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Title: Pellet scale?
Post by: condor22 on March 19, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
 Thinking about buying a inexpensive pellet scale. Maybe around the hundred dollar budget? What scale are you using? Opinions, pro's, con's, recommendations and your experience. Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: ezman604 on March 19, 2014, 11:30:24 AM
I will look at mine when I get home but I paid somewhere in the neighborhood of $30 US for mine and it is accurate to .1gr. Quite well enough for airgun use IMO. Will post after I get home what brand and model.
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: Monkeydad1969 on March 19, 2014, 11:33:06 AM
I am interested, too.  I would like to have one for my shrine.

Joe
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: ezman604 on March 19, 2014, 11:54:33 AM
Did an Amazon.com search for my purchase. Here it is. I'm quite pleased with it for the use I get. It certainly opened my eyes as to how varied any tin or box of ammo actually weighs out. :)

http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1395240806&sr=1-1&keywords=American+Weight+Scales+Gemini-20 (http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1395240806&sr=1-1&keywords=American+Weight+Scales+Gemini-20)
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: ericw on March 19, 2014, 12:05:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROKILiFOJ9Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROKILiFOJ9Y)
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: Bullit on March 19, 2014, 12:11:12 PM
FWIW, a tip with the cheaper digital scales...
To get the most accuracy with lighter product on the scale.  Add a couple ounces on the scale first, and zero it out.  Then add your product to the scale.  Adding the "preloaded" weight really helps these type scales.
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: Bwalton on March 19, 2014, 01:35:54 PM
this is the scale that I use I zero it with a dollar bill = 1gram works great!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EPO9M2Y/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EPO9M2Y/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: condor22 on March 19, 2014, 01:48:57 PM
this is the scale that I use I zero it with a dollar bill = 1gram works great!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EPO9M2Y/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EPO9M2Y/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

This one has my interest, because it's on 'Sale' for $9.99 @ Amazon!  :)
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: Pappy on March 19, 2014, 03:49:35 PM
My research has come up with the GemPro 250 Digital.  Great reviews.
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: DavidS on March 20, 2014, 11:55:58 PM
I just use a balance type scale that is made for weighing powder, acurate to 1/20th of a grain (more so if your eyes can focus on exactly how far between two marks you are).  Bought it at Cabelas.

It works great and no worry about calibration accuracy :) .  The purely balance mechanical scales have advantages.

It costs about $30 if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: condor22 on March 21, 2014, 07:31:55 AM
I just use a balance type scale that is made for weighing powder, accurate to 1/20th of a grain (more so if your eyes can focus on exactly how far between two marks you are).  Bought it at Cabelas.

It works great and no worry about calibration accuracy :) .  The purely balance mechanical scales have advantages.

It costs about $30 if I remember correctly.

 Thanks, would have never thought about analog balance beam scales. :D No batteries ever! I'll look @ them a bit closer.  :)
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: grumpy on March 21, 2014, 09:00:07 AM
I use this scale http://www.amazon.com/Hornady-Electronic-Scale-1500-Grains/dp/B001KZ7JLW/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1395403155&sr=1-1&keywords=hornady+reloading+scale (http://www.amazon.com/Hornady-Electronic-Scale-1500-Grains/dp/B001KZ7JLW/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1395403155&sr=1-1&keywords=hornady+reloading+scale)  Its excellent !
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: vinenator on March 21, 2014, 09:08:30 AM
i have the same one that ezman604 recommends. it does a good job.

when testing, i'll weigh 10 pellets to get an average and then shoot 8 (size of magazine).

very small and easy to carry in a tool box.
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: Jim_R on March 21, 2014, 02:01:35 PM
I just bought this... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012LOQUQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012LOQUQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

I guess I'll see how it does soon.
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: Bwalton on March 21, 2014, 02:05:01 PM
I just bought this... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012LOQUQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012LOQUQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

I guess I'll see how it does soon.

I have that one works very well. Its all you need for pellets
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: Gunut on March 21, 2014, 03:14:41 PM
I do not trust digital scales, I use a Dillon Eliminator Scale. https://www.dillonprecision.com/content/p/9/pid/25215/catid/7/Dillon__039_s___039_Eliminator__039__Scale (https://www.dillonprecision.com/content/p/9/pid/25215/catid/7/Dillon__039_s___039_Eliminator__039__Scale)
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: Habanero69er on March 21, 2014, 07:02:44 PM
Did an Amazon.com search for my purchase. Here it is. I'm quite pleased with it for the use I get. It certainly opened my eyes as to how varied any tin or box of ammo actually weighs out. :)

http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1395240806&sr=1-1&keywords=American+Weight+Scales+Gemini-20 (http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1395240806&sr=1-1&keywords=American+Weight+Scales+Gemini-20)

Took your advice & bought one of those early this morning. With over 500 reviews, ranked at 4 out of 5 stars & for $23.00, sounds like a good little scale for what I need.
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: Scrambler82 on May 08, 2014, 02:53:42 AM
Most scales that come with a tray, should use it when weighing items.
As stated above... These scales are,designed to use the try because zeroing without the tray sets the weighing mechanism too low and doesn't allow,for,proper balance within the scale.
Add the tray, zero the scale with the tray in place, then do your weighing using the tray.

I was surprised to see that Video of the AWS Gemini 20 Scale use without the tray.
One other problem in using the scale without the tray is dirt getting inside the scale around the center.

Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: ericw on May 10, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
Interesting thought on preload requirement for accuracy with strain gauge based scales but it turns out that this isn't a concern with them.    Linearity near zero strain is not an issue.  A bigger concern with them is temperature and humidity changes which should not be a problem indoors between calibration and measurements.  This scale uses a 3 point calibration scheme that is as effective with or without the pan installed.  I tried mine with and without the pan with same results.  The pan does offer some protection from stuff getting down in around the small platform but I haven't had that problem so far.  I just don't like screwing around with the pan when not needed.
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: strever on May 10, 2014, 11:20:01 PM
this is very similar to the scale i use and mine seems very accurate
more so then many of the expensive ones, i also have a Dillon
a .001gram accuracy equals  .02 accuracy for grains
the last tin of JSB's varied from 10.10 to 10.80 grains which is 3/4 of a grain diff
most were in the 10.25 to 10.35 range
now sorting for head size is the next pain

Did an Amazon.com search for my purchase. Here it is. I'm quite pleased with it for the use I get. It certainly opened my eyes as to how varied any tin or box of ammo actually weighs out. :)

http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1395240806&sr=1-1&keywords=American+Weight+Scales+Gemini-20 (http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1395240806&sr=1-1&keywords=American+Weight+Scales+Gemini-20)
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: Yarp on May 10, 2014, 11:32:29 PM
I use a ten-buck electronic scale from eBay (.01g) along with a two-dollar 50g calibration weight. It's the same setup I purchase for use in my Chemistry classroom.
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: grizzlyadams on May 11, 2014, 11:08:07 AM
i just use my rcbs or lyman reloading scale. i am old school and dont use a digital  :o
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: K.O. on August 20, 2014, 02:40:03 PM
It is a little slow but I love my Lee.

http://leeprecision.com/powder-handling/lee-safety-powder-scale/ (http://leeprecision.com/powder-handling/lee-safety-powder-scale/)
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: abslayer on December 12, 2014, 12:44:08 PM
The best I found was Lyman Miro Touch Electronic Powder scale1500
I use it for powder and pellets very sensitive to even a couple of powder grains.
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: Pappy on December 12, 2014, 08:32:43 PM
Got to laugh ..... have a sense of humor.  You can always guarantee yourself a plethora of different answers, when you ask what the "best" anything is .... you get answers ranging from thousands of dollars to ten dollars?  The most expensive does not always mean the best, but the ten dollar item  is almost never the best.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: abslayer on December 24, 2014, 07:50:39 PM
One of the best for under $100.00
Lyman Micro-Touch Electronic Powder Scale 1500 Grain Capacity 110 Volt
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: Slavia on December 25, 2014, 03:49:45 PM
Like K.O., I have the Lee powder scale.  It works, it's rugged, and it doesn't need batteries.   I guess it depends on what you want to do with it.  If you need pellet weight to plug into a ballistics software application, a beam balance will work just fine.  If you're going to use it for sorting, the beam balance can be painfully slow.  A digital scale might be better in that case.
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: maraudinglizard on December 25, 2014, 05:35:10 PM
I have the inexpensive one from Ebay to sort pellets with.  It may be slow but it cuts down on the flyers especially if you are hunting with them. 
Title: Re: Pellet scale?
Post by: vinenator on January 05, 2015, 02:31:02 PM
a little write up regarding accuracy and precision.

http://www.tutelman.com/golf/measure/precision.php (http://www.tutelman.com/golf/measure/precision.php)

as a rule of thumb, if you want to measure something to an accuracy of .1 grain, such as with a pellet, then you will probably need a scale with a precision 10 times better, or .01 grain.  we'll assume the accuracy is just as good.