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Airguns by Make and Model => Crosman Airguns => Topic started by: stalwart on August 31, 2013, 03:43:03 PM
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It came in yesterday, and had 100 run through it to check function... and 1 thing popped up.
I bought this to mod. I'm working on a .22 conversion, and plan to try an indoor bug shotgun set up (love revolvers!). The trigger needed immediate attention first (surprise! no?). The last few degrees of hammer throw, during cocking, were binding the internals. The trigger went from hideous to horrific in that tiny distance. The solution was simple:
The sear had a hook cut in it that engaged the hammer's counterpart in such a way that it actually cammed into a locked position. All in the name of Nerf World, I suppose. It took real force to cock.
To relieve the bind I needed to mill enough away to allow the hammer to lock before the bind, and to make the thing halfway clean, I needed to rid at least 1 of it's hook. It didn't take much. It still has a lot of creep, but that will be cut after I have broken in the face. It's as shown, and I'm dry firing it with the safety on to seat it all before cutting overlap down. I was taught to do all this in stages, with testing for fit... on PBs whose sears cost a bit more than Crosman's $1 (price Python guts some time).
These triggers aren't sophisticated, but there is a lot that can be done. There is plenty of width, so even if the weight can't be lifted to a few grams... there is no excusing anything less than crisp.
I've been searching, but haven't found much in the way of mods past barrels and sighting systems. Has anyone seen fun mods out there I can try, or done something to theirs that mine needs? At these parts prices, I'll try nearly anything. That's the most fun thing about AGs, to me...
New pics of sear with first cut of face depth. It's now close to ready for stoning, and it sure didn't take much.
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My Vigilante could benefit from this mod. She seems to function fine, but could be a lot smoother and lighter.
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There are a lot of design factors that keep these from reaching "target" quality, while retaining the double action, but lighter and crisp are already in hand here.
I like mine now. It's already what I deem "combat ready". Not too heavy, but no where near spooky... and quite consistent.
These things are a lot better guns than I realized when I ordered mine.
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As far as mods go I would look up Crosman 357 mods. It is the same gun with a different barrel assembly. I have one that I am fixing for my uncle and it is a really fun gun to shoot.
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As far as mods go I would look up Crosman 357 mods. It is the same gun with a different barrel assembly. I have one that I am fixing for my uncle and it is a really fun gun to shoot.
Exactly. No doubt the barrel assemblies are interchangeable. I wonder how hard it is? Looks like just one screw on the hinge and boom, new look! I imagine if you are using the open sights you may have to adjust POA between barrels. Just guessing here. No idea what dimensional differences there are between assemblies. Could also be fun to mod the barrels for different lengths and shrouds. A lot of potential in this gun!
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Yup... this one has barely been touched, in terms of developmental curves. Way before the apex.
If interchangeable noses are to be done right, the entire sighting system should be integrated with the nose. No POI adjustments needed.... 1 screw and the snubby is off, and the scoped foot long is on and ready to shoot.
That's my plan for these, anyway. ;D ...FWIW.
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Good job stalwart! I've been hoping someone would rip into this thing. Here'e my Vigilante Carbine Mod (aka the PUG) I've been working on. I turned the Vertical Grip Bipod into a spare Co2 holder and chopped a 1399 stock on to it...
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Good job stalwart! I've been hoping someone would rip into this thing. Here'e my Vigilante Carbine Mod (aka the PUG) I've been working on. I turned the Vertical Grip Bipod into a spare Co2 holder and chopped a 1399 stock on to it...
I've been meaning to ask you how difficult changing the CO2 cart is with the 1399 stock attached. Is it cumbersome?
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Thanks, Mike!
I've been following your work for a while... you know how to have fun. 8)
When I hear your "saw", I subscribe. Although your V looks a bit odd at rest, in your hands it looks d**n good. Good job.
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Good job stalwart! I've been hoping someone would rip into this thing. Here'e my Vigilante Carbine Mod (aka the PUG) I've been working on. I turned the Vertical Grip Bipod into a spare Co2 holder and chopped a 1399 stock on to it...
I've been meaning to ask you how difficult changing the CO2 cart is with the 1399 stock attached. Is it cumbersome?
Right now it's one 8-32 screw that holds the stock on, then the stock slips off down around the cartridge. It's pretty easy now but i'd like to make it even easier. I'm not making any more changes untill i get a sight on it since I'm not sure where the sight line will lie with the cheekrest. Unknown territory so i'm just winging it! ;)
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Thanks, Mike!
I've been following your work for a while... you know how to have fun. 8)
When I hear your "saw", I subscribe. Although your V looks a bit odd at rest, in your hands it looks d**n good. Good job.
Thanks Eric! It's definitely a different look for sure, but it really does feel and shoot awesome. I've been trying to brainstorm a barrel/LDC idea, but haven't wrapped my mind around anything stable yet. Looking forward to seeing how far we can take this thing;)
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Looking forward to seeing how far we can take this thing;)
Me too!
If anyone can find the bleeding edge here, it's this motley crew...
;D
The loose grips are really starting to bug me.
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Did you guys know you can order a 4 inch barrel assembly for the 357? You can also order a 4 inch barrel shroud and order a 6 inch barrel. I do not know what the OD of the barrel is, but if you put the 6 inch barrel in the 4 inch shroud, you could conceivably attach an LDC. BTW, changing barrels is child's play. Just the one screw. I will be ordering a regular 6 inch barrel assembly as well as a 4 inch. Only $9 for the 6" and $8 for the 4". Now my Vigilante will have multiple looks!
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That almost couldn't be easier. Enlarging the exit hole in the shroud, and pinning the barrel with a good cylinder gap will do it. At those prices, I wouldn't bother with keeping the barrel removable... just set it up, and epoxy it together. It would be stout, and it would look BA.
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That almost couldn't be easier. Enlarging the exit hole in the shroud, and pinning the barrel with a good cylinder gap will do it. At those prices, I wouldn't bother with keeping the barrel removable... just set it up, and epoxy it together. It would be stout, and it would look BA.
That's right along the lines of what I was thinking!
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That almost couldn't be easier. Enlarging the exit hole in the shroud, and pinning the barrel with a good cylinder gap will do it. At those prices, I wouldn't bother with keeping the barrel removable... just set it up, and epoxy it together. It would be stout, and it would look BA.
That's right along the lines of what I was thinking!
Dangerous, huh? :o Lol ;D
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Lol!! So how do you remove just the barrel from the vigilante front end? I'm just not seeing it...looks like part of the Shroud comes apart but I've been leary about pulling on it.
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That almost couldn't be easier. Enlarging the exit hole in the shroud, and pinning the barrel with a good cylinder gap will do it. At those prices, I wouldn't bother with keeping the barrel removable... just set it up, and epoxy it together. It would be stout, and it would look BA.
Oh yeah man, it would! I did notice that the barrel moves a bit within the shroud. It is not spring loaded as near as I can tell. I have a Dan Wesson 8" BB pistol that is springloaded, so it keeps a constant pressure on the cylinder. The end of the barrel is beveled to fit into each chamber. Of course the DW uses a fake round that has a rubber bullet sitting in a brass shell that has a hole for the CO2 to pass. I would love to convert that to a pellet gun. Or.......hmmmmmmm....maybe....a hybrid between the DW and the Crosman.... ??? ???
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Lol!! So how do you remove just the barrel from the vigilante front end? I'm just not seeing it...looks like part of the Shroud comes apart but I've been leary about pulling on it.
Take a look at the EVP for the 357 on the Crosman site, and you will see there is some sort of clamp at the rear that holds the barrel in place within the shroud. There is also a barrel weight, the top rail, and the shroud. The muzzle of the barrel appears to be a smaller OD than the rest of the barrel to fit into a bushing I assume. Looks like you pull the clamp out, then the barrel from the rear.
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That almost couldn't be easier. Enlarging the exit hole in the shroud, and pinning the barrel with a good cylinder gap will do it. At those prices, I wouldn't bother with keeping the barrel removable... just set it up, and epoxy it together. It would be stout, and it would look BA.
That's right along the lines of what I was thinking!
Although it's often said that great minds think alike, we are living proof that twisted minds have a similar tendency. 8)
My V barrel just slides out. No retainers, shims, springs, etc. The design allows for a somewhat self adjusting gap, but I can't bring myself to leave it like that. Mine will all be fitted as tight as clip tolerances allow. The little metal bit in the shroud is there only to provide a metal latch surface.
I just use a jeweler's screwdriver stuck into the muzzle to apply pressure, and the barrel slides through the plastic fingers inside, and out the rear. The metal bit falls out... and the sight rail/cover pulls up and out.
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Just chronied the V... just over 300fps (CPUM 10.5gr). Is this typical? What did Crosman shoot through these to get the advertised 435? Where do I get those zero-mass pellets??
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Wow! Barrel removal couldn't be easier! But I see what you mean now about the stability...definitely gonna have to tighten that up. Thanks for the tip Eric
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My pleasure, Mike.
Does yours show more resistance at the end of the arc when cocking?
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I am going with the fun factor with my V. I am going with the pistol pack theme, with different interchangeable barrel lengths. I may have the trigger worked on, and tighten up the mag play until it is steady, but that's about it.
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My pleasure, Mike.
Does yours show more resistance at the end of the arc when cocking?
A little, but it seems normal and not as noticable when shooting. I imagine that could lighten up as well. I'm not sure about adding to much length or weight out front since it is only aligned by the one pivot bolt. That's one reason why I'm going with a red dot, the scope was too heavy.
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I am going with the fun factor with my V.
This thing really is a lot of fun no matter how you slice it. I've never blown thru so much ammo in so little time!
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My pleasure, Mike.
Does yours show more resistance at the end of the arc when cocking?
A little, but it seems normal and not as noticable when shooting. I imagine that could lighten up as well. I'm not sure about adding to much length or weight out front since it is only aligned by the one pivot bolt. That's one reason why I'm going with a red dot, the scope was too heavy.
I suspect mine may have been just clashing tolerances. I'm betting if yours was as tight as mine, you would have noticed.
I think if I was a pellet maker, I'd have to consider giving Vs away... you'd make it all back, and then some, in no time... ;)
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My pleasure, Mike.
Does yours show more resistance at the end of the arc when cocking?
A little, but it seems normal and not as noticable when shooting. I imagine that could lighten up as well. I'm not sure about adding to much length or weight out front since it is only aligned by the one pivot bolt. That's one reason why I'm going with a red dot, the scope was too heavy.
I suspect mine may have been just clashing tolerances. I'm betting if yours was as tight as mine, you would have noticed.
I think if I was a pellet maker, I'd have to consider giving Vs away... you'd make it all back, and then some, in no time... ;)
Seriously... Give away a free one with a purchase of a tin of 500 CPHP.
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My pleasure, Mike.
Does yours show more resistance at the end of the arc when cocking?
A little, but it seems normal and not as noticable when shooting. I imagine that could lighten up as well. I'm not sure about adding to much length or weight out front since it is only aligned by the one pivot bolt. That's one reason why I'm going with a red dot, the scope was too heavy.
I suspect mine may have been just clashing tolerances. I'm betting if yours was as tight as mine, you would have noticed.
I think if I was a pellet maker, I'd have to consider giving Vs away... you'd make it all back, and then some, in no time... ;)
Seriously... Give away a free one with a purchase of a tin of 500 CPHP.
LOL... Make up a fast loader for the mags (10 at a time) and toss that in, buy stock in every CO2 supplier... you'd be sittin' pretty in a couple weeks!
;D
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I cut a shim for the barrel nose (.8mm), and a thrust washer for the spindle (1.5mm). Squared up and polished the cone, and its good to go.
Will chrony soon to see if it helps reduce ES, but don't really care... just not having the mag flopping around is enough for me. Feels slick, and indexes nicely.
How much overlap does a TKO need to mount? If I cut a p17 barrel (got a couple really nice ones left over), it will stick out 18mm, and I could get more by bobbing the nose a bit. Compared to them, the new Crosman barrel looks like it's had thousands of steel BBs through it.
I may need to do something about the "dust".
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about a half inch is all that is needed. 1.8cm is good enoug, I think
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about a half inch is all that is needed. 1.8cm is good enoug, I think
8)
The plastic is pretty stiff, but not rigid. The laser flashlight is aimed for 10... I firmly tightened the mount, then aimed the laser and cinched it down hard. It seems to be staying there.
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Hey guys. My uncles has one of these guns and he needed me to fix his rear sight. The mount broke. So I ordered a new mount and it showed up yesterday. So here's my question. How do I remove the old base? I've removed the windage screw and rear blade, but I can't get the base to come out.
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If no one chimes in by then, I'll take mine apart this evening.
We'll get you going.
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Hey guys. My uncles has one of these guns and he needed me to fix his rear sight. The mount broke. So I ordered a new mount and it showed up yesterday. So here's my question. How do I remove the old base? I've removed the windage screw and rear blade, but I can't get the base to come out.
I looked at an EVP, and there is a screw that holds the base from below, as near as I can tell. Looks like you need to take the gun apart to get at it. The screw part number is 357-011, as a reference if you go to Crosman's site and download an EVP for the 357.
http://www.crosman.com/cs/manuals/crosman-pistols (http://www.crosman.com/cs/manuals/crosman-pistols)
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Hey guys. My uncles has one of these guns and he needed me to fix his rear sight. The mount broke. So I ordered a new mount and it showed up yesterday. So here's my question. How do I remove the old base? I've removed the windage screw and rear blade, but I can't get the base to come out.
I looked at an EVP, and there is a screw that holds the base from below, as near as I can tell. Looks like you need to take the gun apart to get at it. The screw part number is 357-011, as a reference if you go to Crosman's site and download an EVP for the 357.
http://www.crosman.com/cs/manuals/crosman-pistols (http://www.crosman.com/cs/manuals/crosman-pistols)
Thanks George. I've downloaded the EVP and seen that screw. I tried to take it apart to get to it but couldn't find it. While I was at it I managed to mess up the trigger area. I finally got it back together, but now it indexes too far. Anybody got a solution?
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Hey guys. My uncles has one of these guns and he needed me to fix his rear sight. The mount broke. So I ordered a new mount and it showed up yesterday. So here's my question. How do I remove the old base? I've removed the windage screw and rear blade, but I can't get the base to come out.
I looked at an EVP, and there is a screw that holds the base from below, as near as I can tell. Looks like you need to take the gun apart to get at it. The screw part number is 357-011, as a reference if you go to Crosman's site and download an EVP for the 357.
http://www.crosman.com/cs/manuals/crosman-pistols (http://www.crosman.com/cs/manuals/crosman-pistols)
Thanks George. I've downloaded the EVP and seen that screw. I tried to take it apart to get to it but couldn't find it. While I was at it I managed to mess up the trigger area. I finally got it back together, but now it indexes too far. Anybody got a solution?
Beyond me, man. Maybe stalwart can field this one?
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Hey guys. My uncles has one of these guns and he needed me to fix his rear sight. The mount broke. So I ordered a new mount and it showed up yesterday. So here's my question. How do I remove the old base? I've removed the windage screw and rear blade, but I can't get the base to come out.
I looked at an EVP, and there is a screw that holds the base from below, as near as I can tell. Looks like you need to take the gun apart to get at it. The screw part number is 357-011, as a reference if you go to Crosman's site and download an EVP for the 357.
http://www.crosman.com/cs/manuals/crosman-pistols (http://www.crosman.com/cs/manuals/crosman-pistols)
Thanks George. I've downloaded the EVP and seen that screw. I tried to take it apart to get to it but couldn't find it. While I was at it I managed to mess up the trigger area. I finally got it back together, but now it indexes too far. Anybody got a solution?
Beyond me, man. Maybe stalwart can field this one?
I'm hoping so.
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Without it in front of me, I can't figure it out. I'll try to get to it tonight.
We'll get you going.
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Without it in front of me, I can't figure it out. I'll try to get to it tonight.
We'll get you going.
Thanks so much Stalwart.
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My pleasure, Chris.
OK, let's have a look... The sight just slides in, and is held by the side plate. That screw is part of the elevation adjustment. You might try resetting the elevation before sliding it all in, that screw has a indexing slot to keep it positioned as it is adjusted.
Check the pic against your gun, and holler if that doesn't help make sense of it.
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My pleasure, Chris.
OK, let's have a look... The sight just slides in, and is held by the side plate. That screw is part of the elevation adjustment. You might try resetting the elevation before sliding it all in, that screw has a indexing slot to keep it positioned as it is adjusted.
Check the pic against your gun, and holler if that doesn't help make sense of it.
Everything looks good there. The sight is replaced and good. Now I gotta figure out why it is indexing weird.
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Is your return spring in place correctly?
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Alright guys. I figured it out. I'm going to post this here in hopes to help other people with the same problem.
The bad indexing was the spring inside the receiver-to-clip transfer port. The spring pushes out the port so it seals better with the clip holes. When I disassembled the gun, that spring must have fallen on the ground. I found it yesterday and couldn't figure out where it went. Once I did figure it out, the indexing problem went away. The indexing part pushes the clip about 1/8 inch past correct alignment with the hole. The spring loaded transfer port brings the clip back to perfect alignment.
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Alright guys. I figured it out. I'm going to post this here in hopes to help other people with the same problem.
The bad indexing was the spring inside the receiver-to-clip transfer port. The spring pushes out the port so it seals better with the clip holes. When I disassembled the gun, that spring must have fallen on the ground. I found it yesterday and couldn't figure out where it went. Once I did figure it out, the indexing problem went away. The indexing part pushes the clip about 1/8 inch past correct alignment with the hole. The spring loaded transfer port brings the clip back to perfect alignment.
Great job, Chris! ;D
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You guys are sure gonna make things easier for me when I rip INTO this thing :P Thanks for that!!! I finally got a red dot and I'm making the final cuts and welds for the stock to fit snug. The PUG should be accurate by this weekend ;D
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You guys are sure gonna make things easier for me when I rip INTO this thing :P Thanks for that!!! I finally got a red dot and I'm making the final cuts and welds for the stock to fit snug. The PUG should be accurate by this weekend ;D
Let's see it!
I played with mine a bit today. Cleaned the coating off all surfaces in contact with moving parts, and powder coated everything shown in Teflon. Revolvers in general have slow lock times, but you could take a short nap waiting on these.
New pics... smoothed the frame. Not sure what color it will be.
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Went with anthracite at about 60% gloss.
The double action is now glass smooth... single feels slick, and is noticeably faster. I really like this stuff!
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Went with anthracite at about 60% gloss.
The double action is now glass smooth... single feels slick, and is noticeably faster. I really like this stuff!
Sweet!
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Nice job Eric! You are certainly making some progress with this fun little gun!
I mounted the red dot on mine, as well as a laser and flashlight...last night I got it to the point where I was hitting every beer can I pointed it at up to 10 yards. I finally feel like its ready to be unveiled. I'll get on that after work tonight;)
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Thanks, guys! I'm quite happy with the function now... feels good and tight.
I want to try .22, but can't find any of the old 6 shot clips to convert. Any ideas where I should look?
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Nice job Eric! You are certainly making some progress with this fun little gun!
I mounted the red dot on mine, as well as a laser and flashlight...last night I got it to the point where I was hitting every beer can I pointed it at up to 10 yards. I finally feel like its ready to be unveiled. I'll get on that after work tonight;)
Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike! What day is it? It's Pug day! ;D
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I second that! I wanna see it!!!
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Thanks, guys! I'm quite happy with the function now... feels good and tight.
I want to try .22, but can't find any of the old 6 shot clips to convert. Any ideas where I should look?
That would be sweet!!! I like the way you think! I wonder how hard it would be to bore the holes bigger in the BB clip that is included with the V...I don't (and won't unless it's an emergency) shoot BB's out of mine, so i wouldn't mind sacrificing it for the cause;)
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The BB clip is a little big for half it's bore. It could be worked with sleeves, but the 6 shot pellet clips would only require boring.
Until I can find a few, I'm going to see what it can do as a break-open single shot .22. Got the breech block roughed in... looks like I can make this work.
Lovin' the PUG, Mike... it's pretty clear you know how to have the most fun for your money.
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That's freaking sweet stalwart!
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Thanks, Chris!
Set a 10" barrel... getting close!
;D
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Made my first choke today, it turned out well... but, I didn't have a gun for it. It's a P17 barrel, so all I had to do was turn it to fit the V. Being able to swap barrels with 1 screw is fun. ;D
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Sweet! Nice job Eric!
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Thanks, Mike. I'm having a good time with this thing.
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That's what its all about...so, how does it work? Is it considered a "choke" because it's over bored? My knowledge of these things are minimal at best.
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That's what its all about...so, how does it work? Is it considered a "choke" because it's over bored? My knowledge of these things are minimal at best.
The choke squeezes the barrel so that the pellet meets slightly more resistance there. At least that is one method, not sure if that is the method that was used though.
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http://www.network54.com/Forum/451309/thread/1309291398/Choked+Barrels (http://www.network54.com/Forum/451309/thread/1309291398/Choked+Barrels)
Scroll down to Hector's post... it's pretty well written.
Yup, Chris... I made a sleeve with interference, and heated it to expand it enough to slide over the barrel. When cooled it shrank enough to squeeze the barrel down a few thou. Pretty simple.
I went this route so I could play with profiles.
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Hey guys! First off let me say this. The post I am about to make deals with a 357 not a Vigilante. I realize this is a vigilante thread, but I figure they are basically one and the same. If anybody has a problem with this, let me know and I'll stop posting. Thanks.
Without further ado, the good news! I picked up a 357 tonight for free. Some dude in my area posted an ad saying that he didn't need it and had gotten it as extra in a trade. I emailed him and let him know that I wanted it and I'd be willing to pay him some for it. He declined saying he was happy to just give it away. So I picked it up tonight. Loaded up a co2 and no leaks here! Everything is tight, the action is solid, and it shoots just fine. Was missing the clip though so I'll have to track a couple down. Some small wear on the edge of the faux cylinder but what the heck, who cares?
Pics!
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz287/footballplayerchris/IMG_20131015_195213_zpsdeba97a3.jpg)
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Nice score Chris!!! You can get clips online pretty cheap. They come in a 3-pack...I suggest buying some extras and a ton of pellets and Co2:P
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Does anybody know the clip part number? I have to order some other stuff from Crosman today so I was just going to throw some of them in there. I downloaded the EVP but there are two numbers next to the clip. Which one is it?
And also, where is the screw that holds in the barrel? Mine has some back and forth play and I'd like to tighten it down.
Also, I forgot who posted it, but the 2100 barrel fits. So I was thinking that you could slid a 2100 barrel in there. Push it through so that it sat flush to the transfer port thingy and then you'd have a single shot .177. The thing is, there is a lot of gas coming out of these guns. It's not a tight seal between the transfer port, clip, and barrel so a lot of the gas escapes. So if you pushed the barrel flush then you could probably easily reach the 500's with CPHP. Add on of those PUG stocks that Soolio? *I think* made, and it would be a sweet single shot carbine that got 50 shots or so per cart. Just a thought.
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Does anybody know the clip part number? I have to order some other stuff from Crosman today so I was just going to throw some of them in there. I downloaded the EVP but there are two numbers next to the clip. Which one is it?
And also, where is the screw that holds in the barrel? Mine has some back and forth play and I'd like to tighten it down.
Also, I forgot who posted it, but the 2100 barrel fits. So I was thinking that you could slid a 2100 barrel in there. Push it through so that it sat flush to the transfer port thingy and then you'd have a single shot .177. The thing is, there is a lot of gas coming out of these guns. It's not a tight seal between the transfer port, clip, and barrel so a lot of the gas escapes. So if you pushed the barrel flush then you could probably easily reach the 500's with CPHP. Add on of those PUG stocks that Soolio? *I think* made, and it would be a sweet single shot carbine that got 50 shots or so per cart. Just a thought.
I wouldn't bother with Crosman for the clips. Pa has them cheap. https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-0407t-rotary-clips-fits-357w-vigilante-co2-pellet-revolvers?a=206 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-0407t-rotary-clips-fits-357w-vigilante-co2-pellet-revolvers?a=206)
There is no screw holding the barrel within the shroud. There's a clip at the rear.
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Does anybody know the clip part number? I have to order some other stuff from Crosman today so I was just going to throw some of them in there. I downloaded the EVP but there are two numbers next to the clip. Which one is it?
And also, where is the screw that holds in the barrel? Mine has some back and forth play and I'd like to tighten it down.
Also, I forgot who posted it, but the 2100 barrel fits. So I was thinking that you could slid a 2100 barrel in there. Push it through so that it sat flush to the transfer port thingy and then you'd have a single shot .177. The thing is, there is a lot of gas coming out of these guns. It's not a tight seal between the transfer port, clip, and barrel so a lot of the gas escapes. So if you pushed the barrel flush then you could probably easily reach the 500's with CPHP. Add on of those PUG stocks that Soolio? *I think* made, and it would be a sweet single shot carbine that got 50 shots or so per cart. Just a thought.
I wouldn't bother with Crosman for the clips. Pa has them cheap. https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-0407t-rotary-clips-fits-357w-vigilante-co2-pellet-revolvers?a=206 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-0407t-rotary-clips-fits-357w-vigilante-co2-pellet-revolvers?a=206)
There is no screw holding the barrel within the shroud. There's a clip at the rear.
As long as I'm ordering other stuff I might as well throw them in yeah? That way I don't have to bother with PA shipping on top of the cost of clips.
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Does anybody know the clip part number? I have to order some other stuff from Crosman today so I was just going to throw some of them in there. I downloaded the EVP but there are two numbers next to the clip. Which one is it?
And also, where is the screw that holds in the barrel? Mine has some back and forth play and I'd like to tighten it down.
Also, I forgot who posted it, but the 2100 barrel fits. So I was thinking that you could slid a 2100 barrel in there. Push it through so that it sat flush to the transfer port thingy and then you'd have a single shot .177. The thing is, there is a lot of gas coming out of these guns. It's not a tight seal between the transfer port, clip, and barrel so a lot of the gas escapes. So if you pushed the barrel flush then you could probably easily reach the 500's with CPHP. Add on of those PUG stocks that Soolio? *I think* made, and it would be a sweet single shot carbine that got 50 shots or so per cart. Just a thought.
I wouldn't bother with Crosman for the clips. Pa has them cheap. https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-0407t-rotary-clips-fits-357w-vigilante-co2-pellet-revolvers?a=206 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-0407t-rotary-clips-fits-357w-vigilante-co2-pellet-revolvers?a=206)
There is no screw holding the barrel within the shroud. There's a clip at the rear.
As long as I'm ordering other stuff I might as well throw them in yeah? That way I don't have to bother with PA shipping on top of the cost of clips.
That's how I do it.
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The 2100 barrel fits, but you will need to cut off the transfer port hole at the breech end of the barrel, as well as add a barrel stop to keep it in place.
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How does one access the barrel clip? My barrel keeps working itself loose.
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At the breech end there is a U-shaped clip that holds the barrel from slipping out all the way. All you have to do is push the clip towards the muzzle end(i've used anything from a toothpick to a small screwdriver), essentially releasing the barrel, and push the barrel from the muzzle end at the same time. It should slide right out.
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At the breech end there is a U-shaped clip that holds the barrel from slipping out all the way. All you have to do is push the clip towards the muzzle end(i've used anything from a toothpick to a small screwdriver), essentially releasing the barrel, and push the barrel from the muzzle end at the same time. It should slide right out.
Got it! The barrel slid right out. I put it back in and I'm having the same problem. When I shoot the trigger rapidly the barrel shifts backwards. I've never pulled the trigger rapidly while the clip is out so it might be fixed with a clip in.