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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: Mikeflys on August 26, 2014, 09:15:18 AM
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Disco .22 900fps 259.99
Scuba tank 199.99
scuba yolk 59.99
Alowance for scope 150.00
total budget 664.93
RWS 48 .22 900fps 449.95
Alowance for scope 150.00
total budget 559.95
Both guns are single shot. From what I have read the RWS would be potentially more accurate. Disco would not be affected by cold weather, but I'm not sure how much effect cold would actually have on a springer. Anyone out there own both and could give me some real world comparisons?
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Add a Vortek spring kit to the RWS 48 for about $85 including shipping and make it even better and you are still under the Disco budget.
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Don't stress over it too much. You'll have both eventually. Flip a coin.
Richard
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A 54 RWS may have the possibility of being more accurate than a Disco but in most peoples hands the 48 will not even come close to a Disco in real effectiveness in the field.
Some salesman has omitted the fact that springers are a very tough beast to tame and they will be half as accurate as a PCP in most peoples world. By cutting the power level in half of the Discos output you could get a fairly gutless gun to be relatively accurate, but it will still not be anywhere close to the Disco in real field use
The big deal to me is after market service which must be done with aftermarket parts or you need to send your gun to Umarex to be serviced.
The world seems to ignore the fact that the Dealer base that had developed the Diana service network for 40 years has been turned on and they can no longer GET Diana Parts. To get a factory gun serviced you must send it to Arkansas to be worked on at the distributors service standard.
I discontinued the Diana line-up the moment they denied me parts as I only sell what I can back and service. The advantage to Umarex was they could rest assured they will not get warrantees back from me because I do all the work. The disadvantage they had to selling parts to experienced smiths was they lost that retail business.
Comparing Springers to PCP's from the Data available on the internet will have you shooting yourself in the foot. 54's are recoilless and sell for more than a 48 but would be a far more reasonable comparison. Look at FT Hunter Data and results to see 54's can play but 48's don't.
TimmyMac1
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Another factor to keep in mind is the weight difference between the two rifles. The Disco is much lighter. On the other hand, the T-06 trigger on the Diana is considerably better than an unmodified Disco trigger.
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Thank you TimmyMac1 for you input. That is very good info to consider. I am aware of the learning curve and difficulty level of a springer. At least in theory. I was not aware of the service issues. Thats why I posted my question, to learn what I can from folks with real world experience. I have looked at the 54, the rail system it uses to remove recoil is interesting but my concern was if dirt or grit were to get in there crawling around out in the desert. It would be a bad thing. I will look a little closer at a Disco, or maybe a Mrod.
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Another factor to keep in mind is the weight difference between the two rifles. The Disco is much lighter. On the other hand, the T-06 trigger on the Diana is considerably better than an unmodified Disco trigger.
Very good point. An M-rod is 10 lbs scoped up in wood configuration and the 54 will make that seem light. The Disco will not go over 7.5-8 lbs no matter how much junk you pile on. It is the featherweight carry gun. The Brake I add is 3.5 oz and makes it almost as tame as an M-rod. Disco pays with small shot count because of small diameter tube and low pressure use. Upside is it gets GOBS pof fills from a Tank as it only needs 2100 PSI.
TimmyMac1
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Purchased 2 springers in 12 months then decided learning to shoot a springer is not for me. Just got a hatsan at44-10 pcp after doing a lot of research. I love this thing. Out of the box extremely accurate w crosman 22 cal premiums. Stock trigger is superb and very adjustable w Allen wrench.
Chose it over an mrod or disco because it is a 10 shot repeater and needed no mods to shoot good out of the box. So far the gun performs as the reviews stated. Fantastic. It is loud, but I got an ldc for it (screws right on) and now its damng near silent.
Wish I would have gone this route a year ago
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That Hatsan in walnut is a pretty gun thats for sure!
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MROD .25 with the Green Mountain barrel. Kill shots at 105 yards. :) Did I mention the trigger? Outstanding. The only other PCP that I have shot that I loved is the Condor, third Talon Pistol forth .357 Recluse and forth would be the Disco. What do I know, I am a springer guy. :)