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Title: PCP lube?
Post by: GecoGuy on March 12, 2013, 12:01:11 AM
What do you guys use to lube your PCP's? I have a disco and mrod both need a little lube on the bolt as they have become sticky and gunky. I would also like something to put on the barrel as a rust prevention as well as the internal o-rings every once in a while. I would also like to do a de-pinging mod for the mrod and was wondering what type of lube would be safe in the reservoir.

Is pellgun oil a safe all purpose lube for what I am describing?
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on March 12, 2013, 12:06:58 AM
Ballistol, in and out and barrel
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: GecoGuy on March 12, 2013, 05:18:00 AM
Ballistol, in and out and barrel

So I can put this stuff anywhere on my mrod without worry?
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: FuzzyGrub on March 12, 2013, 08:23:39 AM
Don't use Pellgun oil in a PCP.  I use a silicone grease on o-rings, moly 66 on bolt, ballistol on exterior metal. 
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: Sqrl Klr on March 12, 2013, 11:32:51 AM
John why no moly33 on your bolt, have you found it to be runny in high temps or something?
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: FuzzyGrub on March 12, 2013, 11:51:46 AM
John why no moly33 on your bolt, have you found it to be runny in high temps or something?

Molly 66 is what I had.  Have not used 33 to comment.
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: mtbdrew on March 12, 2013, 04:16:50 PM
John why no moly33 on your bolt, have you found it to be runny in high temps or something?

Yes it does tend to getting runnier in warm weather and the oil gets places you don't want it. Stick with the higher percentage stuff.
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: GecoGuy on March 14, 2013, 12:09:04 AM
Okay so what I have heard so far,

Silicon lube for o-rings
moly 33/66 on bolt
ballistol on exterior

Where does one acquire each of these?

Would it be safe to use rmcoil oil everywhere instead? Like this stuff >

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-silicone-chamber-oil?a=311 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-silicone-chamber-oil?a=311)
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: Ribbonstone on March 14, 2013, 08:03:19 AM
Think you can use whatever you'd care to on the outside metal work.
touch of silicone grease rubbed into the o-rings when they are installed.

I tend to basic white lithium grease on the heavy load bearing metal-to-metal parts like strikers/bolts.
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: squirrelnator on March 14, 2013, 12:08:42 PM
silicone grease and birchwood caseys synthetic gun oil is what I use. just a small drop in the shaft of the bolt and in teh hinges of the side levers a little grease too. keeps every thing workin nice and smooth.
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: GecoGuy on March 15, 2013, 01:46:50 AM
I am gonna ask this one more time before I give up...can i use the silicone oil "rmcoil" made by crosman everywhere safely, keyword being safely.

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-silicone-chamber-oil?a=311 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-silicone-chamber-oil?a=311)
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: FuzzyGrub on March 15, 2013, 08:29:30 AM
I haven' used it (even as chamber oil), but don't think it would be a safety hazard.  I don't think it is the right product for what you are doing.   Does it contain a dye like Pellgun oil?  If so, I would never use on the exterior.  PA sells the products discussed above.  Doing some searching on this site, will provide allot of info on cleaning and lube products.
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: Norm_m on March 15, 2013, 12:13:53 PM
For all my internal lubing on my PCPs and some external items (such as the bolt on my Disco & PRod) plus my 4500 PSI Shoebox compressor I have started to use DUPONT KRYTOX GPL-205 Grease Lubricant O-Rings SCUBA Oxygen Nitrox. On all other external parts I just wipe it down with RemOil followed by a silicone cloth

Norm
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: GecoGuy on March 15, 2013, 05:34:35 PM
Basically I want to buy one lube so I can carry it with me to the range. I don't want to have 3 or 4 lubes with me and look like some mad crazy scientist while I am shooting :)

As far as the purpose, all I need it to do is lube the bolt and o-rings both on/in the gun as well as my dive tank. It sounds like any "high" grade SILICONE lube will do, is this true? Reason I ask about the RMCOIL lube is because it is small and I honestly don't need a lot and I like how small it is. I can stick it in my bag or pocket with when when I go to the range to hit the o-rings on the dive tank or bolt if there is a leak/gummy issue.

Thanks for the advice so far guys!
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: aack73 on March 15, 2013, 05:40:40 PM
need to make sure its pure silicone. silicone oils in an aerosol can typically have a carrier that may make it volatile. if you keep it outside of the gun no sweat. but anything you put in it or that migrates into the gun will be compressed and will likely cause an explosion. just make sure of what you put into the gun. ;D better safe than minus one eye and a trigger finger, or your life. 
Title: Re: PCP lube?
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on March 16, 2013, 03:53:50 PM
Ballistol :)

I even lube the pellets with it :) wood, outside metal, barrel, bolt and trigger.

Did I mention Ballistol previously ?, hahaha