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Title: new rifle break in question.
Post by: brushog65 on July 06, 2014, 08:16:47 PM
I have a new rws 48. I'm shooting jsb .177 heavies 10.34gr. I sighted it in last Friday and it shoots great groups at 35 yards. Then I noticed over the next 50-75 shots it started shooting lower and lower. It will still shoot great groups, just 2 inches low. I adjusted the scope up and its dead on again. Is this normal for a new rifle?,or could I have a scope problem?
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: Booger on July 06, 2014, 08:18:34 PM
I have a new rws 48. I'm shooting jsb .177 heavies 10.34gr. I sighted it in last Friday and it shoots great groups at 35 yards. Then I noticed over the next 50-75 shots it started shooting lower and lower. It will still shoot great groups, just 2 inches low. I adjusted the scope up and its dead on again. Is this normal for a new rifle?,or could I have a scope problem?

Check all of your screws in the rifle & scope. Then loctite (Blue) them and let it cure overnight. :)
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: BenjiHunter on July 06, 2014, 08:58:43 PM
Maybe the heavy pellet has something to do with it.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: brushog65 on July 06, 2014, 09:28:18 PM
Those are the only pellets I have ever shot out of it. I didn't go from a light pellet to a heavy pellet. That's what confused me I didn't change anything it just started shooting low.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: palonej on July 06, 2014, 09:32:09 PM
Which scope do you have on the rifle??
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: Booger on July 06, 2014, 09:35:25 PM
Which scope do you have on the rifle??

I heard the 48 is a scope killer. That is why I suggested tightening the screws first.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: brushog65 on July 06, 2014, 09:38:36 PM
I have a center point on it. I have heard this rifle is hard on scopes. I guess if it moves again I will start looking for a different scope maybe. I have a center point on my big cat that works great. I didn't think there was a rifle any rougher on one then that thing.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: Booger on July 06, 2014, 09:51:10 PM
I have a center point on it. I have heard this rifle is hard on scopes. I guess if it moves again I will start looking for a different scope maybe. I have a center point on my big cat that works great. I didn't think there was a rifle any rougher on one then that thing.

The only time a CP scope worked for me was on my Disco, springers destroyed my other two. Hawke makes a fine scope.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: brushog65 on July 06, 2014, 09:55:43 PM
Thanks, I will look at the Hawke line.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: longhunter on July 06, 2014, 10:44:59 PM
You may have picked up some velocity due to the gun breaking in. That would account for the lower poi.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: brushog65 on July 06, 2014, 11:14:56 PM
I thought with a higher velocity, the poi would be higher not lower.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: lizzie on July 06, 2014, 11:16:21 PM
My first thought is that it could be scope movement.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: longhunter on July 07, 2014, 08:34:39 AM
I thought with a higher velocity, the poi would be higher not lower.

Hegher velocity equals flatter trajectory equals lower poi.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: brushog65 on July 07, 2014, 06:11:57 PM
That makes sense. Thanks for explaining it. I hope thats the case. I don't have a chrono yet.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: jfrey on July 07, 2014, 10:59:55 PM
How many shots went through the rifle before the groups started moving down?     If it was 50 or less it may have been dieseling some right out of the box and now that the pellets are moving slower they are hitting the target lower.       As long as the groups aren't getting any bigger I wouldn't worry too much unless your scope is starting to run out of vertical adjustment.     
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: brushog65 on July 07, 2014, 11:13:03 PM
I would say it was 50 to 75 shots. I would have expected the speed to get better as it broke in not slower, but I don't have a lot of experience with spring guns.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: mobilehomer on July 09, 2014, 02:08:30 PM
Actually, higher velocity means that the pellet stays in the barrel for a shorter time. This results in the pellet being gone before full barrel climb from recoil. Slower is affected more by recoil, thus higher POI.
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: Bullit on July 09, 2014, 02:50:02 PM
Keep shooting it, finish the tin of pellets...and then clean the barrel again.  Assuming you cleaned the barrel, before you started.  Don't worry about the scope settings until you've got some of the 2nd tin of pellets lead down the barrel.  Many don't mount a scope, until the gun has settled in.   You'll enjoy your new rifle ;)
Title: Re: new rifle break in question.
Post by: palonej on July 09, 2014, 03:08:38 PM
^ +1.
Don't worry too much about groups or pinpoint accuracy yet. Get lots of lead down the tube first....then check out some different pellets!
Enjoy