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Airguns by Make and Model => Benjamin Airguns => Topic started by: Nomadic Pirate on March 26, 2013, 04:29:25 PM
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Either that or Pyramyd just decided to drop it ?
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im not sure i will call them and find out, not that i would miss it . i never cared for it , but some like them
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I liked it and was thinking of getting one. I hope they didn't discontinue it.
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Well, they are silent on the matter, not officially coming out with an answer, so I would guess it is discontinued
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Too expensive for the problems the gun had. They should put a better valve and a big bottle on an Mrod and make it a .30 or .357.
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Too expensive for the problems the gun had. They should put a better valve and a big bottle on an Mrod and make it a .30 or .357.
That, and to much competition in 9mm bigbores now.
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that's a shame was hoping it would come down in price and be the game changer.
Guess it will be a while before we start seeing these BB'sin the pb price ranges.
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I tried to find someone that might still have them in stock to buy one, no dice.
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so, nobody but Crosman carries the Rogue,.....Hmmmm
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They don't have it anymore either.
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Too expensive for the problems the gun had. They should put a better valve and a big bottle on an Mrod and make it a .30 or .357.
Agreed...
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Yea, I would agree with that statement too. However, I think the Rogue looks better than the MRod. It is quite expensive though.
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the ugly duckling mrod yeah not pretty but accurate underpowered tho when you consider but a tack driver sadly i hardly shoot mine since getting the sumatras
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Either that or Pyramyd just decided to drop it ?
I don't want a airgun that needs batteries period but it's interesting that the fully automatic airguns just disappeared too.
Bryan
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Either that or Pyramyd just decided to drop it ?
I don't want a airgun that needs batteries period but it's interesting that the fully automatic airguns just disappeared too.
Bryan
They have been gone for a while. They never imported the big bores and around the first of the year they quit importing the small bore caliber select fire guns.
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If they dropped the e-valve and made an Mrod big bore it would sell like crazy. I love my Mrods and would buy a BB version in a heart beat, as long as they did not over price it. I have had such a hard time getting my 909s to group, even after a tune. Might be ammo but I am ready for something else..
Travis
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That's why the Evanix .357s are selling like HotCakes,.....what the consumers where looking for ;)
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Wow, even I grow tired of this constant commercial Manny........
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Wow, even I grow tired of this constant commercial Manny........
LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D just stating facts ;)
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Too expensive for the problems the gun had. They should put a better valve and a big bottle on an Mrod and make it a .30 or .357.
your right, or even a .30 cal disco. They would have sold millions of em!
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Either that or Pyramyd just decided to drop it ?
I don't want a airgun that needs batteries period but it's interesting that the fully automatic airguns just disappeared too.
Bryan
Funny is the Semiauto just came back up on the website, ....glitch ?
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lol manny, just razzing you man 8)
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lol manny, just razzing you man 8)
haha, that's all good, actually I quite enjoy the part,....never my all life been the one that strived to win popularity contests, on the contrary always relished the part of the not so liked one ,...kind of the "alone against everyone else" mentality :) :)
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Manny, You should never have to buy another rainstorm. They should send you hats and t-shirts and send you to all the gun shows ;D ;D ;D.
That would be cool ;)
Bill
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you guys ever think the reason for the full auto airguns disappearing is to not draw unwanted attention to semi auto and full auto airguns that make the same kind of power that some small caliber firearms make ? i mean the gun grabbers would prolly have a few things to say about them if they knew about them. so i think the disappeared for awhile to stop the airgun world from becoming regulated
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you guys ever think the reason for the full auto airguns disappearing is to not draw unwanted attention to semi auto and full auto airguns that make the same kind of power that some small caliber firearms make ? i mean the gun grabbers would prolly have a few things to say about them if they knew about them. so i think the disappeared for awhile to stop the airgun world from becoming regulated
Politicians would be quick to attack with the no background check to buy an airgun "loophole". I doubt we would have the complete support of the firearms community sense most see or think of them as BB guns...really expensive ones.
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certainly has crossed my mind...
Especially where I live.
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Google national firearms act of 1934. Airguns are mentioned,read it and draw your own conclusion .
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I am definitely not a proponent of "banning" the auto, but you have to think about it. A full auto .25 caliber that puts out 56 fpe? That could be as dangerous as a real auto firearm. I sure wouldn't want to get hit with 8-10 .25 caliber shots at one time lol.
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Does anyone think crossman may try to manufacture another big bore? If the Rouge is out of production.
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well, the party line is that it's still in production.
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The Rogue Manny or the full auto Evanix?
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The Rogue according to crosman is still in production, so are the Full auto, just not imported in the states.
The .357 Evanix SemiAuto line is still been sold at Pyramyd
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According to Midway USA, on their Rogue sales page....
"Status:
Discontinued by Manufacturer"
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/779580/benjamin-rogue-electronic-pcp-air-rifle-357-caliber-tan-synthetic-stock-matte-barrel (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/779580/benjamin-rogue-electronic-pcp-air-rifle-357-caliber-tan-synthetic-stock-matte-barrel)
I contacted Crosman and asked they either confirm or deny this. Still waiting on an answer.
***EDIT***
Crosmans facebook statement made today on the rogue.
"No issues, we've been low on parts and expect them to arrive today and have a production run set for tomorrow. These should go into inventory next week and be available on crosman.com. If you have signed up to be notified of their availability on the Rogue page then you will receive an email when they can be purchased."
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If midway USA says it is discontinued. Its Discontinued!!!!!!
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call me cynical, but this is what i've been thinking for awhile now, crosman doesn't want to announce that it's discontinued so they can sell off the inventory
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I would buy one from them. I know how to program just about everything, I could fix that monster!
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This is directly from Crosman.
"Paul -
That information is incorrect. The Rogue rifles have not been discontinued and are still being built, although we only make a few of them each week. They are now only available directly from Crosman and no longer being sold through dealers.
Thank you for contacting Crosman Corporation.
Regards,
*******"
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This is directly from Crosman.
"Paul -
That information is incorrect. The Rogue rifles have not been discontinued and are still being built, although we only make a few of them each week. They are now only available directly from Crosman and no longer being sold through dealers.
Thank you for contacting Crosman Corporation.
Regards,
*******"
Do you smell that? I sure do. ::)
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I don't know about anything fishy going on. It seems to me the Rogue is filling a very narrow niche'. It's expensive, somewhat complex, definitely unconventional, and probably really only appeals to a smaller audience than more traditional PCP's. It doesn't seem like something any third party vendor will be able to support or service, and that would mean the guns will always end up going back to Crosman for service anyways. Low sales volume coupled with unique servicing needed says to me that Crosman is making a natural adjustment and just keeping everything in house to maintain cost managment. I'm sure they've weighed requests from vendors against doing this and that its also part of the reason for the change.
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its funny because they always claimed that there where selling 100s and 100s of Rogues, that they where flying of the shelves at an extraordinary rate
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That's a good point, though I don't remember seeing anything about heavy demand. Maybe their initial production run sold out quickly due to the newness factor, and once people became familiar, demand dropped?
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It wouldn't be surprising that they had a large log of pre-order requests after the shows...and then demand dropped.
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Has anyone seen the small bore nosler pellets for sale? That might be a good indicator if crossman and nosler are still partners. If the rouge was out of production then nosler would more than likely stop swaging airgun bullets altogether.
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the small bore bullets where scratched
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you guys ever think the reason for the full auto airguns disappearing is to not draw unwanted attention to semi auto and full auto airguns that make the same kind of power that some small caliber firearms make ? i mean the gun grabbers would prolly have a few things to say about them if they knew about them. so i think the disappeared for awhile to stop the airgun world from becoming regulated
That's my thinking as well... I guess I do have a bit of conspiracy theorist in me afterall! That said, the issue with airguns as powerful as the Rogue, you have have to fill them with air after several shots! Slows down the danger to the public in the hands of a Madman. So...
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As of April 2013, they are still in production. I bought one!
Cheers.
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or are those leftovers ? been in backorder for some time now, what does backorder even mean ? ...making a gun after someone put the order in ?
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or are those leftovers ? been in backorder for some time now, what does backorder even mean ? ...making a gun after someone put the order in ?
Mine was new, off the line..
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As of April 2013, they are still in production. I bought one!
Cheers.
how do you like your rouge? Is it grouping pretty well, giving good strings?
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As of April 2013, they are still in production. I bought one!
Cheers.
how do you like your rouge? Is it grouping pretty well, giving good strings?
Too early to til... I have only done some velocity numbers... I started a review thread.. Just ordered a scope so I'll be working it over in a few weeks when I have some time.
Cheers.