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Title: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: mpbby on February 24, 2014, 11:00:11 AM
BULLSEYE - ZR MOUNT

http://www.diana-airguns.de/fileadmin/pdf/katalog/BULLSEYE_eng.pdf (http://www.diana-airguns.de/fileadmin/pdf/katalog/BULLSEYE_eng.pdf)

Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: Airgun.Sniper on February 24, 2014, 11:08:37 AM
 It must have some type of dampening material, and enough so that the scope will not asorb it. Im just going to stick with scopes that are air gun rated and BKL mounts
Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: TimmyMac1 on February 24, 2014, 11:32:41 AM
Diana has never been known for innovation with respect to the Mounts they sell. In fact I have found them to be the sellers of the worst Mounts ever for decades now. It will be interesting to see if they have actually done their homework or if this is another product developed by a non-engineer that is nicely finished rubbish.
Umarex and Diana both have a tendency toward marketing rather than quality. The brand could do itself more harm if this is typical of what they have managed to bring to market in the past. The C mount in it's 5 iterations was the most horrid adjustable to ever bend scope tubes. Let's hope someone with half a brain was involved in the products development instead of the sales department getting something they know they need but don't know enough to execute it well.

TimmyMac1
Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: Roadworthy on February 24, 2014, 11:52:14 AM
I am dubious about any product marketed by a company with a name like "World Novelty".  It conjures images of cheap party favors.

The clam to "One hundred percent repetitive accuracy" may be a bit over the top as well.

In short, I'm skeptical.

Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: mista meener on February 24, 2014, 12:15:49 PM
Sounds good on paper . Hope it works would solve many problems
Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: ijinxd on February 24, 2014, 01:07:28 PM
Advertising is garbage, but the actual product looks promising. What they're trying to do is find a new "source" that will absorb the shock from the recoil of an air gun. So they added 2 rails and a spring. Rather than the entire scope and mount set-up having to move back, the mount can remain still, while the scope and ring set-up absorb the shock; the springs then kick the scope and ring set-up back to its original position.
I think I may invest in one of these, assuming the price is sub-$30. Anymore than that and I would be better off investing in a well-known mount.
Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: BenjiHunter on February 24, 2014, 02:04:57 PM
If you want a damping mount, get a Theoben Dampa mount.
Pricey but good.
Have one on my Patriot.
Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: Big Bore Bart on February 24, 2014, 02:55:45 PM
  Looks to my eye, like it will kill the scope quicker. ;D    Recoil starts everything moving, then the piston hits it's stop, then the mount springs slap the scope silly. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: Plinkster56 on February 24, 2014, 03:20:23 PM
Give it six months, if it works everyone will be ordering one. If it turns out to be junk we will know a lot sooner.
Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: uncle paulie on February 24, 2014, 08:19:33 PM
Went  to umarex…no mention of it….Perhaps an early 4/1 spoof?

pv
Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: yoda4561 on February 25, 2014, 05:05:48 AM
Isn't it the forward recoil that kills though??  This mount looks like it only addresses the soft rear recoil.  Maybe there are rubber bumpers or something that keep that in check.
Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: grumpy on February 25, 2014, 07:26:13 AM
Exactly, if you want a mount of this type buy the dampa mount.

(http://www.airgunsforum.com/picture.php?albumid=27&pictureid=1105)



If you want a damping mount, get a Theoben Dampa mount.
Pricey but good.
Have one on my Patriot.
Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: yoda4561 on February 25, 2014, 08:57:20 AM
Thought about it some more and it seems if the mount works the way I think it does, the scope would be in the middle of the sled somewhere when the forward recoil happens, so it may actually be effective as claimed.  How they keep it perfectly centered shot to shot without the rails being so tightly fitted that they bind I'm curious about though.  If the price is reasonable I think they'd be worth a shot on the 20+ FPE guns that tend to be scope killers.
Title: Re: Springers ! - new scope mount in the market
Post by: starlingassassin on February 25, 2014, 11:12:46 AM
i really cant see the claims of 100% repeatable accuracy being true.

wouldnt it HAVE to have some play to work how they are claiming?

and wouldnt that play result in less than stellar consistency?