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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: rsterne on July 23, 2014, 12:38:03 PM
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I've seen a lot of guys (me included) build PCP carbines starting from a 22XX.... We can't access the Custom Shop (or buy a PRod) here in Canada, so I'll pose this question to you Yanks.... What is the cost of getting a 2400 (I assume that is the number) through the CCS, fitted with the Skeleton stock, a .22 cal, 14" barrel, steel breech, the drop-sear trigger (like on the PRod), a power adjuster, and then fitting a HiPac with whatever extensions are necessary to come about flush with the end of the 14" barrel, and add a TKO to it?.... How does that compare to purchasing a PRod?.... I know it's fun to convert stuff yourself, but for somebody ordering a new gun from the CCS with the intention of converting it to PCP, does it make any sense financially.... especially when you consider the PRod is a 3K fill, a repeater, and shrouded?....
Bob
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I did it,not cost efficient. amount spent is about the same with the three better features not there.fun in the beginning,at the the end I said this was dumb,look at what I could've had
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Bob, my 2400KT with 18" barrel was very close to $100 USD from CCS. The 14" is slightly cheaper. Adding a BNM repeater breech and shroud would be $210 plus shipping. Hi-Pac is $75 plus shipping. Prod is about $400 direct from Crosman after the 20% coupon.
The cost is similar, but you loose the 3k fill.... this calculation is why I have been able to resist buying a Hi-Pac. However, I'm planning on turning a 2400KT into a AS2250XT with BNM repeater and shroud. I am thinking that with a rear mounted 3oz CO2 bottle, the LOP will be a pretty good youth gun. Cost may be high, but I don't think there is anything similar off the shelf.
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I pretty much figured the cost would be similar.... and if you build your own PCP using a 2260 (or Disco) tube, Disco valve, fill fitting, gauge and port, probably more than the HiPac version....
I can see somebody who already owns a 2400 converting it, particularly if they don't want a repeater or shroud.... but ordering a new one to make into a PRod seems strange to me....
Bob
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Item Qty Price
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Custom 2400KT x1 $118.18
Base: Base Assembly x1
Barrel: 18.0" Crosman Barrel x1
Muzzle: Brass Muzzle Brake x1
Grips: Camouflage Stock x1
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Subtotal $118.18
Shipping and Handling $2.50
Total $120.68
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The least expensive ways into PCP (at least as I see it, and in the US):
XS60C PCP (Flying Dragons PCP): $165. Really nothing much to do but fiddle with the trigger and perhaps set the supplied striker spring screw. The gun and a pump $305. Been using one of the pumps for a couple of months without a problem.
Discovery PCP. Is a whole sub-culture of Disco mods, custom parts if any are needed. Believe it or not, lots of Disco owners seem happy with them just the way they are. About $400 for the gun-n-pump package.
DIY QB79 HPA conversion, Basically a QB79 plus an HPA bottle. A bit of a learning curve to get it leak proof and running right, but think the gun/HPA tank/ Pump would come in at about $385-$405.
HiPac conversion of a Crosman Custom Shop 2240. If you avoid all the BS and just stick with the basic gun, think the total for a HiPaced 2240 would be something like $240-$250. Add a pump, and are closing on $380-$410. Be aware that getting a HiPac to seal and run right can be a steep learning curve.
Of the four, if you’re going to use a pump, then the XS60C PCP (it’s very easy to pump a small volume to 1500psi) or the Discovery (pumping 135cc’s to 2K isn’t a chore either).
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The least expensive ways into PCP (at least as I see it, and in the US):
XS60C PCP (Flying Dragons PCP): $165. Really nothing much to do but fiddle with the trigger and perhaps set the supplied striker spring screw. The gun and a pump $305. Been using one of the pumps for a couple of months without a problem.
Discovery PCP. Is a whole sub-culture of Disco mods, custom parts if any are needed. Believe it or not, lots of Disco owners seem happy with them just the way they are. About $400 for the gun-n-pump package.
DIY QB79 HPA conversion, Basically a QB79 plus an HPA bottle. A bit of a learning curve to get it leak proof and running right, but think the gun/HPA tank/ Pump would come in at about $385-$405.
HiPac conversion of a Crosman Custom Shop 2240. If you avoid all the BS and just stick with the basic gun, think the total for a HiPaced 2240 would be something like $240-$250. Add a pump, and are closing on $380-$410. Be aware that getting a HiPac to seal and run right can be a steep learning curve.
Of the four, if you’re going to use a pump, then the XS60C PCP (it’s very easy to pump a small volume to 1500psi) or the Discovery (pumping 135cc’s to 2K isn’t a chore either).
I would throw in the XS BAM 50 (Daystate Regal Huntsman copy) form FD for $210 (US). More than likely, this will be my first foray into the 'Darkside'. ;)
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OK...have one of those..good gun, but wasn't sure if Mike had any left or not (and if he does, would be .177's). Also a PCP that will either thrill you with the out-the-box power or send you in search of tuning information to get it a bit slower and a longer shot count. Call that one $370-$400 with a pump.