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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: Bwalton on July 23, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
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I want one for my BT65 and AT44-10!
http://ohota.kiev.ua/category/hatsan/offset20/ (http://ohota.kiev.ua/category/hatsan/offset20/)
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I've wondered the same thing. With the evident popularity of the style, one would think the manufacturers would come up with something, and rather quickly.
How many Marauders would Crosman sell if they offered it in both the traditional and the pup? A LOT!
I'm not a big Marauder fan but a bull pup in .25 (or better yet a.30) I would probably jump all over. It wouldn't be that much of a stretch especially with the Marauder pistol!
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Seems like the Bull Pup fans are over on the Yellow. Lots of chatter there lately.
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I've wondered the same thing. With the evident popularity of the style, one would think the manufacturers would come up with something, and rather quickly.
How many Marauders would Crosman sell if they offered it in both the traditional and the pup? A LOT!
I'm not a big Marauder fan but a bull pup in .25 (or better yet a.30) I would probably jump all over. It wouldn't be that much of a stretch especially with the Marauder pistol!
Its sad!!! The BT65 .25 would benefit so much in this bull pup style...I am trying to contact them to see what I can get, how do I go about translating the site?
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if you have the add-on for your browser, you can usually hi-lite the text then right click on your mouse and "Translate with Google" or with Bing or whoever you are using, should be an option. If not, just copy the text and go to a translation website and paste it in. Most should be able to detect the language.
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ok thanks
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Precisely WHY many of us stateside just took the plunge designing & manufactured our own one off pups ;D
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u532/scott_schneider1/bc721c7d-796f-442d-be9e-189c714fc384_zps392e6976.jpg)
Why have cookie cutter when with some work you can have a COOL pup no one else has ;)
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Precisely WHY many of us stateside just took the plunge designing & manufactured our own one off pups ;D
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u532/scott_schneider1/bc721c7d-796f-442d-be9e-189c714fc384_zps392e6976.jpg)
Why have cookie cutter when with some work you can have a COOL pup no one else has ;)
Thats awesome with the time and know how , but what about the ppl that have neither ???
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Thats awesome with the time and know how , but what about the ppl that have neither ???
Good point ...
Can you say Edgun & Cricket :o
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Thats awesome with the time and know how , but what about the ppl that have neither ???
Good point ...
Can you say Edgun & Cricket :o
lol I cant but I won't lol, you know the funny thing is that bull pup stock on that website does not look home made, could this be a soon to be release from Hatsan?????? :o
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Looks like HATSAN factory stuff .... Tho the text in unreadable, maybe worth while to contact HATSAN USA making an inquire.
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Looks like HATSAN factory stuff .... Tho the text in unreadable, maybe worth while to contact HATSAN USA making an inquire.
It does huh........I am going to see what I can dig up.
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Looks like HATSAN factory stuff .... Tho the text in unreadable, maybe worth while to contact HATSAN USA making an inquire.
here is the translation:
Air Rifle Hatsan AT44-10 Bull Pup
Caliber (.177) and 4.5 mm
Type: Pre-pump (PCP)
Inflatable pressure: 200 bar
Volume of tank: 180kub.sm.
Number of shots at full power: 90
Muzzle velocity: 325 m / s
Charger: drum 10 bullets
System arming / Recharge: breech
Type of ammunition: Lead bullets caliber 4,5 mm
Overall length / barrel - 700 mm / 495 mm
Rear sight and front sight: yes
Strap width on the gun: 11 mm and 22 mm
Butt Material: American Walnut
Barrel: Steel, threaded
adjustable butt plate
Adjustable trigger pull the trigger
Fuse: automatic
Weight: 3.3 kg
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Send a link & picture you have along with your inquire to Hatsan USA ;)
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Send a link & picture you have along with your inquire to Hatsan USA ;)
I just did, I hope that they listen like they did with the muzzle break! but it will take more then just me sending an email....
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Precisely WHY many of us stateside just took the plunge designing & manufactured our own one off pups ;D
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u532/scott_schneider1/bc721c7d-796f-442d-be9e-189c714fc384_zps392e6976.jpg)
Why have cookie cutter when with some work you can have a COOL pup no one else has ;)
Thats awesome with the time and know how , but what about the ppl that have neither ???
now, THAT i like. especially the grip. heck of a job.
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Here's one I put together a few years ago.....does it qualify?
The original post can be found on the YF :
network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1257727426/SSP+rifle----------discovering+what%27s+possible
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Here's one I put together a few years ago.....does it qualify?
The original post can be found on the YF by searching for
" SSP rifle----------discovering whats possible "
I have no idea how the buttstock is supposed to work, but other than that it looks amazing! I love the simplistic compliment of the blonde stock to the chrome action. Beautiful!
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I've wondered the same thing. With the evident popularity of the style, one would think the manufacturers would come up with something, and rather quickly.
How many Marauders would Crosman sell if they offered it in both the traditional and the pup? A LOT!
I'm not a big Marauder fan but a bull pup in .25 (or better yet a.30) I would probably jump all over. It wouldn't be that much of a stretch especially with the Marauder pistol!
Your right! I started with the disco and wanted something higher end BUT in the Bullpup style as i'm a woods walker and use a small one seat hunting blind. Wanted something short. I ended up with a cricket, which I love but had their been a 500 buck Marauder Bullpup I've seen them hit nice groups @100 yards on youtube. I'd of gone for it instead of dropping three times as much for the cricket.
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Precisely WHY many of us stateside just took the plunge designing & manufactured our own one off pups ;D
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u532/scott_schneider1/bc721c7d-796f-442d-be9e-189c714fc384_zps392e6976.jpg)
Why have cookie cutter when with some work you can have a COOL pup no one else has ;)
My god that's so nice it should be considered porn. You did an amazing job on that man, really that looks GREAT!
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IM looking to convert an x60in to a bull pup going to start ordering parts next week.
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Not trying to toot ones own horn here ... but designs are loosely shown all over the web, with some motivation on just diving in and testing the waters of R&D you can achieve quite good results !!
Honestly had no clue what would come of the attempt .... if interested in the journey ?
Start here: http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,40431.msg377422.html#new (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,40431.msg377422.html#new)
No right or wrong way ... just YOUR way 8)
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I have an Edgun style stock on my aa s410. Fun little gun to be honest.
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I want one for my BT65 and AT44-10!
http://ohota.kiev.ua/category/hatsan/offset20/ (http://ohota.kiev.ua/category/hatsan/offset20/)
What is in that bp stock in the picture? That looks awesome whatever it is! I cannot believe that there is not a provider of reasonably priced custom stocks for a variety of air-rifles myself. What do I know?
agw.
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I want one for my BT65 and AT44-10!
http://ohota.kiev.ua/category/hatsan/offset20/ (http://ohota.kiev.ua/category/hatsan/offset20/)
I sent UncleJack a PM asking what it would take to get him to make a bp stock for me like the white he made, but in black...no reply as of yet: http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=39148.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=39148.0)
Thanks,
agw.
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I want one for my BT65 and AT44-10!
http://ohota.kiev.ua/category/hatsan/offset20/ (http://ohota.kiev.ua/category/hatsan/offset20/)
I sent UncleJack a PM asking what it would take to get him to make a bp stock for me like the white he made, but in black...no reply as of yet: http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=39148.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=39148.0)
Thanks,
agw.
I would take one too! all black though
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Yea I wish they had the factory option to go BP. They just look so cool ;D.
I want one for my BT65 and AT44-10!
http://ohota.kiev.ua/category/hatsan/offset20/ (http://ohota.kiev.ua/category/hatsan/offset20/)
I sent UncleJack a PM asking what it would take to get him to make a bp stock for me like the white he made, but in black...no reply as of yet: http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=39148.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=39148.0)
Thanks,
agw.
Unfortunately his profile says he hasn't logged in in 4 months :-\ I'm thinking of making
my own for my disco to see how I like it not sure whether I want to do a wood one like the Snow Peak P12
or a metal one like one of UncleJack's.Which one of UncleJacks do you guys like the best?1,2,3,4,5,6
and what gun you would put in it?(hope its ok to post all the pics thought it would be nicer then links,
can change to links if needed)
1)(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z445/blackhawk00/at1.jpg)
2)(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z445/blackhawk00/mtan1.jpg)
3)(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z445/blackhawk00/Mlite1.jpg)
4)(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z445/blackhawk00/marauder1RIS.jpg)
5)(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z445/blackhawk00/mnh00.jpg)
6)(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n536/pegasuswing/h20-1.jpg)
I'm partial to the AR style rails 8) We'll see if it ever happens...might do a batch depending how it comes out.
Probably not but if there is interest...I'll have to do more research on what goes into making them.
Nice job on yours motor head looks great.
Joseph
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Uncle Jack has FOR YEARS been showing off lots of Pup conversions made for many PCP platforms.
Within many a thread folks inquired being told ..... Just make these up for my group of shooting buddies ONLY.
That said ... Don't hold your breath :P
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Master Motor Head,
If I had your skills I would be buildin those little pups for sure.
I am still trying to fit a barrel o-ring back in it's groove, Nice job.
Be Well,
Gator
Baxter, I would buy one of those pups you pictured. That white one someone posted is nice bright looking. However, the one you posted looks more sturdy.
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Master Motor Head,
If I had your skills I would be buildin those little pups for sure.
I am still trying to fit a barrel o-ring back in it's groove, Nice job.
Be Well,
Gator
Baxter, I would buy one of those pups you pictured. That white one someone posted is nice bright looking. However, the one you posted looks more sturdy.
I finally mastered the o-ring and moved onto recrowning a barrel. But still, not Master Motorhead.
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Uncle Jack has FOR YEARS been showing off lots of Pup conversions made for many PCP platforms.
Within many a thread folks inquired being told ..... Just make these up for my group of shooting buddies ONLY.
That said ... Don't hold your breath :P
Motorhead, you too make bp stocks?
If yes, any links to some pictures? :D
Thanks,
agw.
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Yea I wish they had the factory option to go BP. They just look so cool ;D.
I want one for my BT65 and AT44-10!
http://ohota.kiev.ua/category/hatsan/offset20/ (http://ohota.kiev.ua/category/hatsan/offset20/)
I sent UncleJack a PM asking what it would take to get him to make a bp stock for me like the white he made, but in black...no reply as of yet: http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=39148.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=39148.0)
Thanks,
agw.
Unfortunately his profile says he hasn't logged in in 4 months :-\ I'm thinking of making
my own for my disco to see how I like it not sure whether I want to do a wood one like the Snow Peak P12
or a metal one like one of UncleJack's.Which one of UncleJacks do you guys like the best?1,2,3,4,5,6
and what gun you would put in it?(hope its ok to post all the pics thought it would be nicer then links,
can change to links if needed)
1)(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z445/blackhawk00/at1.jpg)
2)(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z445/blackhawk00/mtan1.jpg)
3)(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z445/blackhawk00/Mlite1.jpg)
4)(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z445/blackhawk00/marauder1RIS.jpg)
5)(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z445/blackhawk00/mnh00.jpg)
6)(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n536/pegasuswing/h20-1.jpg)
I'm partial to the AR style rails 8) We'll see if it ever happens...might do a batch depending how it comes out.
Probably not but if there is interest...I'll have to do more research on what goes into making them.
Nice job on yours motor head looks great.
Joseph
I like #4!
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IM looking to convert an x60in to a bull pup going to start ordering parts next week.
Are you making your own stock? Any pictures, drawings or plans that you care to share?
Sounds very interesting and I'm excited to follow your progress!:)
agw.
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I like the idea of aluminum myself, as it seems that they would not be as bulky and would be more light-weight...better balanced feeling.
Again, that one in picture #4 would be awesome for me personally!
It's a shame that there's not someone here in the States that can or will make custom bullpup stocks for various models, or for the models that get the most requests for bullpups stocks! Would also be nice if the cost was not $450.00+!
I know many wood workers and metal workers that could build the bullpup stocks, but they know nothing about air-guns!
If I could drop an AT44 long .25 in stock #4 or possibly a full-power tuned Mrod .25, that would be pretty cool!
Hopefully someone will start a business soon building custom bullpup stocks in a manner that will allow them to keep the price below that of the air-gun you plan on putting in the stock! (if that's even possible?)
Thanks,
agw.
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Well, it looks like it might become a possibility for Benjamin to offer the Marauder in a BP form....
Here's a response I got from them when inquiring about two things, one was wondering if they have plans to offer the Marauder in .30 caliber and second, if they plan to offer the Marauder in a BP version.
"At this time I do not know of any talks of a .30 caliber Marauder. I do know we have had the request of a Bull-pup design for the Marauder and it is in the discussion stage.
I will pass on your comments to the design team.
Thank you for sending in your request."
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I like the idea of aluminum myself, as it seems that they would not be as bulky and would be more light-weight...better balanced feeling.
Again, that one in picture #4 would be awesome for me personally!
It's a shame that there's not someone here in the States that can or will make custom bullpup stocks for various models, or for the models that get the most requests for bullpups stocks! Would also be nice if the cost was not $450.00+!
I know many wood workers and metal workers that could build the bullpup stocks, but they know nothing about air-guns!
If I could drop an AT44 long .25 in stock #4 or possibly a full-power tuned Mrod .25, that would be pretty cool!
Hopefully someone will start a business soon building custom bullpup stocks in a manner that will allow them to keep the price below that of the air-gun you plan on putting in the stock! (if that's even possible?)
Thanks,
agw.
Hoping to make one for my disco soon and see if me and my brother machinist can get it figured out... ;)
If we do get it built and it works well then we will probably do a couple extra.
No other votes on favorite stock?, I'm still undecided as to
what one I going to try although I do like the look of #4.
Also what gun if you guys could get a BP stock would you put it on?
Any tips and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Joseph
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I just bit the bullet and ordered one from here for my BT65, I have to put the finish that I want on myself , but thats not a problem...
http://www.guntuning.com/content.php?cms_id=167&lang=eng (http://www.guntuning.com/content.php?cms_id=167&lang=eng)
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Congrats they have some pretty sweet looking stocks ;)
Do you mind my asking roughly what they are charging for a unfinished stock?
Don't forget to add pics when it comes :D
Joseph
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Congrats they have some pretty sweet looking stocks ;)
Do you mind my asking roughly what they are charging for a unfinished stock?
Don't forget to add pics when it comes :D
Joseph
Its $282 shipped.... won't have it till September.
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Congrats they have some pretty sweet looking stocks ;)
Do you mind my asking roughly what they are charging for a unfinished stock?
Don't forget to add pics when it comes :D
Joseph
Its $282 shipped.... won't have it till September.
Wonder if they would make one for the AT44 like the one you are getting for the BT65, imho, the one for the BT65 looks a lot better!
Can't wait to see yours when finished!
How will the trigeer work, will it require any linkage or modifications or just drop right in?
Thanks,
AGW.
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Its $282 shipped.... won't have it till September.
That's a darn good price!
Wonder if they would make one for the AT44 like the one you are getting for the BT65, imho, the one for the BT65 looks a lot better!
Can't wait to see yours when finished!
How will the trigeer work, will it require any linkage or modifications or just drop right in?
Thanks,
AGW.
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The trigger linkage is included, they word it as "trigger transfer". If you click on the "more" at the bottom of the AT44 photo, you'll see they do have a Edgun style stock shown, though it looks to be for the long version.
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Its $282 shipped.... won't have it till September.
That's a darn good price!
Wonder if they would make one for the AT44 like the one you are getting for the BT65, imho, the one for the BT65 looks a lot better!
Can't wait to see yours when finished!
How will the trigeer work, will it require any linkage or modifications or just drop right in?
Thanks,
AGW.
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The trigger linkage is included, they word it as "trigger transfer". If you click on the "more" at the bottom of the AT44 photo, you'll see they do have a Edgun style stock shown, though it looks to be for the long version.
If I get AT44, it will be the long version. I will go have another look now.
Thank you for letting me know that, :D
Al.
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I like the idea of aluminum myself, as it seems that they would not be as bulky and would be more light-weight...better balanced feeling.
Again, that one in picture #4 would be awesome for me personally!
It's a shame that there's not someone here in the States that can or will make custom bullpup stocks for various models, or for the models that get the most requests for bullpups stocks! Would also be nice if the cost was not $450.00+!
I know many wood workers and metal workers that could build the bullpup stocks, but they know nothing about air-guns!
If I could drop an AT44 long .25 in stock #4 or possibly a full-power tuned Mrod .25, that would be pretty cool!
Hopefully someone will start a business soon building custom bullpup stocks in a manner that will allow them to keep the price below that of the air-gun you plan on putting in the stock! (if that's even possible?)
Thanks,
agw.
Hoping to make one for my disco soon and see if me and my brother machinist can get it figured out... ;)
If we do get it built and it works well then we will probably do a couple extra.
No other votes on favorite stock?, I'm still undecided as to
what one I going to try although I do like the look of #4.
Also what gun if you guys could get a BP stock would you put it on?
Any tips and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Joseph
For me, it would be the AT44 and Mrod.
Suggestions: Disco, Mrod, BT65, AT44, QB-78 Deluxe, and....I can't think of anything else?
Good-luck with your project, hope it all works out and look forward to seeing the results!
Take care,
AGW.
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I just cancelled the order, I thought that the trigger kit came with the stock, but it is sold separately...it would cost $416 :o
I just have to wait and see when Hatsans bull pup will be in the US. $416 plus $650 for the BT65, plus $100 for a TKO round off to $1200 I might as well buy a FX or some thing... I would rather buy another scope or pellets, hunting clothes........For me to be happy with my Hatsans They need to stay under $700 no matter what mods or upgrades that I do. So far I have added only TKO to them and the mods were less then $1.00 2 set screws to do the valve and taken to work to do the crown and now shoots 50% then stock.
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I like the TwinMaster Air Hunter: http://www.guntuning.com/content.php?cms_id=167&lang=eng# (http://www.guntuning.com/content.php?cms_id=167&lang=eng#)
Wonder if one could drop a long AT44 or Mrod in that? Wonder if they'd be willing to make that happen?
Anyway...
AGW.
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I just cancelled the order, I thought that the trigger kit came with the stock, but it is sold separately...it would cost $416 :o
I just have to wait and see when Hatsans bull pup will be in the US. $416 plus $650 for the BT65, plus $100 for a TKO round off to $1200 I might as well buy a FX or some thing... I would rather buy another scope or pellets, hunting clothes........For me to be happy with my Hatsans They need to stay under $700 no matter what mods or upgrades that I do. So far I have added only TKO to them and the mods were less then $1.00 2 set screws to do the valve and taken to work to do the crown and now shoots 50% then stock.
:o :o :o :o :o :o
Wow, that's a bummer!
I have been giving a lot of thought to the whole idea of a bull pup stock since very recently being asked if I have ever shouldered one, as I may hate the way it feels. Told this by a few people that sell bullpup stocks and/or bullpup type air-guns. I appreciate their honesty!
I really need to shoulder a bullpup before I continue worrying about getting one.
Thanks,
Al.
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I like the TwinMaster Air Hunter: http://www.guntuning.com/content.php?cms_id=167&lang=eng# (http://www.guntuning.com/content.php?cms_id=167&lang=eng#)
Wonder if one could drop a long AT44 or Mrod in that? Wonder if they'd be willing to make that happen?
Anyway...
AGW.
They will do anything you want but for over $400 not worth it, I would pay $250 at the most, other then that I would buy a gun already done... The $282 was pushing it..
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:o :o :o :o :o :o Wow, that's a bummer!
I have been giving a lot of thought to the whole idea of a bull pup stock since very recently being asked if I have ever shouldered one, as I may hate the way it feels. Told this by a few people that sell bullpup stocks and/or bullpup type air-guns. I appreciate their honesty!
I really need to shoulder a bullpup before I continue worrying about getting one.
Thanks,
Al.
I've been wondering the same thing :o ;D
That is part of why I'm making one is just to be able to try it.
I just cancelled the order, I thought that the trigger kit came with the stock, but it is sold separately...it would cost $416 :o
I just have to wait and see when Hatsans bull pup will be in the US. $416 plus $650 for the BT65, plus $100 for a TKO round off to $1200 I might as well buy a FX or some thing... I would rather buy another scope or pellets, hunting clothes........For me to be happy with my Hatsans They need to stay under $700 no matter what mods or upgrades that I do. So far I have added only TKO to them and the mods were less then $1.00 2 set screws to do the valve and taken to work to do the crown and now shoots 50% then stock.
:o :o Wow that's a lot I'm thinking if we do extras it would be about $300+-
of course that all depends still don't know a lot of what goes in for all I know
might be more might be less still have to figure out the trigger and the inletting to fit
a disco...(luckily my bro has access to a cnc mill :D(plus he even knows how to use it ;))
so hopefully will get my dimensions figured out and order my metal so I can get started soon.
would like to do one out of wood but have to learn more... is it as important to go with the grain on laminate
for strength or can you kind of machine out holes and inlet more freely because its laminate?
This should be an interesting project hopefully it will finish well and quickly ;)
Joseph
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I just cancelled the order, I thought that the trigger kit came with the stock, but it is sold separately...it would cost $416 :o
I just have to wait and see when Hatsans bull pup will be in the US. $416 plus $650 for the BT65, plus $100 for a TKO round off to $1200 I might as well buy a FX or some thing... I would rather buy another scope or pellets, hunting clothes........For me to be happy with my Hatsans They need to stay under $700 no matter what mods or upgrades that I do. So far I have added only TKO to them and the mods were less then $1.00 2 set screws to do the valve and taken to work to do the crown and now shoots 50% then stock.
Wow, seperate? What a sad business model.
Half the battle of doing a bullpup conversion is a proper functioning trigger linkage, let alone the decent looking and functioning stock.
That said, the price is still not out of line compared to other BP makers.
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Yup ... why i never took my Mud Pup design beyond the prototype into production in spite MANY inquires.
Material cost, Labor based upon a realistic wage for machine shop work etc ... then make some profit beyond parts cost and making a wage so the whole project is worth ones while :o
Yup, at least $400 :P
Now in Hatsans case of a Molded stock and some specif linkage and a scope rail ... done at the factory level a few $100 more than a conventional stocked gun tops IMO.
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I just cancelled the order, I thought that the trigger kit came with the stock, but it is sold separately...it would cost $416 :o
I just have to wait and see when Hatsans bull pup will be in the US. $416 plus $650 for the BT65, plus $100 for a TKO round off to $1200 I might as well buy a FX or some thing... I would rather buy another scope or pellets, hunting clothes........For me to be happy with my Hatsans They need to stay under $700 no matter what mods or upgrades that I do. So far I have added only TKO to them and the mods were less then $1.00 2 set screws to do the valve and taken to work to do the crown and now shoots 50% then stock.
I thought something was up when you said just $282, I contacted them for a stock for my at44 and wound up with something around $400+. I got a complete bullpup stock, trigger assembly, and scope mount from Wild West Airguns for $270. It's not as pretty as guntunings when they're finished, but they can go screw themselves if they think I'm gonna pay more than the gun is worth for a stock that isn't even sanded down and then wait 3 months for it after I order.
So far I'm $590 into my at44 if you don't count the sound moderator, $680 with it.
You'd be better off buying a cricket than making a bullpup from them.
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I just cancelled the order, I thought that the trigger kit came with the stock, but it is sold separately...it would cost $416 :o
I just have to wait and see when Hatsans bull pup will be in the US. $416 plus $650 for the BT65, plus $100 for a TKO round off to $1200 I might as well buy a FX or some thing... I would rather buy another scope or pellets, hunting clothes........For me to be happy with my Hatsans They need to stay under $700 no matter what mods or upgrades that I do. So far I have added only TKO to them and the mods were less then $1.00 2 set screws to do the valve and taken to work to do the crown and now shoots 50% then stock.
I thought something was up when you said just $282, I contacted them for a stock for my at44 and wound up with something around $400+. I got a complete bullpup stock, trigger assembly, and scope mount from Wild West Airguns for $270. It's not as pretty as guntunings when they're finished, but they can go screw themselves if they think I'm gonna pay more than the gun is worth for a stock that isn't even sanded down and then wait 3 months for it after I order.
So far I'm $590 into my at44 if you don't count the sound moderator, $680 with it.
You'd be better off buying a cricket than making a bullpup from them.
lol indeed.....I seen the one from WW airgus, its not that bad....I did think about that one.
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I just cancelled the order, I thought that the trigger kit came with the stock, but it is sold separately...it would cost $416 :o
I just have to wait and see when Hatsans bull pup will be in the US. $416 plus $650 for the BT65, plus $100 for a TKO round off to $1200 I might as well buy a FX or some thing... I would rather buy another scope or pellets, hunting clothes........For me to be happy with my Hatsans They need to stay under $700 no matter what mods or upgrades that I do. So far I have added only TKO to them and the mods were less then $1.00 2 set screws to do the valve and taken to work to do the crown and now shoots 50% then stock.
I thought something was up when you said just $282, I contacted them for a stock for my at44 and wound up with something around $400+. I got a complete bullpup stock, trigger assembly, and scope mount from Wild West Airguns for $270. It's not as pretty as guntunings when they're finished, but they can go screw themselves if they think I'm gonna pay more than the gun is worth for a stock that isn't even sanded down and then wait 3 months for it after I order.
So far I'm $590 into my at44 if you don't count the sound moderator, $680 with it.
You'd be better off buying a cricket than making a bullpup from them.
lol indeed.....I seen the one from WW airgus, its not that bad....I did think about that one.
I went to WW site and did not see a stock kit option?
Link?
Thanks,
agw.
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For me, having a bullpup stock had first to do with comfort (as mentioned before, because of my size, weight and build) and the other reason, was to have an awesome looking air-gun...with the "right" looking bullpup stock (something like the one in picture Number 4, the Mrod ones and the P-12 bullpup stock).
Then, when I was warned about the fact that just because a bullpup is smaller and more compact, it did not mean that it would be more comfortable and I may not like the way it shoulders.
All of the above and my interest in a bullpup stock (just as a reminder) revolves around the Hatsan Synthetic AT44 Long .25, as it does not look great right out of the box imho...like the BT65 ELITE does.
So, I have been thinking about the fact that in all of my history of shooting, it has always been with a conventional type rifle stock, which is what I am used to, be it pb or air-rifle and with pretty good results.
I was thinking of taking my Flying Dragon-PCP and turning it into a .25, as it has had a full-power tune and produces the following:
Power Adjuster set to lowest power setting, i.e., the Power Adjuster Screw is all the way out.
14.3-grain Shot-String:
1. 906-fps-
2. 912-fps-
3. 917-fps-
4. 927-fps-
5. 936-fps-
6. 936-fps-
7. 943-fps-
8. 934-fps-
9. 932-fps-
10. 924-fps-
11. 912-fps-
12. 905-fps-
Started with a fill of 1850-psi and ended with roughly 1150-psi. (From AirGunWarriors.)
Tried out a 32.4-grain Eun Jin and got high 780-fps with 44-fpe!
Thinking of adding a 24-inch .25 LW barrel, opening the barrel port a bit, adding a 22ci or 500cc bottle with a regulated out-put of 1800-psi or higher and have one heck of a tack-driving .25 caliber Air-Rifle!
I can add the right scope, bi-pod, a 2-inch accessory rail, muzzle brake and have it looking awesome! It already has a 1.5" rail for the bi-pod and sling studs.
Although having a repeater option would be nice, this would be primarily a hunting gun, so having a repeater would not be that important.
Then, I stumbled onto Citrus Air's site and it turned my world up-side down!
Mike at Citrus Air makes a tactical Mrod that is just mind blowing in accuracy, looks and performance! I did not really care for tactical looking air-guns, until I saw the one at Citrus Air! He also has a bullpup Mrod that too is mind blowing!
http://citrusairguns.com/custom-built-guns.html (http://citrusairguns.com/custom-built-guns.html)
Now I am clueless on exactly what, how and when I will have my .25!
Do I keep the FD-PCP a .22, get the AT44 .25 Long and dress it up or save up for a year and get that awesome Mrod Tactical from Citrus Air? :-\
Ugggh!
agw.
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I just cancelled the order, I thought that the trigger kit came with the stock, but it is sold separately...it would cost $416 :o
I just have to wait and see when Hatsans bull pup will be in the US. $416 plus $650 for the BT65, plus $100 for a TKO round off to $1200 I might as well buy a FX or some thing... I would rather buy another scope or pellets, hunting clothes........For me to be happy with my Hatsans They need to stay under $700 no matter what mods or upgrades that I do. So far I have added only TKO to them and the mods were less then $1.00 2 set screws to do the valve and taken to work to do the crown and now shoots 50% then stock.
I thought something was up when you said just $282, I contacted them for a stock for my at44 and wound up with something around $400+. I got a complete bullpup stock, trigger assembly, and scope mount from Wild West Airguns for $270. It's not as pretty as guntunings when they're finished, but they can go screw themselves if they think I'm gonna pay more than the gun is worth for a stock that isn't even sanded down and then wait 3 months for it after I order.
So far I'm $590 into my at44 if you don't count the sound moderator, $680 with it.
You'd be better off buying a cricket than making a bullpup from them.
lol indeed.....I seen the one from WW airgus, its not that bad....I did think about that one.
I went to WW site and did not see a stock kit option?
Link?
Thanks,
agw.
He quit making them and only had a few left, you have to contact them directly. That's if they still have any.
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For me, having a bullpup stock had first to do with comfort (as mentioned before, because of my size, weight and build) and the other reason, was to have an awesome looking air-gun...with the "right" looking bullpup stock (something like the one in picture Number 4, the Mrod ones and the P-12 bullpup stock).
Then, when I was warned about the fact that just because a bullpup is smaller and more compact, it did not mean that it would be more comfortable and I may not like the way it shoulders.
All of the above and my interest in a bullpup stock (just as a reminder) revolves around the Hatsan Synthetic AT44 Long .25, as it does not look great right out of the box imho...like the BT65 ELITE does.
So, I have been thinking about the fact that in all of my history of shooting, it has always been with a conventional type rifle stock, which is what I am used to, be it pb or air-rifle and with pretty good results.
I was thinking of taking my Flying Dragon-PCP and turning it into a .25, as it has had a full-power tune and produces the following:
Power Adjuster set to lowest power setting, i.e., the Power Adjuster Screw is all the way out.
14.3-grain Shot-String:
1. 906-fps-
2. 912-fps-
3. 917-fps-
4. 927-fps-
5. 936-fps-
6. 936-fps-
7. 943-fps-
8. 934-fps-
9. 932-fps-
10. 924-fps-
11. 912-fps-
12. 905-fps-
Started with a fill of 1850-psi and ended with roughly 1150-psi. (From AirGunWarriors.)
Tried out a 32.4-grain Eun Jin and got high 780-fps with 44-fpe!
Thinking of adding a 24-inch .25 LW barrel, opening the barrel port a bit, adding a 22ci or 500cc bottle with a regulated out-put of 1800-psi or higher and have one heck of a tack-driving .25 caliber Air-Rifle!
I can add the right scope, bi-pod, a 2-inch accessory rail, muzzle brake and have it looking awesome! It already has a 1.5" rail for the bi-pod and sling studs.
Although having a repeater option would be nice, this would be primarily a hunting gun, so having a repeater would not be that important.
Then, I stumbled onto Citrus Air's site and it turned my world up-side down!
Mike at Citrus Air makes a tactical Mrod that is just mind blowing in accuracy, looks and performance! I did not really care for tactical looking air-guns, until I saw the one at Citrus Air! He also has a bullpup Mrod that too is mind blowing!
http://citrusairguns.com/custom-built-guns.html (http://citrusairguns.com/custom-built-guns.html)
Now I am clueless on exactly what, how and when I will have my .25!
Do I keep the FD-PCP a .22, get the AT44 .25 Long and dress it up or save up for a year and get that awesome Mrod Tactical from Citrus Air? :-\
Ugggh!
agw.
Is not the same as my AT44-10 Tact?
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For me, having a bullpup stock had first to do with comfort (as mentioned before, because of my size, weight and build) and the other reason, was to have an awesome looking air-gun...with the "right" looking bullpup stock (something like the one in picture Number 4, the Mrod ones and the P-12 bullpup stock).
Then, when I was warned about the fact that just because a bullpup is smaller and more compact, it did not mean that it would be more comfortable and I may not like the way it shoulders.
All of the above and my interest in a bullpup stock (just as a reminder) revolves around the Hatsan Synthetic AT44 Long .25, as it does not look great right out of the box imho...like the BT65 ELITE does.
So, I have been thinking about the fact that in all of my history of shooting, it has always been with a conventional type rifle stock, which is what I am used to, be it pb or air-rifle and with pretty good results.
I was thinking of taking my Flying Dragon-PCP and turning it into a .25, as it has had a full-power tune and produces the following:
Power Adjuster set to lowest power setting, i.e., the Power Adjuster Screw is all the way out.
14.3-grain Shot-String:
1. 906-fps-
2. 912-fps-
3. 917-fps-
4. 927-fps-
5. 936-fps-
6. 936-fps-
7. 943-fps-
8. 934-fps-
9. 932-fps-
10. 924-fps-
11. 912-fps-
12. 905-fps-
Started with a fill of 1850-psi and ended with roughly 1150-psi. (From AirGunWarriors.)
Tried out a 32.4-grain Eun Jin and got high 780-fps with 44-fpe!
Thinking of adding a 24-inch .25 LW barrel, opening the barrel port a bit, adding a 22ci or 500cc bottle with a regulated out-put of 1800-psi or higher and have one heck of a tack-driving .25 caliber Air-Rifle!
I can add the right scope, bi-pod, a 2-inch accessory rail, muzzle brake and have it looking awesome! It already has a 1.5" rail for the bi-pod and sling studs.
Although having a repeater option would be nice, this would be primarily a hunting gun, so having a repeater would not be that important.
Then, I stumbled onto Citrus Air's site and it turned my world up-side down!
Mike at Citrus Air makes a tactical Mrod that is just mind blowing in accuracy, looks and performance! I did not really care for tactical looking air-guns, until I saw the one at Citrus Air! He also has a bullpup Mrod that too is mind blowing!
http://citrusairguns.com/custom-built-guns.html (http://citrusairguns.com/custom-built-guns.html)
Now I am clueless on exactly what, how and when I will have my .25!
Do I keep the FD-PCP a .22, get the AT44 .25 Long and dress it up or save up for a year and get that awesome Mrod Tactical from Citrus Air? :-\
Ugggh!
agw.
Is not the same as my AT44-10 Tact?
Maybe same as yours in looks a tad-bit, but that's where it ends!
You'd have to talk with Mike at Citrus Air to fully understand just how insanely awesome that Tactical Mrod he makes really is.
There are some features that he asked I not disclose on public forum at this time. Aside from insane performance and shot-count, there are a few other features that really set that Tactical Mrod of his apart from any other air-gun I'm familier with!
I like your AT44 Tactical, just need the long barrel myself. You could have the AT44 Tactical with a long barrel, right, would just have to swap out the barrel yourself or have someone do it?
Thanks,
Al.
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For me, having a bullpup stock had first to do with comfort (as mentioned before, because of my size, weight and build) and the other reason, was to have an awesome looking air-gun...with the "right" looking bullpup stock (something like the one in picture Number 4, the Mrod ones and the P-12 bullpup stock).
Then, when I was warned about the fact that just because a bullpup is smaller and more compact, it did not mean that it would be more comfortable and I may not like the way it shoulders.
All of the above and my interest in a bullpup stock (just as a reminder) revolves around the Hatsan Synthetic AT44 Long .25, as it does not look great right out of the box imho...like the BT65 ELITE does.
So, I have been thinking about the fact that in all of my history of shooting, it has always been with a conventional type rifle stock, which is what I am used to, be it pb or air-rifle and with pretty good results.
I was thinking of taking my Flying Dragon-PCP and turning it into a .25, as it has had a full-power tune and produces the following:
Power Adjuster set to lowest power setting, i.e., the Power Adjuster Screw is all the way out.
14.3-grain Shot-String:
1. 906-fps-
2. 912-fps-
3. 917-fps-
4. 927-fps-
5. 936-fps-
6. 936-fps-
7. 943-fps-
8. 934-fps-
9. 932-fps-
10. 924-fps-
11. 912-fps-
12. 905-fps-
Started with a fill of 1850-psi and ended with roughly 1150-psi. (From AirGunWarriors.)
Tried out a 32.4-grain Eun Jin and got high 780-fps with 44-fpe!
Thinking of adding a 24-inch .25 LW barrel, opening the barrel port a bit, adding a 22ci or 500cc bottle with a regulated out-put of 1800-psi or higher and have one heck of a tack-driving .25 caliber Air-Rifle!
I can add the right scope, bi-pod, a 2-inch accessory rail, muzzle brake and have it looking awesome! It already has a 1.5" rail for the bi-pod and sling studs.
Although having a repeater option would be nice, this would be primarily a hunting gun, so having a repeater would not be that important.
Then, I stumbled onto Citrus Air's site and it turned my world up-side down!
Mike at Citrus Air makes a tactical Mrod that is just mind blowing in accuracy, looks and performance! I did not really care for tactical looking air-guns, until I saw the one at Citrus Air! He also has a bullpup Mrod that too is mind blowing!
http://citrusairguns.com/custom-built-guns.html (http://citrusairguns.com/custom-built-guns.html)
Now I am clueless on exactly what, how and when I will have my .25!
Do I keep the FD-PCP a .22, get the AT44 .25 Long and dress it up or save up for a year and get that awesome Mrod Tactical from Citrus Air? :-\
Ugggh!
agw.
Is not the same as my AT44-10 Tact?
Maybe same as yours in looks a tad-bit, but that's where it ends!
You'd have to talk with Mike at Citrus Air to fully understand just how insanely awesome that Tactical Mrod he makes really is.
There are some features that he asked I not disclose on public forum at this time. Aside from insane performance and shot-count, there are a few other features that really set that Tactical Mrod of his apart from any other air-gun I'm familier with!
I like your AT44 Tactical, just need the long barrel myself. You could have the AT44 Tactical with a long barrel, right, would just have to swap out the barrel yourself or have someone do it?
Thanks,
Al.
Al what make the Hatsan so insanely cool is that I can put any configuration on them and they are very very simple to Mod.... I do not need to buy another barrel... For just $300 I can buy a AT44-10 .25 Long and do Bob's mod's on it and just like that I can shoot JSB Kings @ 950fps and after my crown one hole groups @ 50yards.
I got a Hammerili Pneuma stock in a purchase and now I have the option to take that stock in the mountains which is 2lbs lighter.
here is a picture of it. And it would only cost me the price of another gun.....which with other guns ppl would pay half that price or more to Mod it like that. when all is said and done I might have two or three configurations of the AT44-10 all hitting hard and accurate. Both same gun...
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For me, having a bullpup stock had first to do with comfort (as mentioned before, because of my size, weight and build) and the other reason, was to have an awesome looking air-gun...with the "right" looking bullpup stock (something like the one in picture Number 4, the Mrod ones and the P-12 bullpup stock).
Then, when I was warned about the fact that just because a bullpup is smaller and more compact, it did not mean that it would be more comfortable and I may not like the way it shoulders.
All of the above and my interest in a bullpup stock (just as a reminder) revolves around the Hatsan Synthetic AT44 Long .25, as it does not look great right out of the box imho...like the BT65 ELITE does.
So, I have been thinking about the fact that in all of my history of shooting, it has always been with a conventional type rifle stock, which is what I am used to, be it pb or air-rifle and with pretty good results.
I was thinking of taking my Flying Dragon-PCP and turning it into a .25, as it has had a full-power tune and produces the following:
Power Adjuster set to lowest power setting, i.e., the Power Adjuster Screw is all the way out.
14.3-grain Shot-String:
1. 906-fps-
2. 912-fps-
3. 917-fps-
4. 927-fps-
5. 936-fps-
6. 936-fps-
7. 943-fps-
8. 934-fps-
9. 932-fps-
10. 924-fps-
11. 912-fps-
12. 905-fps-
Started with a fill of 1850-psi and ended with roughly 1150-psi. (From AirGunWarriors.)
Tried out a 32.4-grain Eun Jin and got high 780-fps with 44-fpe!
Thinking of adding a 24-inch .25 LW barrel, opening the barrel port a bit, adding a 22ci or 500cc bottle with a regulated out-put of 1800-psi or higher and have one heck of a tack-driving .25 caliber Air-Rifle!
I can add the right scope, bi-pod, a 2-inch accessory rail, muzzle brake and have it looking awesome! It already has a 1.5" rail for the bi-pod and sling studs.
Although having a repeater option would be nice, this would be primarily a hunting gun, so having a repeater would not be that important.
Then, I stumbled onto Citrus Air's site and it turned my world up-side down!
Mike at Citrus Air makes a tactical Mrod that is just mind blowing in accuracy, looks and performance! I did not really care for tactical looking air-guns, until I saw the one at Citrus Air! He also has a bullpup Mrod that too is mind blowing!
http://citrusairguns.com/custom-built-guns.html (http://citrusairguns.com/custom-built-guns.html)
Now I am clueless on exactly what, how and when I will have my .25!
Do I keep the FD-PCP a .22, get the AT44 .25 Long and dress it up or save up for a year and get that awesome Mrod Tactical from Citrus Air? :-\
Ugggh!
agw.
Is not the same as my AT44-10 Tact?
Maybe same as yours in looks a tad-bit, but that's where it ends!
You'd have to talk with Mike at Citrus Air to fully understand just how insanely awesome that Tactical Mrod he makes really is.
There are some features that he asked I not disclose on public forum at this time. Aside from insane performance and shot-count, there are a few other features that really set that Tactical Mrod of his apart from any other air-gun I'm familier with!
I like your AT44 Tactical, just need the long barrel myself. You could have the AT44 Tactical with a long barrel, right, would just have to swap out the barrel yourself or have someone do it?
Thanks,
Al.
Al what make the Hatsan so insanely cool is that I can put any configuration on them and they are very very simple to Mod.... I do not need to buy another barrel... For just $300 I can buy a AT44-10 .25 Long and do Bob's mod's on it and just like that I can shoot JSB Kings @ 950fps and after my crown one hole groups @ 50yards.
I got a Hammerili Pneuma stock in a purchase and now I have the option to take that stock in the mountains which is 2lbs lighter.
here is a picture of it. And it would only cost me the price of another gun.....which with other guns ppl would pay half that price or more to Mod it like that. when all is said and done I might have two or three configurations of the AT44-10 all hitting hard and accurate. Both same gun...
Lol, I swear, I was about to write a post telling you that I'm currently on the Hatsan web-site and I see that they have/offer the AT44 Tactical Long!:)
Seeing that they have a long AT44 Tactical available changes everything now!
Rick and I have been communicating and he said that he would help me get a great deal on a new or refurb Hatsan! :D
The more I look at that AT44 Tactical and know now that a long version is available, the more I want one!
Not to mention that the stock is removable! Now I see its like a Take-down, can be packed in a back pack maybe or small carry case in the field!
I'm about as wishy-washy as they get, but I just learned sooo much more in the past 20-minutes about the AT44 Tactical!
Thanks,
Al.
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Get one. Just do it. You know you want it.
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For me, having a bullpup stock had first to do with comfort (as mentioned before, because of my size, weight and build) and the other reason, was to have an awesome looking air-gun...with the "right" looking bullpup stock (something like the one in picture Number 4, the Mrod ones and the P-12 bullpup stock).
Then, when I was warned about the fact that just because a bullpup is smaller and more compact, it did not mean that it would be more comfortable and I may not like the way it shoulders.
All of the above and my interest in a bullpup stock (just as a reminder) revolves around the Hatsan Synthetic AT44 Long .25, as it does not look great right out of the box imho...like the BT65 ELITE does.
So, I have been thinking about the fact that in all of my history of shooting, it has always been with a conventional type rifle stock, which is what I am used to, be it pb or air-rifle and with pretty good results.
I was thinking of taking my Flying Dragon-PCP and turning it into a .25, as it has had a full-power tune and produces the following:
Power Adjuster set to lowest power setting, i.e., the Power Adjuster Screw is all the way out.
14.3-grain Shot-String:
1. 906-fps-
2. 912-fps-
3. 917-fps-
4. 927-fps-
5. 936-fps-
6. 936-fps-
7. 943-fps-
8. 934-fps-
9. 932-fps-
10. 924-fps-
11. 912-fps-
12. 905-fps-
Started with a fill of 1850-psi and ended with roughly 1150-psi. (From AirGunWarriors.)
Tried out a 32.4-grain Eun Jin and got high 780-fps with 44-fpe!
Thinking of adding a 24-inch .25 LW barrel, opening the barrel port a bit, adding a 22ci or 500cc bottle with a regulated out-put of 1800-psi or higher and have one heck of a tack-driving .25 caliber Air-Rifle!
I can add the right scope, bi-pod, a 2-inch accessory rail, muzzle brake and have it looking awesome! It already has a 1.5" rail for the bi-pod and sling studs.
Although having a repeater option would be nice, this would be primarily a hunting gun, so having a repeater would not be that important.
Then, I stumbled onto Citrus Air's site and it turned my world up-side down!
Mike at Citrus Air makes a tactical Mrod that is just mind blowing in accuracy, looks and performance! I did not really care for tactical looking air-guns, until I saw the one at Citrus Air! He also has a bullpup Mrod that too is mind blowing!
http://citrusairguns.com/custom-built-guns.html (http://citrusairguns.com/custom-built-guns.html)
Now I am clueless on exactly what, how and when I will have my .25!
Do I keep the FD-PCP a .22, get the AT44 .25 Long and dress it up or save up for a year and get that awesome Mrod Tactical from Citrus Air? :-\
Ugggh!
agw.
Is not the same as my AT44-10 Tact?
Maybe same as yours in looks a tad-bit, but that's where it ends!
You'd have to talk with Mike at Citrus Air to fully understand just how insanely awesome that Tactical Mrod he makes really is.
There are some features that he asked I not disclose on public forum at this time. Aside from insane performance and shot-count, there are a few other features that really set that Tactical Mrod of his apart from any other air-gun I'm familier with!
I like your AT44 Tactical, just need the long barrel myself. You could have the AT44 Tactical with a long barrel, right, would just have to swap out the barrel yourself or have someone do it?
Thanks,
Al.
Al what make the Hatsan so insanely cool is that I can put any configuration on them and they are very very simple to Mod.... I do not need to buy another barrel... For just $300 I can buy a AT44-10 .25 Long and do Bob's mod's on it and just like that I can shoot JSB Kings @ 950fps and after my crown one hole groups @ 50yards.
I got a Hammerili Pneuma stock in a purchase and now I have the option to take that stock in the mountains which is 2lbs lighter.
here is a picture of it. And it would only cost me the price of another gun.....which with other guns ppl would pay half that price or more to Mod it like that. when all is said and done I might have two or three configurations of the AT44-10 all hitting hard and accurate. Both same gun...
I like the way the AT44 Tactical looks in this picture you just posted, with the stock not fully extended. That's the only thing I don't like...the way it looks with the stock extended to far out. The skinny rail makes it look awkward to me, but even when the stock is fully extended, the rest of the AT44 Tactical looks awesome!
With my size and build, pretty sure I would not be extending the stock anyway.
Thanks,
Al.
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Get one. Just do it. You know you want it.
I see you too have a Hatsan...BT65 ELITE at that with 50+fpe...WOW!
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Get one. Just do it. You know you want it.
I see you too have a Hatsan...BT65 ELITE at that with 50+fpe...WOW!
I wish! Alas, that is my wishlist you were reading. But someday, someday.
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I'm gonna go start a new thread dedicated to Hatsan Air-Guns...only.
Fyi, I became a fan a few months ago after watching Rick's review and "muairgunreviews" review of the 125 .22 and .25 Sniper models. It was recently that I saw Rick's review on the AT44 Tactical that put the Hatsan hooks deeper into me. Then I watched the BT65 .25 review that he did and the hooks went even deeper!
Then, after all of the replies about Hatsan's Air-Guns in the thread I started about "Best .25 for under $600.00, the hooks tore right through me!
Also, that killer Mrod Tactical at Citrus Air is a $2400.00+ air-gun, so it is a dream anyway.
I need to be more practical right now.
Sorry, I know that this thread is bullpup related and I will have some news about that in new thread.
Respectfully,
Al.