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Airguns by Make and Model => Crosman Airguns => Topic started by: drewciferpike on October 03, 2013, 01:30:41 AM
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*EDIT*I'm eventually going to build a carbine: 18" barrel, steel breech, FT piston and valve. I'm not quite sure which cal I should jump on, though.
- I'll eventually have a .22 Disco, so I'm leaning towards a 1377 (especially since I already have .22 and .25 springers).
- In an offline discussion, Xander mentioned that he and others have noticed that 1322s get a little more TLC from the factory.
I guess I could always buy another breech, bolt, and barrel to have both cals, but I don't want to do that.
This will be a backyard plinker/pester (25 yards), and possibly see use as a pester in buildings because of the variable power.
Cut my finger to the bone, and the antibiotics are making my head swim, so I'm looking for some sober voices to chime in and bring up points my brain has lost.
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Sorry to hear about the finger....you heal up ..ya hear!
1322/1377 same gun...only dif is the barrel and the bolt. I don't think the assembly line really cares which one they are making that day.. :P or maybe they do... ;)
Likewise if you need breech and the one you want isn't available.....get the one that is and order the bolt you need from Melon.
Take Care Bro!
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Drew, as I'm sure you've seen my recent threads, I'm new to the 13XX carbine crowd, but have been enjoying my .22 conversion.
I'm kind of halfway guessing here, but I'd say it partially depends on how long of a barrel you intend to put on it, and whether you are planning to do the FT piston/valve upgrade.
I just did the .22 cal, 18" barrel, and steel breech so far. It is still plenty accurate, and it did a full "pass-thru" on a rat at 22yds, 2 days ago. (so even with the stock piston and valve, it has plenty of "backyard pesting power".
I do intend to install my FT piston/valve soon, but was surprised that it was doing as well as it is on the stock power plant.
I'm assuming that is greatly due to the barrel length.
The other thing is, I find loading a .22 cal pellet into the breech much easier than the .177's.
For backyard pesting I think it is more of a personal preference,... but then again, it also depends on what pests you will be dispatching. Birds, Chippers, Rats, Squirrels at 25 yds,.... a .177 will still do you fine.... (a .22 will be a bit better of a "hammer")
but if you are talking about C-rats and Coons,... you would want to be up at the .22 for sure... and even at that, a big coon at 25 yds with a 1322 is starting to get on the upper end of it's effective capabilities.
just my .02 (un-edjumacated) cents
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Hey drew....
Let me throw this one at you
2289.....is a carbine, nicer pump handle and is .22....I think they come.with the 10 inch barrel....just my .02
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Likewise if you need breech and the one you want isn't available.....get the one that is and order the bolt you need from Melon.
Thank you for the well-wishes... and SEE? This is the type of clear thinking I wanted.
The other thing is, I find loading a .22 cal pellet into the breech much easier than the .177's.
I realized I didn't list, so I edited OP to show that I'm also planning for an 18" barrel (or 16... it will wear a TKO, and I'd like to reduce length a tad), steel breech, and FT piston/valve.
Your comment about the loading reminded me that I don't like fiddling with pellets, and if the AG Gods smile upon me, I might have a pair of .22s that like the same pellet. Not likely, I know, but it pays to hope. Haha.
The biggest game this carbine will see is a cottontail. I've got others for the coons or possums that are reported to use our back fence like a highway.
2289.....is a carbine, nicer pump handle and is .22....I think they come.with the 10 inch barrel....just my .02
Another example of clearer thinking: I'd been looking at the Bugout as the foundation, but somehow worked it out that it wasn't worth it because I'd replace the barrel, breech, and bolt, especially if I wanted .177. HELLOOOOO! Drew = too-many-meds! I'm going to be replacing the barrel, breech, and bolt, anyway, so what was wrong with me?!? I look at those items as throw-aways, and the inclusion of the shoulder stock and better pumping arm as worth the increase in price (I'm assuming), because I'd want to buy those, anyway... especially if I can find it on sale. (Which I assume might happen around Christmas, or so...) The only change would be if I wanted to make a bent-wire shoulder stock, but that probably wouldn't be for a while, anyway.
I think I'll start with the Bugout, try .22. If my life becomes a bleak morass of pain and fear because I don't have a .177, then I can get the parts.
Thank you, everyone. Now it's time for my next dose. (I waited to check this thread before I took it!)
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As long as you aren't taking anything larger than a rabbit with it no further than 25 yards, then I'm a huge fan of the .177 trajectory. With you getting a longer barrel and upgraded piston, the gun will throw 7.9gr CPHP with authority. And with a very flat trajectory.
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i've got a bug out kit with the breech and a few mods . all that has to be canged to go from one caliber to another is the barrel , the bolt and the bolt oring . no change to the breech or any other parts is needed . my 24 inch .22 barrel from crosman was $18 delivered , shorter barrels are cheaper . a bolt and o-ring should be just a few bucks more ,,, but i'm guessing on that .
with longer barrels , a good flat top valve and piston and a reasonable amount of pumping in .22 they can reach the fps/fpe of a xs-25 . if you don't mind pumping a bit more they can reach trail NP fpe/fps . shot placement is more important than a few ft lbs. of energy though . i like the ability to vary power , zero recoil/ease to shoot accurately (to me) and compact unassuming size/look , plus , not everyone has one .
(http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/BOOTY-MONSTER/IMG_0191_zpsc89d96f4.jpg) (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/BOOTY-MONSTER/media/IMG_0191_zpsc89d96f4.jpg.html)
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I bit, and bought the Bug-out, today. I'll probably end up trying .177 at some point, but since I already have some .22 pellets, I figure I can have fun with it right away.
I like the look of that 24" barrel. Seems balanced. I'll want a TKO on mine, so I might drop it down to 18" to keep the length down... I dunno.
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I bit, and bought the Bug-out, today. I'll probably end up trying .177 at some point, but since I already have some .22 pellets, I figure I can have fun with it right away.
I like the look of that 24" barrel. Seems balanced. I'll want a TKO on mine, so I might drop it down to 18" to keep the length down... I dunno.
Here is my 1322 with a 18" and a TKO to give you an idea. It started as a 1322 bug out kit as well.
(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss345/edtindall/1322wTKO18barrell_zpsbf45a059.jpg) (http://s590.photobucket.com/user/edtindall/media/1322wTKO18barrell_zpsbf45a059.jpg.html)
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Ooh... thanks for the comparison-pic! That's exactly what I want. (Unless I get a 24" and make a half-shroud, many moons from now...)
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Hi Drew :D Welcome to the addiction :o ;D
Ok so now you have a 2289, I would recommend you start by disassembling your gun and clean and polish the inside of the air tube, This will remove burrs and any nasty stuff left from manufacturing a plus is a better seal on the piston and longer life. Be sure to do the whole tube and polish and lube the hammer too. remember smooooooth is better, the trigger mods will help accuracy as will crowning the barrel. ;D The above TLC is all at no or very little cost but will pay back big time in satisfaction. You can find threads here and videos on utube about all the above. ;)
My 2289 as of now is in pistol form it takes a couple of minutes to change to carbine mode. I like it both ways It has a steel breech a 14.5 inch barrel and the above modds With open sights it is a tack driver a 25 yards and will destroy a tuna can at the same distance.
Ed 8)