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Airguns by Make and Model => Weihrauch Airguns => Topic started by: Oldgringo on March 11, 2014, 07:54:31 PM

Title: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: Oldgringo on March 11, 2014, 07:54:31 PM
It seems as if nobody has any .177 caliber Beeman R 7's in stock.  So, either I wait until June OR order a HW 30s deluxe. It's not like I don't have anything to shoot, ITMT.  ;)

Here is my issue: I like the way the fore stock comes out to/cover all of the metal cocking/barrel assembly on the R 7 like it does on my HW50s. All of the pictures I've seen of the HW30s Deluxe has a big glob of metal out past the fore stock and that exposed metal does not appeal to my delicate sensibilities.  :-\

I just talked with Steve at Pamona Air Guns (who also doesn't have a R7 in .177) and he says the wood on his HW30s' covers the metal. Do it do OR do it don't?  ???
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: k-man on March 11, 2014, 08:06:58 PM
The pictures of the hw30 on precision airgun & supplies shows the stock covering the metal. He's calling it a luxus stock.  K-man
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: mailman on March 11, 2014, 08:12:46 PM
Greg!!  I just posted the pics.....AGAIN!!........on RFC.  The stocks are SLIGHTLY different.  Here we go!   Guess which is which..............the Mailman

(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z324/revmailman/crosman/IM000518_zps5da1f070.jpg)
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: Oldgringo on March 11, 2014, 08:47:02 PM
Greg!!  I just posted the pics.....AGAIN!!........on RFC.  The stocks are SLIGHTLY different.  Here we go!   Guess which is which..............the Mailman
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Exactly! 

The R 7 stock in the background is much more pleasing to my eye than is the HW30s Deluxe stock; plus, the R 7 has a $50 muzzle brake that would have to be added to the cost of the HW30s Deluxe.  {*oh, sigh*}
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: Wunderwerks on March 11, 2014, 09:39:33 PM
I have been leaning towards an HW30 deluxe over the R7 primarily because the HW comes with open sights even though I plan on scoping the gun.  What exactly does a muzzle brake do that makes it cost $50.  It doesn't come on the R7 that I've seen or have I not been looking at the best dealer's web site?
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: Brazos on March 11, 2014, 10:57:34 PM
Buy the HW30S with the sights.  The are very well done and classy.  Way better than a muzzle brake.
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: Petey on March 11, 2014, 11:20:21 PM
Greg,
Don't worry about the stock .....you won't see it when you're shootin.....you'll be having too much fun too notice or care.

Happy shootin!
petey
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: Oldgringo on March 11, 2014, 11:32:45 PM
The current R7's come without open sights and with a muzzle brake.  Inasmuch as the rifle will be scoped, the muzzle brake makes it look cool.  A muzzle brake for an HW 30s Deluxe costs $50 because that's what it costs.

The open sights on the HW 30s Deluxe are nice, as are the open sights on my HW50s, which are in a zip-lock bag in the safe.

Hmmm, if I get a standard HW30s With the plain stock, the difference between it and a HW 30s Deluxe is about the cost of the muzzle brake.  My Diana 34 doesn't have a checkered stock....Oh, what to do?
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: ivanpros on March 11, 2014, 11:48:14 PM
Greg, get the R7. Looks like that is what you want. I I agree on the muzzle break, "cool".  8)
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: JimL911 on March 12, 2014, 03:15:34 PM
http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/1205004/692734.htm (http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/1205004/692734.htm)
Get the 30S and sell the sights to pay for the above.
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: bowzette on March 12, 2014, 04:50:16 PM
I bought the R7 for the reasons you mentioned.
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: Oldgringo on March 12, 2014, 05:28:28 PM
There are .20 caliber R7's in stock at a couple of places but, .20 caliber pellets seem to have a lot in common with hen's teeth.  We're going to be in transition for the next 5-6 weeks.  I can wait until the .177 caliber R7's get back in stock......I reckon.
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: oldwolf on March 13, 2014, 08:08:33 AM
http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/1205004/692734.htm (http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/1205004/692734.htm)
Get the 30S and sell the sights to pay for the above.

Is there a market for them?
Title: Re: Beeman R 7 vs HW30s Deluxe
Post by: JimL911 on March 13, 2014, 04:45:36 PM
Is there a market for them?
HW sights with inserts don't last long when put up for sale.