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Title: So you think you're a gunsmith?
Post by: rsterne on February 12, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
Find out what it was like before modern machine tools.... but be prepared to be fascinated for an hour.... Sorry it's not an airgun....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJVz3T61trI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJVz3T61trI#)

Bob
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Post by: JerryW on February 12, 2013, 09:14:22 PM
Thanks for posting this! Absolutely amazing. I'll never look at one of these old rifles the same way.

Jerry
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Post by: Ddgrego on February 12, 2013, 11:13:15 PM
I watched itall.Awesome vid!
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Post by: stathisk on February 13, 2013, 06:05:39 AM
it has all the crafts i would like to learn, the best video ive watched ever
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Post by: KGatLC on February 14, 2013, 11:32:27 PM
             Thanks for posting that.
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Post by: pyroboy33 on February 15, 2013, 12:58:07 AM
Thanks for posting Bob, that truly is a amazing show of skill and artistic ability, that kind of craftsmanship just blows me away.
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Post by: Rescue35 on February 17, 2013, 10:56:20 AM
It makes one appreciate the modern equipment we have available today. I am in aww of the labor, skill, and ingenuity of our forefathers.
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Post by: strever on February 17, 2013, 02:13:17 PM
Wow
amazing skills back then

thanks Bob for posting it

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Post by: BrainsB4Beauty on February 18, 2013, 10:44:37 AM
That was pretty amazing.  With that amount of work going into the fabrication of the weapon, I wonder what, in relative terms, a gun cost back then.
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Post by: QVTom on February 18, 2013, 03:10:37 PM
Amazing!  If that doesn't send you to the shop to make something you're probably already too far gone.  ;)

After hammer forging barrels from flat stock, straightening, boring, reaming, rifling and making his own tools with the exception of hacksaw blades and files, he finds making patch box hinges and springs frustrating.  LOL

Tom
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Post by: SwampDonkey on February 18, 2013, 06:14:08 PM
great video...I happen to have a flintlock fetish too
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Post by: MichaelM on February 20, 2013, 03:54:07 AM
thats an amazing video... have seen it before and everytime I rewatch it I just like it that much more...... I really like how they say a blacksmith knows his metal... a woodworker knows his wood... but a gunsmith has to be great in all those trades plus the specialties of his own...

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Post by: john on February 24, 2013, 08:25:50 PM
From scratch in 300 hours. Incredible. Thanks Bob!
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Post by: gene_sc on February 25, 2013, 10:55:13 PM
Remarkable skills. Fantastic video Bob.
Thanks for sharing.
Gene
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Post by: Hanabata808 on March 12, 2013, 06:19:02 AM
Wow, that was an enlightening video!
The cutting of the rifling was particularly amazing. Well, everything was actually. The amount of talent put into that is astonishing.
Thank you for posting the video!
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Post by: Symore on March 12, 2013, 11:41:08 PM
Great video, I never realized the amount of skill and time it must have taken the colonialist to arm themselves. A gunsmith must have been the highest payed of all the professions of that era.
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Post by: sperho on March 16, 2013, 08:18:01 PM
Holy mackerel. No wonder why the industrial revolution was so impactful... I also did not have as much appreciation for the value of interchangeable parts until I saw them hand making the lock and even the wood screws. Yowsas.
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Post by: haywire2 on March 17, 2013, 01:52:22 AM
I am speechless after watching that video. Absolutely amazing.
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Post by: glassman98 on March 19, 2013, 02:38:05 PM
Bob, thank you for this post. It was the best hour I have spent in a very very long time. That is true craftsmanship at it's BEST.

Craig
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Post by: Hanabata808 on April 05, 2013, 07:17:48 PM
Bummer, the video got removed :(

Can find another set uploads on YouTube, but they're all short little 7-minute videos that you need to view in sequence.  I should have downloaded it when it was available.
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Post by: shootist on September 17, 2014, 01:05:27 PM
I know of only one person I would consider a gunsmith and even he says "I'm no gunsmith". I would give anything to start over and "work" at becoming a gunsmith, but that takes years and years and a special kind of person. Lee
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Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on September 17, 2014, 01:09:19 PM
I would be happy to just be a decent machinist
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Post by: Yarp on October 10, 2014, 08:59:28 PM
I believe this is a link to the same video, but if it's not, It is definitely worth an hour's watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lui6uNPcRPA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lui6uNPcRPA)
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Post by: QVTom on October 10, 2014, 09:50:54 PM
Great, same video.  Glad its back!
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Post by: Yarp on October 10, 2014, 10:56:43 PM
Quote from: QVTom on October 10, 2014, 09:50:54 PM
Great, same video.  Glad its back!

I'm watching it again. It is completely amazing.
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Post by: Freebird on October 11, 2014, 12:52:34 AM
  I am in the company of a most "elite" crowd!  8)
This video is truly fascinating and those of you that can appreciate this are becoming a rarer bird by the day.
In today's world of assembly line production and mass marketing the true skills of a genuine "craftsman" are being quickly lost.
Today it is common to call a person that can perform a handful of individual tasks a "skilled craftsman" when such is far from the truth. Many are the workers that perform single tasks and never even lay eyes on the finished product. We call this "progress" but I disagree. While it may progress the production of a product it regresses the development of the individual's total character and skill sets.
 I personally appreciate the documenting of true craftsmanship and enjoyed viewing this video. Thanks guys for bringing it to my attention! 
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Post by: Oxygun on October 12, 2014, 06:46:41 AM
Just finished watching the video.Fascinating to say the least.I Will NEVER EVER look through the barrel of my guns and rifles (and any other gun barrel for that matter)  the same way.It will just make me take even more care of my weapons if possible.

Maybe just a remark from someone living in Europe.It is often said (too often) in Europe that in the US people are "obsessed" with weapons.

They conveniently forget all the hardship of conquering the territory in the middle of what used to be "nowhere"...living on the "frontier" where each time you opened the front door you might be facing a black bear, cougar or any other maneaters.....to name just one the many dangers living on the frontier.The art of hunting or marksmanship was passed (along with guns) from father to son....
I am not pretending to know all the history  of the USA but I know enough to understand why rifles and guns played such a vital role in the history of your country.

So those big Mouthe's in Europe shouting against every weapon should first learn a bit of US history and then judge an entire nation or Even better, they ought to shut up.

Regards

Sanjin

thank s for sharing such a great video...
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Post by: rsterne on October 12, 2014, 03:46:51 PM
and if they are speaking English, or French, they should thank a soldier.... twice in the last century....

Bob
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Post by: hutnicks on October 13, 2014, 01:27:58 AM
Think you guys may be going a little off topic slamming the Europeans here?
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Post by: Oxygun on October 13, 2014, 04:55:52 AM
Quote from: hutnicks on October 13, 2014, 01:27:58 AM
Think you guys may be going a little off topic slamming the Europeans here?

Agreed.Was talking about Europeans since I am from Europe but had no intention to go any further then what I posted.
It was more of a sociological remark , but you re very right -off topic-sorry won t happen again

Regards

Sanjin
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Post by: rsterne on October 13, 2014, 12:21:21 PM
My comment was intended to simply state that those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.... I apologize for responding to an off-topic post in my own thread....

Bob
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Post by: Qjay on October 27, 2014, 05:02:20 AM
Wow!
This one is going to bear some study.
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Post by: PakProtector on October 27, 2014, 01:26:55 PM
My pop told me of look-alikes from the English big game style. The big Nitro Express and such, bought for nickels on the dollar and made by local craftsmen, down to the proof markings. Not to be trusted with full power loads( probably best to get them from the same source as the rifle ). They were close enough to require expert inspection to tell them apart...that I'd like to see in full, unedited tape...:)
cheers,
Douglas
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Post by: QVTom on October 27, 2014, 02:07:25 PM
Quote from: PakProtector on October 27, 2014, 01:26:55 PM
My pop told me of look-alikes from the English big game style. The big Nitro Express and such, bought for nickels on the dollar and made by local craftsmen, down to the proof markings. Not to be trusted with full power loads( probably best to get them from the same source as the rifle ). They were close enough to require expert inspection to tell them apart...that I'd like to see in full, unedited tape...:)
cheers,
Douglas

I think you can buy the full program from the Smithsonian. Prob worth the bucks.
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Post by: Nick_59 on November 02, 2014, 07:10:05 AM
Wow, interesting and informative, thanks for posting.  8)

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Post by: DTHN2LGS on November 07, 2014, 06:11:51 PM
I watched this film when I went to Gunsmithing school at Pine Tech in Minnesota (Class of 1996).  We did have a class where we made a double set trigger for a Mauser 98 using hacksaws, files, and a drill press as the only non-hand tool.  Dang noisy in the shop when everybody was filing away. LOL