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Airguns by Make and Model => Weihrauch Airguns => Topic started by: Ramble on August 10, 2014, 02:50:06 PM
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Hey guys,
I have ordered the HW50 in .22 and while it hasn't arrived yet, I have been reading all I could about it. I just came across an article that described it as very 'Twangy' in comparison to other airguns and now I am kinda worried. I have an R10 in .20 and a FWB124 that has had a tune by Jim Macarri. Both are a real pleasure to shoot. I was hoping to get a nice shooter out of the box with the HW50. I may be a little premature here, before I even get a chance to shoot it but I thought I would ask anyway. I am sure some of you guys have shot the 50 before, How is it? Am I going to have to send it off? I am not up to taking a new airgun apart.
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Welcome Ramble
Don't have the HW50-22 but I'm gonna bet that you are gonna love it.
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Thanks Bulb,
The HW was sent to my brothers house in Dallas by mistake. He has been shooting it for almost a week now and says he will send it on when he finishes "testing" it. I think he has harvested a couple of fox squirrels by now. He just has to get them to fall and his rat terrior administers the Coup de Gras (with a lot of embellishments), if they have a last kick left. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
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Thanks Bulb,
The HW was sent to my brothers house in Dallas by mistake.
Hello?
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Nice air guns you have there. I do not have a HW50 but shot one in .177 with a Vortek kit. Awesome gun.. So nice that it will be my next springer. Welcome to GTA..
ps. Post some photos in German Airgun Gate when it arrives.
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The 50S is a great mid powered gun. Highly accurate. Can't help you with the twang. I don't shoot from the box.
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I had one. Yes, mine was a bit twangy out of the box, but not so much that I felt the need to have it tuned. The twang lessened after it started to break in. It shot great and it was extremely accurate, but with my aging body I just got tired of the often reported high cocking effort.
Getting all preachy: Like the overwhelming majority of shooters, I don't generally get my guns tuned (I got one tuned 25 years ago). I assume a bit of twang is just part of the deal and don't even think about it.
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Ramble, To answer your questions from your message. Yes, I found that mine was more of a buzz than twang out of the box. After a tin plus it was still there. Having put a Vortek kit in my D34 and realized the vast improvements that are gained. I ordered up the stock power kit from Vortek. The gun was very accurate from the get-go but with the kit installed it is a real pleasure to shoot. Smooth and quiet. I like it better than my D34 and is a close to the TX200. It is smaller/lighter than the other two and just as accurate. Making it just a blast to shoot. Fit and finish is closer to the TX than the D34. Real nice. I did the Vortek myself and when opening the gun it was soaking wet with oil/grease. Worked real smooth though. It was just the buzz I wanted to get rid of. I have attached a picture of yesterday's target. I only have 20 yards in the backyard. I'm sure it is good beyond that. After the kit the chrony numbers I'm getting are almost exactly what Straight Shooters got with the pellets I have on hand. It loves JSB Exacts 8.44! As does the TX and 34. I know you are going to love it. Scott P.S. Lower right target was last shot. Started losing focus. My fault not the guns. It's a lot better than I am.
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Thanks Bulb,
The HW was sent to my brothers house in Dallas by mistake.
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Hey Gringo,
Yeah, its an unusual situation. I live in New Orleans, Brother is in Dallas. He bribed me with a new Benjamin Maurauder in .25 and included the pump to come over had help him move into a new house. I jumped at it but after returning home, found I didn't really like the Maurader. I told the tech at PA to send it to my house since it was a gift. Obviously the shipping dept didn't get the word. I didn't want to just return it for credit since it would just go back on to his card so I picked out the nicest springer I could find.
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Thanks Bulb,
The HW was sent to my brothers house in Dallas by mistake.
Hello?
Hey Gringo,
Yeah, its an unusual situation. I live in New Orleans, Brother is in Dallas. He bribed me with a new Benjamin Maurauder in .25 and included the pump to come over had help him move into a new house. I jumped at it but after returning home, found I didn't really like the Maurader. I told the tech at PA to send it to my house since it was a gift. Obviously the shipping dept didn't get the word. I didn't want to just return it for credit since it would just go back on to his card so I picked out the nicest springer I could find.
Im confused you and your brother share the same user name and account on GTA?
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I have a 50s in .22, untuned, came to me virtually new, and it is a pleasure to shoot. It is not broken in yet, but shoots so well there is no need to take it apart. makes my R1 seem like a cannon, lol. Enjoy, tk
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I have an R11, while it is more accurate than my fully tuned TX200MK3 it does have a lot of spring noise, and has a little kick. After the tune I know it is the gun for me. Now I am considering selling most of my collection in a big sale. I am even considering selling my 25 year old fully tuned (by Gene) UK Tomahawk.
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Isn't the HW50s a bit underpowered to shoot it in .22 I reckon ? No offense here, just my first thought..
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It wasn't my choice of caliber. It shines in .177.
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Isn't the HW50s a bit underpowered to shoot it in .22 I reckon ? No offense here, just my first thought..
I wondered the same when I ordered mine but it shoot 650 fps with Silver Bear pellets and the accuracy makes up any pwr problems. I'm glad I got the 22 vs the 177 ~~BS50~~
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.22 wasn't my choice either, but the deal presented itself, and I am not unhappy with it. I believe it to be on the edge of viability, just. It works, and the accuracy is there. As said, mine shoots great out of the box; maybe due to the heavier pellet. I like it enough if a .177 appears at a good price, I'll buy it, tk
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http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-parts/weihrauch/barrels/weihrauch-hw50-barrel-177-cal.html (http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-parts/weihrauch/barrels/weihrauch-hw50-barrel-177-cal.html)
http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-parts/weihrauch/hardware/weihrauch-hw50-cocking-lever.html (http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-parts/weihrauch/hardware/weihrauch-hw50-cocking-lever.html)
http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-parts/weihrauch/hardware/weihrauch-hw50-cocking-lever-rivet.html (http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-parts/weihrauch/hardware/weihrauch-hw50-cocking-lever-rivet.html)
Save some $ get a .177 barrel.
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http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-parts/weihrauch/barrels/weihrauch-hw50-barrel-177-cal.html (http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-parts/weihrauch/barrels/weihrauch-hw50-barrel-177-cal.html)
http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-parts/weihrauch/hardware/weihrauch-hw50-cocking-lever.html (http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-parts/weihrauch/hardware/weihrauch-hw50-cocking-lever.html)
http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-parts/weihrauch/hardware/weihrauch-hw50-cocking-lever-rivet.html (http://www.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/air-gun-parts/weihrauch/hardware/weihrauch-hw50-cocking-lever-rivet.html)
Save some $ get a .177 barrel.
+1
Also get a cocking lever and have them install the new cocking lever on the barrel block....makes it a simple swap out.
Just got done shooting my 50s ...Love that thing!
Happy Shootin to All!
Petey
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Just got done shooting my 50s ...Love that thing!
Me Too!!!
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Brad & Petey-
How's this compare to the 30: size, weight and cocking effort wise? I've fallen hard for my 30, and been looking at the 50 to replace my NP eventually.
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Brad & Petey-
How's this compare to the 30: size, weight and cocking effort wise? I've fallen hard for my 30, and been looking at the 50 to replace my NP eventually.
I'm not Brad nor Petey, but I had both the HW50S and an R7 (HW30) until recently. The 50 is a bit longer, a bit heavier and a lot harder to cock in my experience. I could sit and shoot the R7 for hours, but cocking the 50 was more like work after a short while. It's a great gun, but not as pleasurable to shoot as the HW30 and since you asked about twang, the 30 has less twang, if it has any at all.
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Brad & Petey-
How's this compare to the 30: size, weight and cocking effort wise? I've fallen hard for my 30, and been looking at the 50 to replace my NP eventually.
I'm not Brad nor Petey, but I had both the HW50S and an R7 (HW30) until recently. The 50 is a bit longer, a bit heavier and a lot harder to cock in my experience. I could sit and shoot the R7 for hours, but cocking the 50 was more like work after a short while. It's a great gun, but not as pleasurable to shoot as the HW30 and since you asked about twang, the 30 has less twang, if it has any at all.
All the Above.... However: the cocking effort can be lessened with addition of a Straight shooters muzzle brake and a JM kit.
The JM spring makes for nice smooth power and easier cocking.... I had a V brand kit and the shot cycle was nice, but snappy and considerably harder to cock. It shoots JSB 8.44 @740 FPS ....Power / weight = Great package. Size wise, it sits right between the R7/HW30 and the R9/HW95.
Plain Jane Stock - Hand Polished , JM kit, SS brake , Tim E Setback trigger, Hawke varmint SF scope....LOVE it!
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/50s/IMG_0676_zps2ed21935.jpg) (http://s1193.photobucket.com/user/NPetey/media/50s/IMG_0676_zps2ed21935.jpg.html)
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no disagreement from me, I also have the above mentioned muzzlebrake but the 30 is a handier little rascal. I am very pleased/lucky to own both units
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no disagreement from me, I also have the above mentioned muzzlebrake but the 30 is a handier little rascal. I am very pleased/lucky to own both units
I use to have a Hawke like you have on your HW30, I really do not know why I sold it. :)
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no disagreement from me, I also have the above mentioned muzzle brake but the 30 is a handier little rascal. I am very pleased/lucky to own both units
That it is....All day shooters for sure ..the 50s takes a bit more effort all the way around---but hey--it's a bigger AG.
Happy Shootin To All!
Petey
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I use to have a Hawke like you have on your HW30, I really do not know why I sold it. :)
No complaints here and not for sale ;D
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Ramble Man. When I first got my brand new R1, one forum member told me to just shoot it and get a few tins through it. Paraphrasing the words he said something to the effect that the Weihrauch's take on a magical transformation somewhere between 1500 and 2000 pellets and then it will all of a sudden smooth out, and the twang/buzz will subside. That was pretty much the truth too. I forced myself to shoot half a tin or Sheridan cylindricals and almost a full 500 tin of JSB exacts before the OEM spring guide snapped. Until then it was really coming into its own. Regardless, I soon rebuilt the rifle and man things really started to click. So that being said, just shoot it and dont sweat over the details too much for a while. Since the HW50 wasn't designed to be a magnum powered rifle, there is nothing wrong with shooting lighter weight pellets. Especially in .22 caliber. Hope you enjoy your new 50 :)
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Brad & Petey-
How's this compare to the 30: size, weight and cocking effort wise? I've fallen hard for my 30, and been looking at the 50 to replace my NP eventually.
I'm not Brad nor Petey, but I had both the HW50S and an R7 (HW30) until recently. The 50 is a bit longer, a bit heavier and a lot harder to cock in my experience. I could sit and shoot the R7 for hours, but cocking the 50 was more like work after a short while. It's a great gun, but not as pleasurable to shoot as the HW30 and since you asked about twang, the 30 has less twang, if it has any at all.
All the Above.... However: the cocking effort can be lessened with addition of a Straight shooters muzzle brake and a JM kit.
The JM spring makes for nice smooth power and easier cocking.... I had a V brand kit and the shot cycle was nice, but snappy and considerably harder to cock. It shoots JSB 8.44 @740 FPS ....Power / weight = Great package. Size wise, it sits right between the R7/HW30 and the R9/HW95.
Plain Jane Stock - Hand Polished , JM kit, SS brake , Tim E Setback trigger, Hawke varmint SF scope....LOVE it!
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/50s/IMG_0676_zps2ed21935.jpg) (http://s1193.photobucket.com/user/NPetey/media/50s/IMG_0676_zps2ed21935.jpg.html)
Wow that is a beauty. The stock is incredible.. Its the original? Real nice set up. The nicest HW50 Ive seen.
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Brad & Petey-
How's this compare to the 30: size, weight and cocking effort wise? I've fallen hard for my 30, and been looking at the 50 to replace my NP eventually.
I'm not Brad nor Petey, but I had both the HW50S and an R7 (HW30) until recently. The 50 is a bit longer, a bit heavier and a lot harder to cock in my experience. I could sit and shoot the R7 for hours, but cocking the 50 was more like work after a short while. It's a great gun, but not as pleasurable to shoot as the HW30 and since you asked about twang, the 30 has less twang, if it has any at all.
All the Above.... However: the cocking effort can be lessened with addition of a Straight shooters muzzle brake and a JM kit.
The JM spring makes for nice smooth power and easier cocking.... I had a V brand kit and the shot cycle was nice, but snappy and considerably harder to cock. It shoots JSB 8.44 @740 FPS ....Power / weight = Great package. Size wise, it sits right between the R7/HW30 and the R9/HW95.
Plain Jane Stock - Hand Polished , JM kit, SS brake , Tim E Setback trigger, Hawke varmint SF scope....LOVE it!
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/50s/IMG_0676_zps2ed21935.jpg) (http://s1193.photobucket.com/user/NPetey/media/50s/IMG_0676_zps2ed21935.jpg.html)
Wow that is a beauty. The stock is incredible.. Its the original? Real nice set up. The nicest HW50 Ive seen.
Original Stock - hand polished the factory finish. nothing else...
Plain and simple is just the way I like this one....Got it after the new style stocks came out. Went half nutz trying to find one of
the old style units....think I got the last one the planet. something about the 50s in a plain stock that I just love.
Happy shootin to all!
Petey
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Simplistic beauty.
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something about the 50s in a plain stock that I just love.
I hear you. Not a fan of the new HW stocks. I have one on my 57. I'll have to live with it. Glad I got my 50 and 77 when I did.
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Well if it's not up to Petey's standards, Petey will make it so. Wish I had some Petey skills.
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Well if it's not up to Petey's standards, Petey will make it so. Wish I had some Petey skills.
Brad , you make me laugh...... I like em at both ends of the spectrum..Plain and peanut. ;)
Happy Shootin To All!
Petey
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Well if it's not up to Petey's standards, Petey will make it so. Wish I had some Petey skills.
Brad , you make me laugh...... I like em at both ends of the spectrum..Plain and peanut. ;)
Happy Shootin To All!
Petey
Well laughter is good. ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks for all the info guys. My brother finally got an R9 and sent the HW50 on to me. It had about a hundred shots through it when I got it. I cleaned the barrel with a shot of WD40 and a bore snake and started shooting. Open sights, a new Hawke 3 X 9 X 40 on order. I was kinds disappointed at first, then realized the 3 inch shot groups were my fault. Just couldn't see the ten ring dot at farther than 10 yards. Kept shooting, thinking this has to get better. Using CP's for the first hundred shots or so. Finally showed some improvement in group size when the scope arrived. Put another 50 or so rounds through it getting the scope zeroed at 14 yards, (distance to squirrel feeder), and found it was also on at 30 yards. Nickel and Quarter size groups! (With the occasional flier, I'm not as good as I used to be). A perfect set up for the range from the garage door to the back fence, Another feeder is there. Just as I was taking a break from the heat and humidity, (I live in S. Louisiana, 90/90 most of the time), who should appear on the close feeder. Grabbed the 50, opened the garage door slowly and braced the barrel on the door frame. A grey squirrel was sitting up side profile with a small limb blocking his head from a shot. Put the cross hairs on his rib cage just behind the shoulder. POW! He took off straight up for about ten feet. I thought I had missed! He stopped his rush and I reloaded but didn't have time to shoot. He fell, bouncing from limb to limb, hit the ground and kicked twice, Dead. The Crosman hollow point had hit right on the cross hairs, a through and through shot, lots of blood. I felt good, first kill for the '50. This gun has all the power I need, Love it.
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When his brothers at arms notice he is missing they will head for the hills and come at you in 3 man teams. After you knock out a couple 3 man teams they will vacate. :)
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Good job, nice to get new gun blooded.
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Had my HW50 for about a month. Around 800 pellets through it. It was twangy enough to be annoying. Some lube to the spring softened the sound considerably. Now more of a thud.
Looking forward to the small game season opening in a month. ;D