, yet deliberate squeeze to set it off. I don't have any reasonable way to measure the pressure required, but it really surprised me during a dry fire to make sure it was assembled correctly. Not a hair trigger, but definitely light and crisp, There is none of the creep that it had before. It will take a little while to get use to, but should prove to be a great improvement.
Thanks, Mrodair! You are definitely standing behind your product and certainly providing top notch customer service. Much appreciated!
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Mine's here also, do you think it would be beneficial to round off the end of the screw? Get rid of the cup point. Regards, Tom
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I ordered one in .177 based on what I read here. I have seen the pistols with the bolt on both the right side and the left side. Since I shoot pistols with my left hand I sent an email requesting one with a bolt on the right side.
Never got a reply or tracking number. Gun did show up yesterday at my door step with the bolt on the LEFT side. Guess I will be switching hands to load then shoot.
Loaded up a CO2 cartidge, nice feel to the gun. Shot the first pellet went to put the bolt back and it stuck halfway back. Took about 5 minutes messing with it to finally un stick it. Happened again 4 shots later. Took about 2 minutes to unstick it.
Box did not have an owners manual with it so I had to go online to figure out how to load the pellets in the magazine. It did shoot the full magazine without a problem with the bolt. I will put it across the chrony and see what happens. The gun I think has some fun factor to it barring any future problems.
Ed
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I have one in 22. It came with a defective magazine, wouldn't chamber the pellets without jamming. Don't bother trying to get mrodair to send you a replacement. I sent mine back 6 weeks ago, and they still haven't sent me a replacement. I have sent 4 emails and they won't respond to them either. They also have some false advertising going on. The pistol you see on their website is not the one you will receive.
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I have one in 22. It came with a defective magazine, wouldn't chamber the pellets without jamming. Don't bother trying to get mrodair to send you a replacement. I sent mine back 6 weeks ago, and they still haven't sent me a replacement. I have sent 4 emails and they won't respond to them either. They also have some false advertising going on. The pistol you see on their website is not the one you will receive.
Tim I see you had the same experience I did with them. Non responsive to anything. I would not buy anything from them again. I still have some issues with the bolt hanging up at times which is too bad because it could be a fun little pistol. It has good shot counts at decent FPS when your not being frustrated with the bolt and magazine. I call it a $150.00 learning lesson or a $150.00 door stop.
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Guys,
We test the mags.
They do not feed wad cutter pellets well thru the mags, unless the throat is opened up.
That is what the single shot tray is for.
Never seen a need for wad cutters except for paper punching and never seen a serious paper shooter use a mag.
The mags feed round and pointed pellets great.
Having said all that, we have had a few that were drilled off center a tad and replaced them.
Any returns or exchanges were sent to the original invoice address without exception and were limited to 6 mags total from over 200 sold.
No where can you buy a pistol with these features for any where close to the price.
Any issues can be simply addressed by return for refund or exchange.
We respond to all inquiries, except those who continually ask the same thing multiple times to illicit a different response.
This is all done by myself personally, so there is no guess work involved.
To avoid delays, please include your invoice number, address, and phone number.
After over 1000 orders these are difficult to look up.
Thank you
As for the bolt issue, these are for right handed shooters and if the bolt were on the other side, you would have to reach over the breech, magazine and scope (if equipped) to cock the pistol.
We do offer ambi breech mods for lefties, as I myself am left handed.
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Guys,
We test the mags.
They do not feed wad cutter pellets well thru the mags, unless the throat is opened up.
That is what the single shot tray is for.
Never seen a need for wad cutters except for paper punching and never seen a serious paper shooter use a mag.
The mags feed round and pointed pellets great.
Having said all that, we have had a few that were drilled off center a tad and replaced them.
Any returns or exchanges were sent to the original invoice address without exception and were limited to 6 mags total from over 200 sold.
No where can you buy a pistol with these features for any where close to the price.
Any issues can be simply addressed by return for refund or exchange.
We respond to all inquiries, except those who continually ask the same thing multiple times to illicit a different response.
This is all done by myself personally, so there is no guess work involved.
To avoid delays, please include your invoice number, address, and phone number.
After over 1000 orders these are difficult to look up.
Thank you
As for the bolt issue, these are for right handed shooters and if the bolt were on the other side, you would have to reach over the breech, magazine and scope (if equipped) to cock the pistol.
We do offer ambi breech mods for lefties, as I myself am left handed.
Here...I'm gonna ask a third time (you've failed to answer in 2 emails). When are you shipping the promised front sight spacer and longer cap screw for the CP-1M short range sighting problem?
Here is Mrodair's post addressing the sighting problem and the fix they said they would send out...this was on July 22
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/message/1437582793/It+gets+better.+We+also+are+including+a (http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/message/1437582793/It+gets+better.+We+also+are+including+a)
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I note the picture in your ad still shows a pistol with checkered grips and right hand bolt. I believe you should change the picture to reflect what you are actually selling. I was happy with the left hand bolt because I am right handed. You should probably (in my opinion) modify the breech for all the left handed people that bought the pistol based on the picture.
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Has anyone (Mike? Eric?) done anything about PCP'ing one yet?
Is the barrel replaceable?
Rod
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I note the picture in your ad still shows a pistol with checkered grips and right hand bolt. I believe you should change the picture to reflect what you are actually selling. I was happy with the left hand bolt because I am right handed. You should probably (in my opinion) modify the breech for all the left handed people that bought the pistol based on the picture.
Exactly my point!!! And the fact there is absolutely no communication as stated:
Guys,
We test the mags.
They do not feed wad cutter pellets well thru the mags, unless the throat is opened up.
That is what the single shot tray is for.
Never seen a need for wad cutters except for paper punching and never seen a serious paper shooter use a mag.
The mags feed round and pointed pellets great.
Having said all that, we have had a few that were drilled off center a tad and replaced them.
Any returns or exchanges were sent to the original invoice address without exception and were limited to 6 mags total from over 200 sold.
No where can you buy a pistol with these features for any where close to the price.
Any issues can be simply addressed by return for refund or exchange.
We respond to all inquiries, except those who continually ask the same thing multiple times to illicit a different response.
This is all done by myself personally, so there is no guess work involved.
To avoid delays, please include your invoice number, address, and phone number.
After over 1000 orders these are difficult to look up.
Thank you
As for the bolt issue, these are for right handed shooters and if the bolt were on the other side, you would have to reach over the breech, magazine and scope (if equipped) to cock the pistol.
We do offer ambi breech mods for lefties, as I myself am left handed.
Here...I'm gonna ask a third time (you've failed to answer in 2 emails). When are you shipping the promised front sight spacer and longer cap screw for the CP-1M short range sighting problem?
Here is Mrodair's post addressing the sighting problem and the fix they said they would send out...this was on July 22
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/message/1437582793/It+gets+better.+We+also+are+including+a (http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/message/1437582793/It+gets+better.+We+also+are+including+a)
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I wasn't using wadcutters mrodair, I was using rounded. Where is my replacement magazine, you've got my defective one? It's only been 6 months?
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Was thinking of getting one. gracious.
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Was thinking of getting one. gracious.
Don't be discouraged. The pistols are nice, it's just the people you're buying them from don't exactly hold up their end.
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Was thinking of getting one. gracious.
Don't be discouraged. The pistols are nice, it's just the people you're buying them from don't exactly hold up their end.
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Was thinking of getting one. gracious.
Don't be discouraged. The pistols are nice, it's just the people you're buying them from don't exactly hold up their end.
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Do you use pellgun oil with this CO2 pistol? The CP1M manual makes no mention of using that oil when inserting a CO2 cartridge.
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I have. Just a drop or two on the seal of the co2 before inserting. Not something I do every time.
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I have. Just a drop or two on the seal of the co2 before inserting. Not something I do every time.
+1 same here
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Thanks. I use it with my other CO2 guns; will do so with this one as well.
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I have no interest in a multishot pistol, is anyone offering the original CP1 single shot pistol in the US? I don't want to pay the extra money for the multishot one.
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The multi shot version comes with the single shot tray.
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The single shot CP1 costs less than $100, why pay the extra $$$ for something I don't want? I will just be happy with my Crosman 1740, I might even put a Lothar Walther barrel on it and forget about the CP1 all together.
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I agree with you, I would never buy something that I don't want. Enjoy the rest of your day and happy shooting. ;)
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I've had mine a bit over a month. External fit and finish is quite good; internal I'm not so sure yet. The trigger is really nice: crisp and light enough to really emphasise how poor the Crosman 2300's (my only bolt action comparison) stamped POS is.
Minor gripes: it seems that loctite didn't get applied to the bolt handle (no big deal) or the valve retaining screw (moderate deal.) The grip is way oversize for me and needs some serious attention with rasps and such. Fifty shots from a powerlet is about it. The bolt bounces out of battery when fired;I haven't done a tissue test yet to see if it's getting blown out or if it's just recoil.
Major gripe: this shoots rings around my Crosman 2300 custom shop, literally. My Crosman stacks pellets reliably at 20 feet; the CP1M has trouble getting 2" groups. I suspect it's due to the unfinished leade and really finicky pellet loading regardless of shape or type of hold; haven't put it in a vice get but none of my rest techniques seems to have any effect on poi. I'm hoping all it needs is polishing, but I'm putting that off until I get spare seals. I also haven't rechecked the valve screw since I had the grips off last time, so that may be contributing.
I'm hopeful but not yet convinced that this will come up to at least Crosman standard.