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Airguns by Make and Model => Diana Airguns => Topic started by: Marc on October 13, 2013, 10:56:04 PM
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Got to shoot my new 34 today a little. It's smooth (Vortek'd - really nice!), easy cocking, shot cycle is excellent - no buzz. It could go on with all the positives.
The one thing that I had a hard time with is it's front-heaviness. It felt awkward, and didn't help my steadiness at all. I just couldn't get used to it. It's scoped with an RWS 4x, and is a .22 cal.
The weight of the gun is not bad, just the front heaviness.
Any tips on shooting the 34 to handle or counter-act this muzzle heaviness?
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She is definitely muzzle heavy. I do 95% of my shooting from the bench so it's not as noticeable. I find it harder for me to manage offhand. I guess you could add weight to the stock to balance her out. Anxious to hear other replies.
Bill in SC
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She is definitely muzzle heavy. I do 95% of my shooting from the bench so it's not as noticeable.
Bill in SC
Me too.
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Add some weight to the butt. With my Panther I filled the butt with plaster powder to reduce the noise and the extra weight makes it balance nicely.
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Add some weight to the butt. With my Panther I filled the butt with plaster powder to reduce the noise and the extra weight makes it balance nicely.
When I had my D-34 tuned, my tuner added 3 oz of lead to the butt. Last week I added a med. sized limb saver from wally world and she is much more comfortable. This stops shoulder slippage that is also annoying.
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Mine has a wood stock. Any tips on how to add weight? And what's a limb saver?
This sounds promising!
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Mine has a wood stock. Any tips on how to add weight? And what's a limb saver?
This sounds promising!
Limb Saver = Recoil Pad
Made by Windchester. I got the medium size sold at Walmart.
To add weight just drill a couple holes and add lead fishing weights and glue into place.
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Thanks Jessee,
Did adding lead weight in the butt help the balance noticably? And is the recoil pad a slip on type?
Thanks!
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Lately I have been shooting the D34 using shooting sticks from Dicks and sitting on a bucket. This is a field target style of shooting and it is working pretty well.
The shooting sticks had the name Field and Stream on them and extend from short enough for sitting to long enough for standing.
Springers don't work as well off sticks as PCP or CO2 guns but the D34 is just too nose heavy for offhand shooting, so I use them.
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Thanks Jessee,
Did adding lead weight in the butt help the balance noticably? And is the recoil pad a slip on type?
Thanks!
The lead weights helped, did not totally fix it. I shoot off a Winchester sandbag because of a disability. The recoil pad is a slip on, the only reason I mentioned it by name and size is because it fits my RWS-34.
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i think its wrong to add weight to the 34 you buy it in the first place cause its light, and for hunting is what you need, a good solution i think it would be to install a strap that attaches to the barrel and use the strap over your shoulders to take some of the weight of the front
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I personally would wonder why add weight to the wood stock, as that would make the muzzle balance "lighter". I'd personally rather it be a bit muzzle heavy, to slow down the movement I might impart, while shooting it. They are jumpy as is, so I don't know about making it lighter out there. JMO
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I personally would wonder why add weight to the wood stock, as that would make the muzzle balance "lighter". I'd personally rather it be a bit muzzle heavy, to slow down the movement I might impart, while shooting it. They are jumpy as is, so I don't know about making it lighter out there. JMO
x2 that a heavy barrel end controls muzzle jump. it its stock end heavy it will tend to rise as you pull the trigger . as for shooting sticks only rest the gun on the wood. when you let the weight rest on the sticks and let the barrel set on the rest it will cause accuracy issues as its not a fixed barrel. meaning the barrel might not be where it sould be every time you cock it
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I obviously missed on seeing if your 34 is a (P)anther or one of the wooden stocked models...
My 34 is a Premium model, wood stocked, and it is sort of a just right for me. I just picked it up now and I never noticed it being front heavy. It's nicely balanced with its scope, for me. I do have a 350 Panther with its plastic, hollow stock and this one is definitely front heavy by comparison. I can see how a Panther might get a little awkward to some but I don't mind it much. That and the Panther stocks seem a little shorter Length Of Pull on its stock, meaning it might throw the balance point somewhat forward. I guess it's in the way you hold it. I keep my left arm quite a ways forward on the fore-end of the stock. That keeps things balanced for me...
I guess the only way to overcome this is to add weight in the butt end of the stock. If it's timber it might mean drilling into the end and maybe adding a bit of lead. If it's plastic, just undo the butt end and fill or semi-fill the hollow with something. Just remember that while it may balance things, it will also add weight...
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Thanks everyone! I find it just too muzzle heavy for non-bench shooting. For me a bench is to sight in, and that's about it. After that I like to shoot one-knee'd, sitting, or leaning off something, all improvised rest styles like I would in the field.
I am going to play with it some more. She's definitely accurate. Shooting off the bench a few days ago I was hitting grapes at 20 yds. (blowing them in to mist clouds - pretty fun!). I just have to get ahold of shooting her how I like to shoot - or you'll see a like new Vortek'd 34 in the classified gate soon.
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Personally I like the front heaviness, it provides a good balance. Most of the front heaviness is because of the length of the barrel, obviously. It is just a matter of getting used to it and where you hold your hand on the stock at the front.
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Has anyone added a adj recoil pad with a good curve in it so it van be set in your shoulder, I also have a new rws d34 in 22 cal and when i try to shoot it off hand or sitting, the rifle keeps slipping down at my shoulder. any sure cures or should i just get a curved adj recoild pad
Chet
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Why not investigate a new stock?
Surely someone, Richards Micro has something for a 34 that balances out better?
Maybe a thumb-hole synthetic stock would help??
I dunno...I'm just yellin' my two cents from left field here.