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Title: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 17, 2014, 02:02:14 PM
Hello everyone, I am currently having a little trouble deciding on a new air rifle to plink with. I currently have a Gas Ram XS46u from Mike but find that shooting it is a workout due to the cocking effort and just weight of the rifle. I am thinking of getting a HW30S or a Tuned XS12 from Mike. With PA's current Coupon I can pick up the HW30s for under 300 but it is out of stock until the 30th. I can get the XS12 for about $100 less, is the Rekord worth the extra cash?
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 17, 2014, 02:04:50 PM
I should add that I had an Air Arms TX200 that I really liked but I just didn't like the overall weight of the rifle. I loved the low cocking effort, quality, and accuracy I was able to get with the rifle.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Booger on August 17, 2014, 02:08:59 PM
Since I bought the R11, all I can suggest is Weihrauch even over the TX200 which I love.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: JimL911 on August 17, 2014, 02:13:23 PM
YES! You won't regret getting the 30S.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 17, 2014, 02:22:23 PM
Thanks for the replies, I figured the quality difference would be worth it. How are the iron sights on the HW30s? I want to try and keep from scoping it as long as possible so I can teach my wife and daughters to shoot irons.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Not The Brightest Bulb on August 17, 2014, 04:10:48 PM
Well I have both and there is no comparison, Weihrauch 30s for sure.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: JimL911 on August 17, 2014, 04:16:42 PM
The sights are very good. Put a Williams sight on and you will have a fantastic light gun.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Calmark on August 17, 2014, 04:18:54 PM
I've shot both rifles.  I'd go for the HW30 for sure, even though it costs more.  For me, the Rekord trigger makes enough difference to make the ease of shooting make me instantly forget the extra money spent.  ;D
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 17, 2014, 06:08:11 PM
Thanks again everyone. I have been reading tons of reviews and haven't really found a negative one on the Weihrauch. I went ahead and put my order in to take advantage of the $50 off coupon, it says they should be in stock on the 30Th so I'm hoping that I will be shooting it in a couple of weeks. I almost jumped on the R7 instead since it's in stock but I really want the iron sights.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 17, 2014, 06:09:50 PM
Jiml911, which williams sight are you speaking of? Is it a peep sight?
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 17, 2014, 06:11:18 PM
I also ordered the cocking lever insert that way I can get it installed and avoid any issues.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: RatRacer on August 17, 2014, 06:13:17 PM
You'll love it. I thoroughly enjoy mine, and is all out fun. Where in FL do you hale?
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 17, 2014, 06:21:33 PM
Daytona Beach.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: RatRacer on August 17, 2014, 06:43:49 PM
Daytona Beach.
What's the guest accommodations like? I'll load up the 30, and my waterwings, for a "practical" experience trial session. ;)
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 17, 2014, 06:50:36 PM
Haha, the guest accommodations are slim sadly but i'm sure we could set you up. It would be nice to have a fellow air rifle enthusiast around. I have a lot of friends who are into powder burners but the second I bring out an air rifle that cost over $200 they talk about how a good .22lr would be more practical.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Not The Brightest Bulb on August 17, 2014, 07:30:42 PM
Good choice, enjoy.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: JimL911 on August 17, 2014, 08:26:02 PM
This is the sight. http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/WilliamsGunSights.html (http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/WilliamsGunSights.html)
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 17, 2014, 08:28:49 PM
Jim, thanks for the link. I think that may be the way to go instead of scoping the rifle. I like the challenge of the iron sights.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Brazos on August 17, 2014, 09:31:35 PM
I got an HW30S from PA back in January.  When I ordered mine the website said they were out of stock and it would be 2-3 weeks but I had it 2-3 days later.  So who know.  The sights are excellent.  The rifle is excellent.  Buy some JSB RS 7.33 grain pellets when you order the rifle.  If yours turn out like mine it will shoot the lights out with that pellet.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 17, 2014, 09:35:50 PM
Brazos, thanks for the recommendation on the pellets. I think I have some of those laying around from when I was trying to find a pellet the TX200 liked.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Petey on August 18, 2014, 12:40:53 AM
30s .....quality will never bite you in the backside.

I have shot the X12- No thanks..

Happy Shootin !
Petey
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Not The Brightest Bulb on August 18, 2014, 05:13:40 PM
Brazos, thanks for the recommendation on the pellets. I think I have some of those laying around from when I was trying to find a pellet the TX200 liked.

You may find that more than one pellet will do the job nicely.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: tjk on August 18, 2014, 05:41:20 PM
 "I have a lot of friends who are into powder burners but the second I bring out an air rifle that cost over $200 they talk about how a good .22lr would be more practical."  Don't feel bad if you feel sorry for them. They just don't know any better ;) If you haven't placed the order for the 30 yet, it wouldn't hurt to reconsider a slightly larger caliber like the .20/5.0 mm. One thing I've learned over my Airgun journey is this. Better quality guns aren't near as pellet picky as lower end airguns. Then again I may just be lucky with my rifles. Congradulations on making your decision to go with the HW.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 18, 2014, 10:13:45 PM
It has been ordered already in .177 caliber. I have like ten or more tins of pellets laying around that I want to shoot up. I had my hopes up that it would ship today but it says its back ordered. I hate the waiting game because I get impatient, although I think the wait will be worth it. I am kind of wondering if AOA has one in stock. :D
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Brazos on August 18, 2014, 10:32:54 PM
You made a wise choice.  Mine will shoot very good groups with most any pellet.  I just happened to buy some JSB RS 7.33 grain pellets just to have in my stash in pellets to try.  I have to say my 30 loved them.  My first 10 shots at 20 yards was an 1/4" outside to outside group, one small ragged hole.  It was very easy to obtain and keeps shooting those pellets like that.  I almost wonder if my 30 with that pellet is not the most accurate rifle I own.  I ended up using the rifle and pellet combo to shoot a small FT match a few days later and cleaned up.  It was amazing. 
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: RatRacer on August 19, 2014, 12:08:17 AM
I concur,  that the JSB's do very well. The 7.33 and 8.44 do very well with mine also. The CPHP's I'm using for break in actually ain't doing too shabby either, so this puppy is not too pellet finicky, as noted.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 21, 2014, 08:06:07 PM
Still waiting on the rifle but I am starting to think about scopes to put on it if I decide to go that route. I like decent glass so I am thinking a weaver rv7 or rv9. Do any of have any other suggestions, I would like to stay under $250 for the scope if at all possible.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: chiro972b on August 21, 2014, 08:15:56 PM
if you don't need mil dots, Nikon 3-9x40 EFR rimfire scope is brilliant and is under $200. Lightweight too.
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on August 26, 2014, 09:01:50 PM
My rifle showed up today. I will say that it is a handy little thing.

Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Petey on August 26, 2014, 10:32:19 PM
Enjoy!



Petey
Title: Re: HW30S or Fully Tuned XS12
Post by: Jd10ac on September 04, 2014, 08:58:33 PM
My little HW30 made a new friend today (CZ Slavia 634). I have to say that I am really digging this rifle. I like the sights and the stock seems to fit me a little better than the 30.

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn298/gunlover24/0904141940_zps64f83c41.jpeg) (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/gunlover24/media/0904141940_zps64f83c41.jpeg.html)