GTA

All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Oldnoob on April 27, 2014, 02:18:22 AM

Title: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: Oldnoob on April 27, 2014, 02:18:22 AM
Being somewhat new to Air-rifles , i was intrigued when i stumbled across the Benjamin Katana.  it's obviously a go between a Marauder and a Discovery.
I do like the look of the stock. So what happened with this rifle?
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: darren on April 27, 2014, 02:24:03 AM
Mrod killed it
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: Tpatner412 on April 27, 2014, 04:34:12 AM
It was a limited production gun about 3-4 years ago now. When Benji ran out, they ran out. Sad because it was a great gun. But at the Mrod price point, a gun to bridge the gap was not really needed IMO. But most would pay pretty well for a used one.

Tyler
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: Arkmaker on April 27, 2014, 07:45:15 AM
Am I mistaken or wasn't the Katana a Disco with a different stock?
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: Oldnoob on April 27, 2014, 07:54:09 AM
Am I mistaken or wasn't the Katana a Disco with a different stock?
yep from what i can gather the stock and the trigger were the only noticeable differences,  oh and possibly the valve settings or hammer.
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: Dick Tracey on April 27, 2014, 11:17:25 AM
It was a Disco with a better stock and MRod trigger group.  I believe these were made for PA. 

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2009/11/the-benjamin-katana-part-1/ (https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2009/11/the-benjamin-katana-part-1/)

I managed to purchase a used one in very good condition.  I also was able to get a Katana Stock and will eventually get a MRod trigger group, intension is to make a .177 Katana.

Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: ezman604 on April 27, 2014, 12:36:55 PM
Was able to snatch a new Katana stock a couple of years back. Great platform for my Disco Double .25 project.
I modded the stock a bit too.
:)

(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/SAM_1428.jpg)
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: Acapulco on April 27, 2014, 01:45:32 PM
Yeah...discontinued. I didn't like the look of the trigger guard.
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: geewhiz380 on April 27, 2014, 02:57:40 PM
I think Gene has one ,i bought a custom disco from Gene awhile ago with a katana stock and what a shooter it is with a bnm shroud ,breech ,adjuster,maruder trigger,and challenger trigger guard its a bull barrel in black and stock as well  ,its way better then a stock disco ...ask Gene or soon he will chime in ......jorge
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: jimmie lee on April 28, 2014, 05:30:16 PM
I've been hanging on to my Katana stock; I may have Norm inlet it for my double tube one of these days.
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: TF89 on April 29, 2014, 02:17:05 AM
I believe the barrel was chocked on that model.  A friend of mine owns one in .22, the trigger is sweet and stacks the pellets. 
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: Oldnoob on April 29, 2014, 07:45:31 AM
if anyone has access to the Katana .pdf manual could you share it? thanks.
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: FuzzyGrub on April 29, 2014, 08:22:51 AM
I tried to find one of these stocks for a custom prod project a while ago.  Couldn't find one, outside of PA's old page "out of stock". 
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: ezman604 on April 29, 2014, 02:50:19 PM
Original owner's manual attached thanks to Kim (Lil' Sis) of Crosman.

Tyler (Tpatner412) furnished this link to the spec page from Pyramyd Air. The Katana was a Pyramyd Air exclusive, made just for them.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/benjamin-katana?m=2012#Specifications (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/benjamin-katana?m=2012#Specifications)
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: Oldnoob on April 29, 2014, 03:58:23 PM
Original owner's manual attached thanks to Kim (Lil' Sis) of Crosman.

Tyler (Tpatner412) furnished this link to the spec page from Pyramyd Air. The Katana was a Pyramyd Air exclusive, made just for them.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/benjamin-katana?m=2012#Specifications (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/benjamin-katana?m=2012#Specifications)

Thanks EZ! and Lil' Sis  I was hoping for a parts breakdown and part number list. One review states that the Katana barrel was choked whereas the Discovery barrel is not.  Just wondered if that barrel was truly different. And if that is the case,, i would love to try the Katana barrel on my Discovery. 
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: TF89 on May 03, 2014, 05:11:48 PM
I wanted to get back to this regarding the choked barrel.  Here it the info from an old page. https://www.pyramydair.com/product/benjamin-katana?m=2012 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/benjamin-katana?m=2012)
The description:
•Benjamin Katana
•Precharged pneumatic
•Bolt-action
•Dual fuel--use either CO2 or high-pressure air
•Max 2000 psi
•Built-in pressure gauge
•About 35 powerful shots on high-pressure air before needing a refill (more on CO2)
•Single-shot
•Choked barrel
•Manual safety
•2-stage adjustable match trigger
•11mm dovetails (no open sights)
•European-style hardwood stock with comb & dual raised cheekpieces
•Installed sling swivel studs
•Made in America!

I believe, don't quote me that the Katana was a mix of the Discovery and Challenger, not sure where the barrel came into it as the Challenger has a LW barrel.  BB makes mention of it here as well.  https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2009/11/the-benjamin-katana-part-1/ (https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2009/11/the-benjamin-katana-part-1/)
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: TF89 on May 03, 2014, 05:21:13 PM
I see that Dave beat me to it by posting the manual which also describes the barrel.  Interesting that neither the manual or parts list is on the Crosman website.  Even if out of production they usually have it posted.  I think most of the parts based on the 2260 (Discovery, Challenger, etc) can be mixed as Crosman likes to use the same parts on multiple models.  Not an expert, just a person with enough knowledge to be dangerous to myself and those around me.

Dave
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: Oldnoob on May 04, 2014, 09:01:21 PM
I see that Dave beat me to it by posting the manual which also describes the barrel.  Interesting that neither the manual or parts list is on the Crosman website.  Even if out of production they usually have it posted.  I think most of the parts based on the 2260 (Discovery, Challenger, etc) can be mixed as Crosman likes to use the same parts on multiple models.  Not an expert, just a person with enough knowledge to be dangerous to myself and those around me.

Dave
Indeed, but that barrel is a bit if a puzzle, because neither the Disco or the 2260 was choked.
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: Ribbonstone on May 05, 2014, 06:58:42 PM
What I really think.


Marketing is a cut-throat calling.  Sometimes I do think that offering a odd tid-bit like the Katrina, even though it’s only going to be a limited offering, is like chumming the water for sharks.  Make the customer either bit right now or wish they had.

Remember the CZ s200’s for $400 and change?  Limited time, they are gone.  Remember the Crosman Challenger for $397?  Limited time, they are gone.  Rememeber the Hammerli Pneuma for $299?  Are a dozen others. It preys on the minds of the "I'll get around to it someday" folks, knowing they got around to it too late.


It’s the “bite now or wish you had” philosophy. Can see it being played out with everthing from plasma TV’s to 2014 Ford F-150’s. 

 If you really want one, then either spend the major $ top build one (and here you’d have a wider choice of stocks) or wait your time until one comes up for sale at a reasonable price (and POUNCE on it like a blind tom-cat when a mouse runs over its foot).
Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: TF89 on June 17, 2014, 01:13:57 AM
Late getting back to this one.  That is real wisdom, of course it also means that you will need a big closet to hold all those fast reflex purchases. :)





Title: Re: What happened to the Katana?
Post by: Oldnoob on June 29, 2014, 11:03:20 AM
What I really think.


Marketing is a cut-throat calling.  Sometimes I do think that offering a odd tid-bit like the Katrina, even though it’s only going to be a limited offering, is like chumming the water for sharks.  Make the customer either bit right now or wish they had.

Remember the CZ s200’s for $400 and change?  Limited time, they are gone.  Remember the Crosman Challenger for $397?  Limited time, they are gone.  Rememeber the Hammerli Pneuma for $299?  Are a dozen others. It preys on the minds of the "I'll get around to it someday" folks, knowing they got around to it too late.


It’s the “bite now or wish you had” philosophy. Can see it being played out with everthing from plasma TV’s to 2014 Ford F-150’s. 

 If you really want one, then either spend the major $ top build one (and here you’d have a wider choice of stocks) or wait your time until one comes up for sale at a reasonable price (and POUNCE on it like a blind tom-cat when a mouse runs over its foot).
I guess it takes experience and knowledge to know WHEN a fast reflex purchase is a good one.