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Well, I bought me a nice BSA side focus scope a short time ago. Unfortunately, it did not come with a side wheel. I contacted BSA and they informed me they did not make side wheels to fit that scope. WHAT??? They sure do sell other models WITH a side wheel. None of those will work, I guess. I measured the side knob and it's definitely larger than any after market wheels I've found. So, only thing to do is make my own. :)
I looked at several ideas other members have done and almost bought 1/2" and 1/4" plastic sheeting to make two piece units with. But, I changed my mind and went with 1/2" aluminum and will make it a 1 piece.
I just got in a new 4" rotating table for my mill just for this project. It did not come with all of the hardware I NEED but I adapt and improvise. LOL
I have T nuts and a set of clamps on the way. But I could not wait. I used what brackets and bolts I had to attached the table solidly. Since I had no T nuts and clamps, I decided to just run a carriage bolt up through the center of the table and attach the aluminum stock that way. The center hole of the rotating table is a Morse taper, I think MT2, so I cut a piece of aluminum bar stock, tapered it and center drilled a hole that the carriage bolt just fit through. This is a sleeve that centers the carriage bolt. I center punched and drilled the 4x4 piece of 1/2 aluminum I had drawn a pattern onto.
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/1_zpsb3e1842c.jpg)
I cut the hole in the aluminum a bit too large and had to also make a sleeve to center the carriage bolt in the piece before bolting it down to the rotating table.
I started by roughly cutting the outer wheel and the outside part of the hub.
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/2_zps66c4d666.jpg)
After slowly cutting away to get the outer wheel, I started taking out some of the material between the outside of the hub to the inside of the outer ring.
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/3_zps24563821.jpg)
The wheel will be approximately 3-3/4" outside diameter and I'm just going to play as I go and design as I go. I'm not sure how it will wind up eventually, but the process is REALLY fun. It's darn good therapy for me too!!!!
:)
I bought the mini-mill from Gene almost 2 years ago and this is my first REAL project on it. So I'm really learning as I go.
Stay tuned for more as I find bench time.
SAFE & Happy Shooting!!!!
Dave
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Yup ... that right there is EXACTLY why I fabricated from sub parts making a finished useable wheel :P
Ya end up your way with ONE FINE SOLID WHEEL !! ... tho one heck of a lot of time and effort to get there !!!
Love it love it love it :D
Will be watching it take shape to be sure ;)
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Very cool project Dez. I will be watching this one to see how she turns out. Keep us up to date
On it bro!
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Well of course I'm going to subscribe !
Very nice Dave !
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... tho one heck of a lot of time and effort to get there !!!
You can say that again Scott. :)
Just the prep work took a couple of hours. Having to work around not having all of the appropriate hardware was a chore but I think I got it down. At least everything is solid in place and centered as best it can be. The actual milling part is the easiest part. But I'd have to say overcoming all of the obstacles to GET to the milling was the most rewarding part...so far.
I'm sure strapping the finished product onto the scope will be the real reward.
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Got a tad more bench time this evening. Wish I was still down there making metal chips.
:)
Doggeed out most of the cavity for the hub.
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/4_zps87a4ca9a.jpg)
Trimmed out a bit of the extra and bored two differnt size holes just to experiment.
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/5_zpsb14088fe.jpg)
Still got a ways to go. Need to take off a bit more in the spoke area. Then I may play with designs some. LittleMachineShop is pretty quick shippping so my clamp set should be here tomorrow or Thursday. I can then clamp the wheel down and remove the bolt to finish cleaning out the hub cavity. But bolted down I can still work the surface and outside of the wheel.
More to come!!!
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Looks nice!
Mike
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Lookin good! Can't wait to see it mounted.
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Wow, Dave! :o
you have some mad skills! 8)
Can't wait to see how it turns out.
Looking great so far!
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Thanks folks for the comments and following my little project.
Niko, don't know about skills. Mad, yes. LOL
I think it's more having the right tools than skill.
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That is going to be sweet when you done, wish I had the skill to do that!
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looking good. DEz :) always extra cool to build your own and one of a kind too. waiting on more pics. :)
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LittleMachineShop.com is really quick to serve. LOL
Got my clamps in today so of course I had to open the package and try them out.
:)
Flipped the wheel over and bolted it back down first. Took out some of the spoke area from the back side to kind of center it.
Then flipped back over and attached with my new clamps to finish cleaning out the cavity for the side wheel knob.
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/6_zps141070a1.jpg)
I went over the entire surface to flatten and level everything up. Here it is in white next to it's soon to be new home.
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/7_zps5ddb42bd.jpg)
Dry fit....better than I expected for a first try. :)
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/8_zpsf8512c3e.jpg)
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/9_zps41515578.jpg)
Now gonna look at it for a spell and let my mind wander, as it usually.....er...was I through???
:P
Anyway, I'll trim off a little here and a little there until I'm happy with the way it looks. Then mount it in my drill press, drill and tap a couple of set screw holes, followed by a good sand job then a coat or three of flat black. While I'm thinking about it, anybody see something that will give me ideas for tweaking it?
More pictures coming but will be a couple of days. Getting close to the weekend and gonna be a very busy one around here.
:)
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looks real good, you have done an excellent job. thanks for sharing. :)
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Man, that looks really good!
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Hmmm...latest development.
I took the wheel out to our shop (motorpool) guys here at work. Asked him what media he had in the blaster cabinet. He has glass beads. I handed him the wheel and he said he could make it look nice. Okay, I can always buff it out if it's not what I want. So into the cabinet it went. After about 90 seconds, this is what came out.
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/IMG_13381_zpsdc33092f.jpg)
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/IMG_13391_zps8b7ef24d.jpg)
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/IMG_13401_zpsa03d6267.jpg)
Me likie!!! ;D
I may just leave it as is (after tapping set screws) and if anything, buff certain parts, like the rim, to give it a shiny/flat contrast appearance. Whatcha think???
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/IMG_13411_zpsab0ef053.jpg)
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/IMG_13421_zpsee7af59c.jpg)
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/IMG_13431_zpsc6ec2bf0.jpg)
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Looks superb!
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Hey D EZ are you sure you have not done a little maching before! I think it looks great and it shows true craftsman ship
Norm
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the minor polishing would probably look nice too. but it looks good as is. :)
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I'd say......either way you go, clear anodize it so it stays looking nice if you're not going to paint it. There is a thread here from a guy that did some muzzle brakes and anodized at home. They looked great, and it seemed like a pretty easy process.
I like the look of it the way you have it now. Good job!
Mike
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I like it as is, or anodized,... but it might look kind of neat to polish only the center face, and the outer ring/surfaces.
I dunno,... just trying to visualize something different from the norm.
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;D Wish I had machining skills that looks great
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Nice job. I like the contrast look.
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OPEN UP THE FINGER ACCESS HOLES ..... when sittin fiddlin ranging a POI, your hand " Entire hand " is up holding wheel.
Easier you make GRASPING the wheel too rotate, easier it is to get that task done.
Skeleton as this wheel looks ... using it is so non conscious because of it's EASY finger access ;)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u532/scott_schneider1/DSCF9020_zpsb851a5c2.jpg (http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u532/scott_schneider1/DSCF9020_zpsb851a5c2.jpg)
* Bottom rifles wheel
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I could/would open the holes up if mine were a 6" like that one. I don't have enough room in the spoke area to open it up more. I like the look of that one too!!!
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You guys are sooooooooooo cool, Dave.
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Hey D EZ are you sure you have not done a little maching before! I think it looks great and it shows true craftsman ship
Norm
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Thanks Norm. No machining experience at all. Maybe if you count using a Dremel, bandsaw and other hand tools.
:)
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The best news was I did not need to drill and tap holes for set screws. I applied about 3 wraps of black electrical tape to the knob, trimmed to fit and pressed the wheel on. It's VERY solid and steady. If it wasn't SOLID, I'd definitely drill and tap for set screws.
:)
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I like it as is, or anodized,... but it might look kind of neat to polish only the center face, and the outer ring/surfaces.
I dunno,... just trying to visualize something different from the norm.
After bead blasting, it actually LOOKS anodized. My brother-in-law saw it before and I showed him after I walked back from the shop. He said what did they spray it with? And how did it dry that fast. LOL
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Fantastic work Dez. And it was don't on your Mini Mill.. I would of never attempted to do it on my old Mini Mill. Looks fantastic buddy.
You sure learn machine work fast...:)
Gene
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Fantastic work Dez. And it was done on your Mini Mill.. I would of never attempted to do it on my old Mini Mill. Looks fantastic buddy.
You sure learn machine work fast...:)
Gene
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Thanks Bawanah Gene.
It's all in the mill. There was a creation inside your old mill just waiting. All I did was turn the power on and let it create.
:)
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Fantastic work Dez. And it was done on your Mini Mill.. I would of never attempted to do it on my old Mini Mill. Looks fantastic buddy.
You sure learn machine work fast...:)
Gene
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Thanks Bawanah Gene.
It's all in the mill. There was a creation inside your old mill just waiting. All I did was turn the power on and let it create.
:)
Uh, yeah sure ::)
If it were that easy I'd be creating a lot of things.
You've impressed me!
I still think you have some mad skills! ;D
That turned out BEAUTIFUL!!!
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Looks great. Glad to see that you are making chips!
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;D Definitely looks like bling great job You could etch the range setting on it next ;D
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Beautiful work, DEz. JEALOUS!!!!
joe
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Spray anodize....whatcha think?
I like...
Here's the first wheel I made.
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/IMG_1427_zps79000d59.jpg)
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/IMG_1428_zps926ffc77.jpg)
Then made a second attempt. Made this one a wee bit larger and more holes. :)
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/IMG_1435_zps332aad6e.jpg)
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/IMG_1434_zpsc2345002.jpg)
Will experiment more when I get time and refine my technique with the mill.
Bench time is pure therapy!!!
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Looks great DEz !
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It looks like you should have been paying top dollar for them! They are some high quality parts.
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;D Great job EZ i love the color match to the rifle looks AWESOME
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That color match is uncanny!!!!
A great project, and excellent work on your part. VERY impressive for a home brewed " I think I'll make one of these " undertaking.
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Even more jealous now! Beautiful work, bro.
joe
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Great job Dez now maybe Gene won't kick you off the machiners thread.
Bob
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Don't bet on it.
LOL
But thanks Bob, Joe and all.
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Wow Dez, You snuck a new air rifle in on me...:) When did you get that Condor? You know they ain't right! Thought only1harry was the only one who would buy one...:) As a matter of fact I think he owns 6 of them...:)
Nice anodize job. You gots to let me know where you gots da spray anodize stuff at.
Gene
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LOL
You need to slow down a little Bawanah and check in more often. I ordered it 19 September and been posting about it since then.
:)
Played at 70 yards today. It doesn't like Gamo Rockets. I'll stick with Preds.
And the spray, I believe I got it at Lowe's months ago. I bought red and blue.
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How are those Polymags grouping at 70 yards? Solid work Dave. Looks really, really good. Matches that frame perfectly.
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Grouping quite well at 70 yards. After tagging a target bull, I hung a small aspirin bottle from my nesting trap. Nailed it from 70 yards 3X in a row. I'm VERY pleased with .25 Preds in the Condor SS.
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LOL
You need to slow down a little Bawanah and check in more often. I ordered it 19 September and been posting about it since then.
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Played at 70 yards today. It doesn't like Gamo Rockets. I'll stick with Preds.
And the spray, I believe I got it at Lowe's months ago. I bought red and blue.
LMBO He actually told you to wake up more or less, Gene
Bob
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Ya Bob, Dez is always 4 steps ahead of me..:) Now Dez gots all da good stuff...:)
Gene
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What can I say, the way he sneeks around to do it. BTW Gene and Dez I am going in for Liver biopsy tomorrow. Think about me will ya?
Bob
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Absolutely Bob, thoughts and prayers your way sir. Positive reinforcement your way!!!
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Thanks guys you can always count on the folks (family) at GTA
Bob
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Good luck with the test results prayers and good wishes to you
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I am impressed; not to mention, and a tad envious. GOOD WORK!
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As Dez says Bob, prayers go out to you from my family to you as well.
Gene
Thanks guys you can always count on the folks (family) at GTA
Bob
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Thanks Gene and all, our prayers have been answered at least as far as the liver is cocerned no cancer or cihrossis. The oly thing I have to worry about is th normal agent orange stuff but I feel better. To here I guess to live a litte longer and for you folks keep me broke. Got a dang 25 synrod comeing now. LOL
I love you guys and ladies and the way we think about each other.
Bob
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Great news Bob and good deal in all respects!!!!
Now give us a good review in the Airgun Review Gate when you get time to exercize the new addition.
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Thanks Gene and all, our prayers have been answered at least as far as the liver is cocerned no cancer or cihrossis. The oly thing I have to worry about is th normal agent orange stuff but I feel better. To here I guess to live a litte longer and for you folks keep me broke. Got a dang 25 synrod comeing now. LOL
I love you guys and ladies and the way we think about each other.
Bob
;D ;D Congratulations on the good news and the new toy ;D