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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => European/Asian Air Gun Gates => Turkish AirGun Gate => Topic started by: Nico5999 on July 28, 2014, 07:59:39 PM
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I managed to rope my friend into airguns ;D and we decided on spring piston. We are leaning toward an XS25 or B26 but he likes the Hatsans/particularly the Webley Stingray-a lot. However, I have read that their QC is spotty at best. I bought a 125 Sniper a while back and that was fine, but I don't want his first experience to be with a dud. I figured I could avoid this by getting the 10-for-10 but I am not so sure.
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No matter what you go with, Hatsan's customer service is definitely great to deal with so at least your investment is protected by a good warranty.
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The advantage of the XS25 that it has aftermarket tune kits. The B26 can use the R9 tune kit depending on the receiver tube size (rifle comes in two different sizes). JMO
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I don't know how much power you want, but RWS Diana 34 is an option.
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The quality isn't 100% super but it defiantly beats Chinese made, American assembled rifles.
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I only have one Turkish rifle. It is good, accurate, not precise, trigger is much better with an after market. I think if you go German or UK you will get a better product.
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Wait for a 34 refurb from AGD. They pop up every 3-4 weeks. $145 for a German rifle!
Scotty
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I had a Turkish made Winchester 1000X. It was my first AG and I had no idea how to treat it. I dry fired that sucker well over 50 times, left it cocked for weeks, did everything but pound nails with it and it still took down rabbit after rabbit. After 3 or 4 years, I tore it down and home tuned it, sold it to my neighbor and it's still chroning in the 900's with CPHP's and still accurate. I must have been really lucky because the seal , spring and all the internal parts were still in good shape when I tuned it. I sure don't treat my present AG's the same way. Live and learn.
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I have a Webley Blackhawk bought brand new. I just bought it from Air Gun Depot. It came to me broken and doesn't work. Air Gun Depot says they can't take it back and replace it. They say it has to be sent to the manufacturer for repair at my expense and after it's fixed I have to pay for it to be sent back to me (approximately $40.) Do you guys think I should send it for repair or try and sell it?
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I have a Webley Blackhawk bought brand new. I just bought it from Air Gun Depot. It came to me broken and doesn't work. Air Gun Depot says they can't take it back and replace it. They say it has to be sent to the manufacturer for repair at my expense and after it's fixed I have to pay for it to be sent back to me (approximately $40.) Do you guys think I should send it for repair or try and sell it?
That don't sound right at all. Airgun Depot not replacing an airgun that was broke when you got it? Last time I had an issue they sent me a replacement right away.
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I think it's because it's a Webley & Scott. Apparently they aren't covered by Air Gun Depot's 30 day guarantee or warrantee policy so I'm out of luck. Just wish I knew that before I bought it. I would have thought Hatsan would stand behind their product whether it was Hatsan branded or Webley and Scott.
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If it was a new rifle and sold to you by Airgun depot it must be covered by a warranty. Either it is replaced or money refunded. In the far south Pacific we have a Consumer Guarantees Act that covers goods sold by a retailer that are not fit for the purpose for which they were sold. The USA must have legislation that has a similar effect. However we have laws that cover the whole country and no state divisions. I assume the defect is internal and not something like a stock broken by bad handling while in transit. In that case the retailer may not be liable. That could be covered by transit insurance but that part might become tricky.
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Sure enough Webley and Scott is excluded from their return policy. Must be something to do with Webley and Scott or AGD would take care of it.
http://www.airgundepot.com/rma-form.html (http://www.airgundepot.com/rma-form.html)
Having a friend get his first air rifle and he is set on getting that air rifle I would not take the chance. With AGD's great service and normally the best return policy on receiving a damaged gun, they pay shipping back where most don't, I would say buy it a Pryamyd Air and get a 10 for 10. They don't exclude Webley and Scott from there return policy if there was a problem.
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Hey Cowboy1962 & Nico5999,
That's a deal breaker for Airgun Depot on Webley & Scott products. Since Airgun Depot is owned by Pyramyd Air anyway, just go with PA.
You may save a few $$ upfront with AD, but in the long run it's not cheaper!!
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Since Airgun Depot is owned by Pyramyd Air anyway, just go with PA.
Never heard that before. To my knowledge Airgun Depot was founded by Scott Thomas and Todd Holmberg. Scott contacted me and took care of an issue I had a few years ago so unless some recent changes. They are not owned by PA. If there is some proof otherwise please fill me in.
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Yeah Craymar,
Their was a post recently discussing that PA bought AD about a year ago, otherwise I wouldn't have known either.
However, PA still wants AD to operate as a separate entity, a behind the scene change only.
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Yeah Craymar,
Their was a post recently discussing that PA bought AD about a year ago, otherwise I wouldn't have known either.
However, PA still wants AD to operate as a separate entity, a behind the scene change only.
Well that is interesting, but sad news. Last thing we need is one company to start buying out the completion. We all know what that leads to. Will be checking into this a bit more. Anyone else heard this?
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Link?
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Yeah Craymar,
Their was a post recently discussing that PA bought AD about a year ago, otherwise I wouldn't have known either.
However, PA still wants AD to operate as a separate entity, a behind the scene change only.
Was not aware of this...
Seems kind of strange that PA would leave AD running as a separate entity. Guess the business world is a strange one.
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It would allow a way around sales taxes for Ohio buyers.
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I've had nothing but negative experiences with turkish guns
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I'm pretty sure Pyramyd Air own's Airgun Depot because the same annoying spam comes up on both sites when you visit them.
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Also Airgun Depot sells Air Venturi/Tech Force products which are owned by Pyramyd Air. Any way I didn't intend to stir up a hornet's nest I just don't like dealing with dishonest businesses and apparently neither Pyramdy Air or Airgun Depot is an honest business. I won't go into AOA and Ted Bier because I know he's very popular here on GTA.
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. . . apparently neither Pyramdy Air or Airgun Depot is an honest business. I won't go into AOA and Ted Bier because I know he's very popular here on GTA.
I disagree. I've made a number of purchases from Pyramid Air, and have also had to return one gun that developed problems within their 30-day return window, and they have been one of the best outfits I've ever dealt with. I've never dealt with Airgun Depot, but they have a very good reputation here on the forum and I am sure they earned every bit of it.
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I won't go into AOA and Ted Bier because I know he's very popular here on GTA.
Who is Teddy?
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Pyramid's return policy is the main reason I deal with them. They have always made things right with me.
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All is well with AirGun Depot. Along with coming here to make my issue public I also contacted Pyramyd Air who we now know owns AirGun Depot (I do a lot more business with PA than I do AD.) Between this forum and me complaining to PA I received an email from Topher Henderon at AirGun Depot and they are taking the Webley Blackhawk back. Thanks all, I'm all ;D.
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Yeah Craymar,
Their was a post recently discussing that PA bought AD about a year ago, otherwise I wouldn't have known either.
However, PA still wants AD to operate as a separate entity, a behind the scene change only.
Was not aware of this...
Seems kind of strange that PA would leave AD running as a separate entity. Guess the business world is a strange one.
Nothing strange about it really. Often times its done to create an illusion of competition within the consumer population. People think they're giving their business to the competition, when there actually isnt any competition.