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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Back Room => Topic started by: Bullfrog on December 02, 2013, 09:19:10 AM
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Here's a scope cam kill of a whitetail doe from a few weeks ago. I'm using a powderburner (thus the reason I'm posting it here and not in the hunting forum). Specifically I'm hunting with my DPMS LR .308 AP4 which is an AR-10 (.308) derivative of the M4 carbine. I like it for hunting because the short barrel and the collapsible stock make it very maneuverable. Its also very accurate for a battle rifle. 1MOA or better is possible with the right ammo.
The video isn't particularly graphic. No video of the doe kicking and no blood except where I check the exit wound. Nonetheless, be warned it does depict hunting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj7pz3YRSYY&feature=player_detailpage# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj7pz3YRSYY&feature=player_detailpage#)
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Neat vid Travis, thanks for posting it up for us to watch.
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Nice shooting Travis. Maybe, just as you started to fire, she turned, opened her mouth, and ate the round.
That should be very tasty eating.
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fl must have some liberal hunting laws. here in Indiana not only is it illegal to bait deer or any game for that matter, its illegal to use a rifle unless it shoots one of the few acceptable pistol rounds. most use either 12ga slugs or 00 buckshot. if not a .50 cal muzzle loader or a cross/compound bow. but usually unless your in the flood plains you cant see more than 100yds anyway so rifles aren't really needed. and your deer are tiny compared to our corn fed monsters. they are even bigger if you get deeper into the corn belt or bread basket as some call it
nice shooting though
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Nice Bullfrog
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what kinda trees you growing there? didn't notice the first time I watched it but all those trees are planted in rows.
nevermind they are obviously white pine
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what kinda trees you growing there? didn't notice the first time I watched it but all those trees are planted in rows.
nevermind they are obviously white pine
Those are pines. I could not tell you if that particular patch is lollybolly, longleaf, or slash pines, but it is one of those three. I've never noticed the cones there and I can only tell them apart by the cone, with the exception of shortleaf pines which have uniquely short pine needles. Most pines in the southeast are logged and replanted. They are grown like plants in a garden. See how the pines all around the stand are in patches but the patches are different heights? They are planted and harvested them at staggered intervals so that no forest gets totally clear cut at once and trees are present in different stages of growth to provide different habitats for animals. Some areas have tall trees with high but thin canopies to allow for lots of plant growth for the deer to eat. Others are low and thick to provide places for animals to hide and rear young. This is not just our policy, but the policy of all of the timber companies present in the state.
Florida's rifle laws are very liberal and are a bit of a holdover from an earlier era, although they are also a matter of practicality. Practical insofar as its very hard to consistently see deer here without the aid of dogs. The deer are tiny in response to the subtropical enviroment they live in. They are far more like South American deer than midwestern deer. They don't really behave much like deer in other parts of the country. They are more secretive and more sensitive to hunting pressure. It would be nigh impossible to consistently harvest deer if rifles weren't employed. And yet the regulations are very "throw-back" in that Florida used to be a big exporter of whitetail deer skins for European clothes makers until the turn of the 1900s when disease and overhunting almost wiped out all of our deer. Back then hunting was an economic necessity and hunters wanted to kill as many deer as they could as efficiently as possible not unlike the buffalo hunters of the west. By the late 1800s, deer were very rare in Florida which all the more led substinance hunters to have the need to have a weapon that could take one instantly upon the rare occation one was sighted. Our deer have rebounded but our numbers are nothing like midwestern deer. Doe harvesting has been strickly forbidden for generations except for bow season, 1 week in rifle season, and for land managers like us who get issued special doe tags. As such, buck to doe ratios in most of Florida can appear to be as high as 1-10 or greater if calculated via trail camera and sightings.
Turkey hunting with rifles is also popular among natives although as more outsiders move to Florida there is a strong push by people from other hunting traditions to ban turkey harvesting with rifles. I killed my first few turkeys with a rifle, although most of them were under 30 yards.
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that's nuts I can harvest 6 does and 2 bucks or 8 does in this county then go to the next and do the same. goes without saying we have a bit of a population problem here. they introduced cougars/mt. lions a few years back but has not put a dent in them. and unless you got a friend in the dnr they will say they have never been introduced at all. but all the road kill cougars and trail cam pics beg to differ.
pretty sure I worded that right to not liable the Indiana dnr. if not
THE INDIANA DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES HAS NEVER ITRODUCED MT. LIONS OR COUGARS INTO THE WILD
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Bragging about killing does isn't in style here in California. But years ago there were 'sexless' hunts to keep deer populations down, as they were starving to death in the winter due to high numbers and limited feed. So, my grandfather advised that we were not to have sex while hunting.