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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: oldedges on April 06, 2014, 04:29:32 PM
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I am new to this hobby, my rifle is a Crossman/Benjamin NPSS single cock. I was out back today and after 70 or eighty shots in just over an hour I had had enough :) I'm not a youngster anymore but I don't feel old either. I'm 57. So I'm wondering just how big of a whimp I am :)
How many shots on a single pump do you guys average?
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About the same as you.
And I'm no wimp. ;D
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Well then...So Far, So Good!
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Just came inside after shooting 110 shots in 2 hours (10-10 shot groups at 30 yards and 10 shots at the 60 yard spinner).
I'm 49, in good shape, and that was enough for me. ;D
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I will be 69 in August.
When I received my TX last summer, I shot 500 pellets the first day.
Now about 100 a day.
I will shoot more this week.
We have a FT match next Sunday.
I got my training shooting a Beeman R1 for 30 years.
The TX is a piece of cake, comparatively speaking.
Good exercise... :D
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ILL DO 200 OR SO OVER THE CORSE OF A FEW HOURS AND A COUPLE BEERS WITH A FELLOW SHOOTER. 70 AN HOUR IS A LOT OF SHOTS ...sorry for the all caps, that was for the hard of hearing...
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It depends on the day, but probably most days around 20, or so shots.
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If I'm pressed for time, 50 shots is my minimum. I usually average around a 100 shots per session, but have done 250. :P
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Depends on my mood. With a springer I use to shoot 500 pellets over the week end. Now that I do PCPs I may shoot 700 pellets, about 200 on the TX200 & D-34 combined. I just sit, shoot, smoke cigarettes, & drink coffee. Today it is raining so I practice the guitar (which I will never learn but enjoy trying).
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Little bit of a mixed bag so I guess I am not overly embarrassed over my poor effort.. It feels like I can load/fire a D34 as much as I feel,, just as long as I don't try to set any records in speed doing it. I begin to feel the burn after about 10 or more shots so I pace myself and although the burn doesn't go away, it gets only a wee bit worse over, well, approx 50 or more shots, as long as I take my time. I haven't really shot more than that in a session but it feels like I "could" keep going for a bit more. That's on an average warm to hot day and over a 1 & 1/2 to 2 hour seesion. Geez, where does the time go to so quickly.?? Ah well, I guess I was having fun...
I will be 57 in a couple of months time...
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175 pellets today and I'm 6 days older than dust (77)
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Depends on my mood. With a springer I use to shoot 500 pellets over the week end. Now that I do PCPs I may shoot 700 pellets, about 200 on the TX200 & D-34 combined. I just sit, shoot, smoke cigarettes, & drink coffee. Today it is raining so I practice the guitar (which I will never learn but enjoy trying).
Sounds fun Jesse.
My shootin' pardner is just north of you (ha ha) in Augusta, Kansas.
Too far to drive, even for me.
We don't smoke anymore but we do consume our share of Coors... ;)
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Am am new to this hobby, my rifle is a Crossman/Benjamin NPSS single cock. I was out back today and after 70 or eighty shots in just over an hour I had had enough :) I'm not a youngster anymore but I don't feel old either. I'm 57. So I'm wondering just how big of a whimp I am :)
How many shots on a single pump do you guys average?
I like to shoot about 100 a day, then after that it's tinkering time. I just know I can make them shoot better. ;D
175 pellets today and I'm 6 days older than dust (77)
Guess that makes me dust. ::) Woops, thought you said six years.
Sounds fun Jesse.
My shootin' pardner is just north of you (ha ha) in Augusta, Kansas.
Too far to drive, even for me.
We don't smoke anymore but we do consume our share of Coors... ;)
I live six miles south of Augusta. Wonder if I know him? ???
Jerry
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With a brand new air rifle, up to a tin a day. Usually, once I've figured out her quirks and have her dialed in, 50-100 shots in a session of plinking sounds about right. If i am punching paper, less than that because it's not as fun!
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I ran 100 thru the airhawk today after I did a tune on it. I'm also 57 and I can definitely feel it. I bought the 3rd FD-pcp just for this reason, I know either Betty Lou or I are going to wear one of them out and I made sure we had a back up before they were gone. With the Beeman, Nitro Venom and Airhawk I can feel it pretty good after about 50 shots. I can pop the Chinese springers and underlevers well over 100 before I feel it. The pumpers aren't too bad because we usually shoot them at 20' indoors and only pump 3,4 or 5 times. We've shot those for hours. I think the Nitro Venom gets me the most because it is so smooth and accurate that I have a problem quitting.
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;D When I'm shooting my springers maybe 150 or so between the 4 rifles with the PCP it is easy to do 100 in an hour just punching holes in paper at 20 yards in the backyard
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I'm a few months into my fifties and usually shoot 20 to 30 pellets in a session. Brushy Bill's 60 shot target challenge was the most effort I put into a single shooting session. More mental work than physical. My go to rifle stays in the basement and I'll pop off 5 or 10 shots whenever I walk by it. I'm trying to improve that very first shot to better simulate a hunting situation. Speaking of which, it's about 3 paces away and calling my name...
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Am am new to this hobby, my rifle is a Crossman/Benjamin NPSS single cock. I was out back today and after 70 or eighty shots in just over an hour I had had enough :) I'm not a youngster anymore but I don't feel old either. I'm 57. So I'm wondering just how big of a whimp I am :)
How many shots on a single pump do you guys average?
LOL.....guess it all depends on how hard the springer is to cock! I shot 175 continuous shots at one session while getting a handle on my pellet trajectory from 10 yards to 50 yards and with my R9 I had no "cocking fatigue", however the target does show the occasional "shooter concentration fatigue"! :o
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v734/wved/Airgun%20Targets/Target9_08_10.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/wved/media/Airgun%20Targets/Target9_08_10.jpg.html)
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Wow! The few springers I have shot where me out in 60 shots and I am a youngster.
Though i can shoot a Multi Stroke Pneumatic (Multi-pump) for 500 shots in a sitting, I just can not afford the ammo to shoot that much except on a rare occasion. Most days I have to limit myself to 64 shots do to money.
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Thanks for all the input guys! I guess I'm doing okay. Toward the end of the session I was working on cocking with my left...if I can get that down it would give me twice as many shots... :)
I think I'll get a PCP for when I'm feeling lazy :P
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I am three score and 12 and can shoot my 853's a lot more in one setting than my Diana 52. My eyes get tired before muscle and back fatigue sets in...I think. At any rate, I shoot 30 or so rounds at a time. I may rest and shoot some more or not.
Having a shooting buddy helps. That allows one to rest and regroup while one's buddy shoots. I ain't got no shooting buddy. :'(
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With a LOW power springer (Slavia 631, Gamo Delta, IZH-60), which is all the springers that I shoot now, I can "easily" shoot more than 100 shots. I could shoot all day if I wanted to.
Basically, I will get bored before my arm gets sore.
But I would rather shoot my Daisy 953 or 853 over the springers.
Zero recoil makes for much more accurate shooting.
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Depends on if I am having a good day and getting good groups then I will shoot a lot if I just can't shoot that day... well something must be wrong with the gun it just needs to sit ;)
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How many shots on a single pump do you guys average?
How many pellets are there? ;D
Seriously, I just shoot until it no longer holds my interest - there, I said it - and go do something else. Typically 50-100 shots. Fatigue hasn't really been my limiting factor, concentrating is.
I should add that my springer is an RWS 350 magnum. Go big or go home. :D
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"shooter concentration fatigue"!
I guess I've just never heard it put like that before. (must read more)
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depends on where i'm at on the "honey-do" list. if i have the time, i can burn a 500 count tin in a session.
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My brother in law is well into his 60s. He has a crosman Vantage NP. We were shooting the other day and something is wrong with him... He only wants one gun. This is not normal behavior. He has never even had it apart. He puts the stock on the ground between his feet and cocks it with 2 hands. The most I've seen him shoot was 20ish shots in 2 hours then he puts his gun in the house. I hope I never get to that point. If I do, ya'll might want to visit the classified gate regularly.
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Depends on the gun and the kind of shooting. The Slavia 631 in the basement isn't that hard to cock, but I lose interest at about 75. Outdoors I shoot at a 10" pot lid at 100 yards, so wind is a big factor. It takes longer to gauge each shot, so maybe 30 - 40. Plinking outdoors with the 2240 or Marksman 2004 (P17) I usually run out of time first.
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"shooter concentration fatigue"!
I guess I've just never heard it put like that before. (must read more)
Well, that's when you are simultaneously fighting weakened muscles to stay on the bull, and focusing your attention on the very same !SQUIRREL!
Awwww dang start over
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Sometimes up to 250 (= empty pellet box) on an evening 8)
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I'm about to turn 65 and I shot 75 rounds last night. I think it'll start to get easier as the gun breaks in. I was getting a little tired by the end of the session.
My biggest problem is the beating on my hand from smacking the barrel to break it. Hands are starting to get arthritis. When I woke up this morning, my right hand (I shoot lefty) was really sore and felt swollen, but that went away after a while. I'm thinking of getting a pair of padded bicycling gloves to fix that; just wear one on the off hand.
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My biggest problem is the beating on my hand from smacking the barrel to break it.
Curtis
What kind of gun are you shooting, having to smack the barrel could definitely be damaging to hands arthiritis or not. Is this a new gun, if so I would be finding out why gun has to be smacked.
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I "pop" the Beeman, the Nitro Venom and the Airhawk open. Not real hard, just enough to break it. They do have pretty good lock up. I've seen guys wear a weight lifting glove on one hand.
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I "pop" the Beeman, the Nitro Venom and the Airhawk open. Not real hard, just enough to break it. They do have pretty good lock up. I've seen guys wear a weight lifting glove on one hand.
I would have thought that the guns could/would end up with problems if they had to be popped/smacked open on a regular basis.
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;) I think that my Diana 460 is the hardest rifle to cock that I own even with the Vortec kit installed. My Whisper is as easy as the TX 200 to cock but for an old fart I'm in decent shape that's not to say I can run a mile or even 1/2 that distance but I don't have any problem shooting 50 or sixty through the 460 in one sitting than pick up another one of my springers for more of the same.
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My biggest problem is the beating on my hand from smacking the barrel to break it.
Curtis
What kind of gun are you shooting, having to smack the barrel could definitely be damaging to hands arthiritis or not. Is this a new gun, if so I would be finding out why gun has to be smacked.
Maybe I made that sound worse than it is. It doesn't take very much to get it started and sometimes I can just grab the barrel and pull and it'll come loose, but sometimes it needs a little bump. If I have to hit it, I'm careful to hit it with my palm.
It's a Crosman Vantage NP.
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10-15 in my basement and 50-75 at range unless its an extended shooting session
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You guys that are shooting a couple hundred shots per session ... why do you choose a springer for this? I expect that many shots would fall into the "target shooting" or "plinking" category, not hunting. So why a more powerful and harder to cock springer rather than a lower velocity light pumping pneumatic, CO2 or PCP?
I target shoot with a single-pump pneumatic that takes almost no effort to cock (a Daisy 953 rifle). Admittedly, my single-pump pneumatic pistol (a Beeman P17) was a bear to cock when I first started shooting it. Once I mastered the flat-hand-quick-close-no-pinch technique the P17 cocking did get much easier. If you try to cock that P17 with a slow deliberate controlled motion, you'd better be a Superman or you'll wear yourself out in short order. If I get tired cocking the P17, I switch over to my multi-pump Crosman 1377 using only 3 or 4 pumps. But that 953 rifle takes so little effort to cock, I could shoot it all day without fatigue if my interest/concentration would hold (which it doesn't). Usually after about 50 rounds from each airgun (less for the pistols), I'm starting to get bored and I'm ready to move on to a different activity for the rest of the day. Caviot: Usually my airgun shooting follows directly after putting several hundred rounds downrange with various powder burners, so at the end of my session I think I'm just tired of shooting period, not just airgun shooting. I typically shoot the heaviest calibers first, tapering down to .22LR and finally airguns at the end.
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I can't speak for anyone else. I grew up hunting with a Sheridan Blue Streak so I'm used to pumping.
Nowadays I'm running 5-25 rounds a day through my new B3 just because I can.
It is a challenge, learning to shoot something new, that is a little fussy on hold. (Sheridan never cared how I held it).
I've had a day or 2 when it was probably closer to 50 rounds than 25. But I don't think of it as work.
I think of it as staying in at least moderately decent condition for a 60 yr old.
The fact that my eyes are letting me shoot at all has me jumping and clicking my heels.
Call me old school, or old fashioned, I feel like if you have to "work" for it a little bit you take a bit more care in each shot. Old Pumper theology or way of life, you don't waste shots like the other kids with their bb guns. Just wait till the right target arrives and impress them with a little correct application of force. :)
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During the work week when the weather allows after work (year round...) I'll shoot as many shots as it takes to clear 2 banks of 12 steel knock down targets. On a great day, this takes 24 shots and on a not so great day can take upwards to 48 shots. On the weekend, I'll raise it to 4 banks so 48 to 96 shots. I used to shoot a lot more than this, but other interests acquired over the years divides my time.. lol
Charlie
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I try to shoot every day that work, weather and wife allow......maybe that's the wrong order!!
I will shoot till darkness stops me.......100 - 500 shots. I only shoot boingers.......and enjoy the snot out of them!!! I'm lucky enough to be able to shoot out to 150 yards. I usually set targets up at 30 out to 100. Have some great steelplinker steel targets and a bunch of paper at different distances.
My nephew and sons usually join me and we have a blast!!
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palonej - That sounds great! My lot is only 80' wide and I have a small shop on one end so best I can manage is 20 Yards.
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;D Picked up a Gamo plinker target with 4 double spinners and either a target frame or another 4 small quarter size spinners to mount instead of the frame for the paper target. Spent 2 hrs in the back yard burning up pellets and will do some more after dinner I have about 22 yards from side to side ;D ;D ;D