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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: Motorhead on February 28, 2013, 01:06:08 AM
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A copy and paste off the Yellow Forum ...
For those of you that may have sent Lefty Madrid money….
February 27 2013 at 5:53 PM dave cole (Login tulsaairguns)
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My buddy Joe Underwood (as well as others I sure) sent Lefty Madrid a cash advance to secure a Marauder bullpup kit several months ago.
I got an e-mail this afternoon from Lefty and this is how it read;
The short of it is, Joe got his money back this afternoon.
Dave, I am barely able to set these words, so my wife will help. I
have had health issues, (Heart problems) I just got back, and will try
to recup. I have had my wife (God bless her) for helping me return
everyone's money for the orders. I am deeply sorry, for I did not know
I would suffer a heart attack. I would never ever steal from anyone! I
am a Christian, and go to church. That's so nice of you to want to
help others. But I assure you, I would never do such a thing. My wife
has returned everone's money today. I am determined to finish this
darn kit, as soon as I can do it. I will.
Regards, Jessie Please let others know, I
would certainly appreciate that. I can't do much right now.
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 6:06 PM, dave cole wrote:
> Joe,
>
> If you mailed him the money and he cashed the check, it's mail fraud. I
> spoke with an attorney friend about your plight and he told me that mail
> fraud is a felony, that it can carry up to a five year prison term and/or
> fines up to $250,000.
>
> I would suggest obtaining a list of people that Lefty has defrauded and file
> a class action lawsuit. He told me that a single case maybe harder to pursue
> and obtain justice but multiple claims backed by records of payment without
> receipt of goods can hasten things along.
>
> If you did mail him, you might try sending him a letter certified requesting
> response within say 30 days. This will give you legal proof he has received
> your request and if he has not responded, this reinforces your claim. It
> will also give a process server a place to locate him.
>
> I would also post on the airgun forums about your disappointment. If may not
> help get your money or your conversion kit, but it will certainly prevent
> others from making the same mistake and possibly dry up Lefty fishing pond.
>
> If you paid for it by PayPal you can take recourse with them and possibly
> your credit card company.
So there's some scuttlebutt & reads as if for the immediate future be NO drop in Marauder pups from this individual :P
** just passin it on FWIW