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Airguns by Make and Model => Weihrauch Airguns => Topic started by: onapar on July 30, 2013, 07:56:13 PM

Title: Beeman R1
Post by: onapar on July 30, 2013, 07:56:13 PM
I picked up an old Beeman R-1 for a good price and the seller told me he had replaced the spring and seal. The gun shoot very good and very accurate. The sights are open the front sight is hooded. I was wondering about the age . The left side reads Beeman R 1 made in W. Germany San Rafael  #94903
Any ideas how old it is?
Thanks
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: Frank in Fairfield on July 30, 2013, 08:00:40 PM
I have 930591 bought in 1984 from Dr. Beeman in 1984.
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: tjk on July 30, 2013, 08:16:57 PM
Some where between 1980 and late 1987 probably. I believe Beemans was making their transition move to Santa Rosa around 87 or 88. Anywhere from 25 to 33 years I would imagine. The R1 was introduced in 1980. Congradulations on the R1,.....it is a classic rifle for good reason. What caliber did you get? tjk
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: palonej on July 30, 2013, 08:38:04 PM
Looks like she's in really good shape!! Enjoy!!
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: White Eagle on July 30, 2013, 09:42:12 PM
Congrat's on a nice find! ;D  I love those R1's. 8)  BTW, what caliber is it?
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: Mark 611 on July 30, 2013, 10:57:02 PM
I'm a big fan of the R1 as well congrats ;) :P
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: robert w on July 31, 2013, 07:43:40 AM
I have 930591 bought in 1984 from Dr. Beeman in 1984.
those 2 guns might been built on the same day, there is a member on gta that has a d-54 just like 4 last digets after my 54. and I got a 34 that is the next gun made after my first 34. its interesting to see serial numbers show up and be darn close too
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: onapar on July 31, 2013, 07:47:38 PM
Mine is a 22, the bluing was mostly gone so i buffed it with a scotch brite pad and cold blued it . It looks okay but could be better.
I took it to the range today and at 25yds it shoot really well.
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: George on August 03, 2013, 12:09:46 AM
I have an R-1 in 22cal also. Still one of the smoothest cocking guns around as well as being very accurate. The trigger on those guns are tough to beat .
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: Nikoman on August 03, 2013, 01:32:28 AM
Congrats on that classy, fine shooter you got there! 8)
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: Petey on August 03, 2013, 01:57:44 PM
San Rafael years were 1974-1987 ..... I don't know about reading the serial numbers , perhaps someone else knows.
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: onapar on August 03, 2013, 08:21:28 PM
I decided to try my hand at refinishing the stock. I will post pictures when the job is done.
When I removed the action the spring looks new but there is no lubrication that i can see on it.Should there be?
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: Nikoman on August 04, 2013, 12:58:13 AM
I decided to try my hand at refinishing the stock. I will post pictures when the job is done.
When I removed the action the spring looks new but there is no lubrication that i can see on it.Should there be?

Not necessarily...
Lubes might've migrated forward towards the front end of the spring where you can't see it without properly (and safely) opening up the gun to take a closer look inside.
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: onapar on August 04, 2013, 09:44:56 AM
Nikoman
Sounds like good advise,does the R-1 need a spring compressor to take apart or can it be done safley with out one?
I have never taken apart the action of an air gun.
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: Frank in Fairfield on August 04, 2013, 10:13:32 AM
I decided to try my hand at refinishing the stock. I will post pictures when the job is done.
When I removed the action the spring looks new but there is no lubrication that i can see on it.Should there be?
A few drops. like one on each coil of spring oil. Don't overdue it where oil gets on the stock. If you cock the gun, put on the safety, then remove the stock, carefully, you can see the entire spring (compacted of course).
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on August 04, 2013, 10:57:58 AM
 ;D Build a spring compressor as even those rifles with only slight spring preload can be a real pain in the keester. and a spring compressor will make the reassembly a tad easier.
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: Nikoman on August 04, 2013, 11:31:25 AM
You definitely need a spring compressor for it. It's very unsafe without one for a brute like the R1.
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: Frank in Fairfield on August 04, 2013, 03:13:47 PM
Nikoman
Sounds like good advise,does the R-1 need a spring compressor to take apart or can it be done safley with out one?
I have never taken apart the action of an air gun.
You need a spring compressor. On YouTube there is a video from Germany taking apart an HW80 (same-same) but the video says do not try this with an R1 without a spring compressor. There is also a video of a British citizen doing it, too. If your speed is anywhere around 880-900 don't bother. Dr. Beeman advertised these R1 with 930fps. That was with 7 grain laser. My gun is 29 years old and shoot 890 with 7.9 grain pellets. Pyramid Air tech (next door) said, "Don't touch it!  I won't. IMO
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: fritz1 on August 04, 2013, 08:58:57 PM
Nikoman
Sounds like good advise,does the R-1 need a spring compressor to take apart or can it be done safley with out one?
I have never taken apart the action of an air gun.

Funny I decided to take my R1 20 apart today and after being warned about the spring preload on the R1 I was overly concerned about it going oing in my face or chest so I worked up some coils in my arm muscles and decided to put all my weight into it with is pressed on my rug.

I leaned into it with all my might and started unscrewing the plug all the while I'm praying for the best, I was expecting a full 1 - 1 1/2 inch of spring beyond the end of the receiver but all this excitement for barely 1/2 or 3/4 inch of coil sticking out I was laughing at my self out loud, it was a piece of cake to say the least.

Keep in mind this is the original spring which has been in there so I don't know how a new spring will be so it was easy but a little more effort is required to put it back, not much but a little.
I am not advocating or encouraging you to do it by any means but just giving you my own experience with it, and it was easy as pie also this gun has not been used excessively may be 300-500 pellets through it so it was not worn it sat in my rack more than it got used.
     
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: tomykay12 on August 05, 2013, 12:24:36 PM
my recent experience was the same; maybe 1/2-3/4" of spring preload. Easy  easy to take apart. little harder to reassemble with a new spring but no problem. I had mine clamped vertically in a bench vise. tk
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: onapar on August 05, 2013, 10:26:47 PM
Thanks every one for all the input. I ordered a new front sight from Midway USA for 14 bucks it is a fiber optic and supposed to fit the R-1
any one else tried one of these?
Title: Re: Beeman R1
Post by: mrlogik on September 10, 2013, 04:21:39 PM
http://weihrauchowners.freeforums.org/hw-serial-number-date-list-t6838.html (http://weihrauchowners.freeforums.org/hw-serial-number-date-list-t6838.html)