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Title: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: Wunderwerks on February 24, 2014, 01:15:15 PM
I've heard more people butcher the pronunciation of the name Weihrauch so I asked a German Language professor the correct version.  This is what he told me.

Weih - like "vie" as in 'to vie for something.'
 
rauch - yes, "rau" with the vowel sound the same as in "ouch", but then with a hard, German "ch" on the end.  Form a 'k' in your mouth, then force air over the top of your tongue, and you'll pretty much have the hard 'ch.'
 
[Some regions of Germany turn the 'ch' into an 'sh', but in Hochdeutsch, it is always hard.]
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: CorvidKiller on February 24, 2014, 01:26:10 PM
I hear a lot of people pronounce it like Vay rock, but if you asked a professor I guess he is right.
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: Oldgringo on February 24, 2014, 02:37:57 PM
I was taught in my German language class to pronounce the second vowel when there are two together; e.g., "ei" is pronounced as a long i.  Similarly, "w" is pronounced as "v" and vice versa.
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: Wunderwerks on February 24, 2014, 03:22:01 PM
Old Gringo.  That's what I was taught in my German class too many years ago.  I was surprised by this professor's response but he goes on sabbatical every other year to Germany and absolutely know one can tell he is an American.  He says the German language differs from one region to another much like the English language differs from Minnesota to Alabama to Boston to Texas. 
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: QVTom on February 24, 2014, 03:24:33 PM
HW is easier..........
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: zielvier on February 24, 2014, 03:27:46 PM
"weih" you can pronounce like "why" ..... and "rauch"  ask "babelfish" .
best regards Jochen
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on February 24, 2014, 03:33:42 PM
Old Gringo.  That's what I was taught in my German class too many years ago.  I was surprised by this professor's response but he goes on sabbatical every other year to Germany and absolutely know one can tell he is an American.  He says the German language differs from one region to another much like the English language differs from Minnesota to Alabama to Boston to Texas.
  ;) Well if you speak to someone from Great Britain we speak American and have no right to call it English ( that was according to the British born parents of a high school friend)  ;) ;D ;D 
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: Petey on February 24, 2014, 03:55:34 PM
HW is easier..........
Much easier than...
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/cartoons/h39B951D3_zpsb2734bcf.jpeg) (http://s1193.photobucket.com/user/NPetey/media/cartoons/h39B951D3_zpsb2734bcf.jpeg.html)

Almost as much fun as ..
(http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa347/NPetey/cartoons/3526194651_oktoberfest-4_zpscfff78a3.jpg) (http://s1193.photobucket.com/user/NPetey/media/cartoons/3526194651_oktoberfest-4_zpscfff78a3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: QVTom on February 24, 2014, 04:07:23 PM
Oktoberfest........  Requires no abbreviations :)
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: ezman604 on February 24, 2014, 04:10:40 PM
I thought it was simply pronounced cha-ching.
 ;D
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: QVTom on February 24, 2014, 04:14:15 PM
Followed by the dull thud of the skillet!  Then pronunciation becomes impossible.
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: RedFeather on February 24, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
Und tomorrow, klazz, ve vill dizkuzz "FWB".  Ach, NO, Otto, NOT "Friends mitt der benefits"!  Mein Godt, jungens deez dayz!
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: Oldgringo on February 24, 2014, 06:31:48 PM
Old Gringo.  That's what I was taught in my German class too many years ago.  I was surprised by this professor's response but he goes on sabbatical every other year to Germany and absolutely know one can tell he is an American.  He says the German language differs from one region to another much like the English language differs from Minnesota to Alabama to Boston to Texas.
  ;) Well if you speak to someone from Great Britain we speak American and have no right to call it English ( that was according to the British born parents of a high school friend)  ;) ;D ;D
Yeah, I've heard that before.  Was it from Piers Morgan?
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: bokes on February 24, 2014, 09:30:38 PM
I've heard more people butcher the pronunciation of the name Weihrauch so I asked a German Language professor the correct version.  This is what he told me.

Weih - like "vie" as in 'to vie for something.'
 
rauch - yes, "rau" with the vowel sound the same as in "ouch", but then with a hard, German "ch" on the end.  Form a 'k' in your mouth, then force air over the top of your tongue, and you'll pretty much have the hard 'ch.'
 
[Some regions of Germany turn the 'ch' into an 'sh', but in Hochdeutsch, it is always hard.]


I speak fluent German, so I thought I'd chime in. Just one thing to add to what Wunderwerks said:
the "ch" is a hissing cat sound. closest in English is when Scots pronounce "Loch Ness"
also emphasis on the first syllable, like: VYE-rauch
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: HWNut on February 25, 2014, 02:45:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI_5VrRvWk8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI_5VrRvWk8#)
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: Monganese on February 25, 2014, 05:15:26 PM
Everyone I know just calls them "why rack" (and Walther as "wal the")  :(
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: HCAirgunner on February 26, 2014, 12:24:58 PM
In German, the W is pronounced as a V. Conversely, the V has an F sound.

Think about this:

Most English speakers say "Volks Wagon" for Volkswagen.

But if pronounced correctly, it should sound like "Folks Voggen;" which makes sense, since it literally translates as "People's Car." (I think the Americanized equivalent would be "Family Car.")

The "auch" sound in German sounds like what we say when we pinch ourselves; i.e., "ow." Except there is a ch on the end which has the k sound. So it should sound like "owk."

Thus, Weihrauch should sound like "Vyer Owk" (where the "Vyer" sounds like the word "wire" except with the w sound being replaced by the v sound.)

Hope this helps!


Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: oldwolf on February 27, 2014, 10:17:36 AM
I've lost count. So we have 4 or 5 correct ways to pronounce it?  :P

I'll just stick with the OP method for now. It's a whole lot closer to correct than the way I used to pronounce it which was "why-rock". :-[
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: HCAirgunner on February 27, 2014, 11:22:20 AM
As far as I can tell, Wunderwerks, HWNut, and my message all explain the same sound. We just explain it differently. :)
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: RedFeather on March 01, 2014, 01:11:02 AM
And a big thank you Professor Hochundschpidt!  Just shoot der dammed tings!
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: Gunut on March 01, 2014, 02:00:28 AM
Leupold is 2 syllables and pronounced "Loo Pold". Why do people insist on making it 3 syllables and pronouncing it "Lee A Pold" is beyond me.
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: VillageSniper on March 01, 2014, 01:40:13 PM
If you have time, ask your friend about Feinwerkbau and Walther.  I'm guessing they sound a little diff. than they look as well.

Vs
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: Gunut on March 01, 2014, 04:33:02 PM
I'm not a Deutsch expert but I took German in high school and was a student in Wiesbaden (pronounced Vees baden) for a summer. The German language does not have a "th" sound like pronounced in English.  That's why Germans say zee instead of the.  Walther is pronounced Valter and Feinwerkbau is pronounced Vine Verk Bau.  W is the v sound but more throaty and F is also a V sound but more from the lips like the English F.
Title: Re: Know How To Pronounce "Weihrauch"
Post by: pelletpusher on March 01, 2014, 05:05:52 PM
yall all are wrong,you have to pronounce the w & v sound @ the same time.
     v-yer--
                 ==ouwk.
why-yer--

They make there language hard to speak so they can tell real germans from
imposters. :P ;D