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Airguns by Make and Model => Weihrauch Airguns => Topic started by: itbvolks on February 10, 2013, 11:12:48 PM
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Well, after much deliberation - I decided to pull the trigger on a new RX2!
I'm looking for a do it all rifle that's capable of some accurate target work but also support my hunting needs with my kids.
Super stoked. Leupold 3-9 Ultralight coupled to a 1-piece BKL mount. Spendy kit for sure but 20+fpe and accurate - can't wait!
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congrats on the new shooter. Post some pics and a review when you get it.
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You know the drill bro........no pics.....didn't happen!!!! Good luck!!!
Joe
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Waiting on shipping. Snow is kicking everyone butt around here!
Hoping mid week ;)
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We got ours kicked quite heavily here in NJ too bro!! Ugh
Joe
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Well, after much deliberation - I decided to pull the trigger on a new RX2!
I'm looking for a do it all rifle that's capable of some accurate target work but also support my hunting needs with my kids.
Super stoked. Leupold 3-9 Ultralight coupled to a 1-piece BKL mount. Spendy kit for sure but 20+fpe and accurate - can't wait!
I've had my RX2 for sometime now and it's probably the hardest shooter I have. Unless I missed it in your note, I didn't see what caliber you bought. Mine is .20...whichever you have, you'll not be sorry for getting one.
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Well, after much deliberation - I decided to pull the trigger on a new RX2!
I'm looking for a do it all rifle that's capable of some accurate target work but also support my hunting needs with my kids.
Super stoked. Leupold 3-9 Ultralight coupled to a 1-piece BKL mount. Spendy kit for sure but 20+fpe and accurate - can't wait!
I've had my RX2 for sometime now and it's probably the hardest shooter I have. Unless I missed it in your note, I didn't see what caliber you bought. Mine is .20...whichever you have, you'll not be sorry for getting one.
Based on my 6 weeks of exhaustive searching, I decided to go with the .20 cal as I think the powerplant is best suited for this caliber. Just seems to be the best combination of muzzle velocity and energy for my needs. It should shoot nice and flat to 50yds while still providing better wind resistance and knock-down power over the .177. I think the .22 is well suited as well but the slight increase in muzzle won me with the .20.
Hoping it's as nice as I've read. ;D
Joe - snow wise - I love the seasons but the 30+" we got here is past my limit of entertainment.... lol
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LMBO!!!! The entertainment factor get very old after 3 inches!!!!
Joe
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Congrats on the new cannon! That should be an awesome combo with the leupold scope.
Man 30+ inches of snow is insane! Thats too deep for the 4 wheeler to pull the tubers through. What the h do you do with 30 inches of snow?
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Itbvolks I think you made a great choice in a quality break barrel. While I don't have an RX-2, I've shot my neighbor's RX-1 on numerous occasions. Its the same rifle, it just has a regular, lighter wooden stock, rather than the laminated one yours will have. He also has the .20 cal. and I think its a great choice in caliber for that rifle. His was tuned and reported to make 940 fps with the light-weight Silver Bear .20 cal. pellets. His gun is the most accurate with the 13.5 grain JSBs though, and its shooting those in the 800+ fps range, which is plenty of speed, especially for a pellet that size.
While its a large, heavy rifle, it sure packs a punch on my spinner targets at 30 yards and shoots very flat to my 40 yards targets. The gas ram really helps to smooth things out and makes the shot cycle feel fairly fast. About the only thing about it that didn't impress me was the trigger. His is set for a very long first stage, while I prefer mine nice and short. I'm positive you will get a lot of enjoyment out of yours and be sure to try the JSB and Field Target Trophy domed pellets by H&N, as these tend to be some of the most accurate of the domed pellets in .20 cal.
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30" of snow is no good. There's no where to put it.... lol We got a little last night as well. Good news is the string of 40*+ days we've had this week. Certainly refreshing....
Thanks for the comments guys. I've been back and forth a million times and really wanted to pull the trigger on a TX200 (still might) but based on the mixed usage and the fact that I'm trying to get my kids into responsible hunting and gun ownership - I thought the RX made a great middle ground based on all my research. It's certainly a powerful gas ram gun but it also sounds like with a bit of tuning and bringing the system pressure down - one can have a nice smooth target gun....
Do I expect it to be TX200/HW97 accurate - no, obviously. That said, I think it can provide a quality challenge and provide years of enjoyment doing a little bit of everything.....
Thanks,
Eric
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Cool beans,....and 5mm too?!?!?! Good going. If you wanted a power-house piston shooter, then you got one for sure. With the right tools and equipment, they are super easy to work on, and so versitile
To set up for different pellet weight to power output options. I wish they made a junior version at about 2/3rds the weight. The RX/HW90 series guns are awesome. Have fun!!!!!!
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Eric,
Please post pics of that RX-2 as soon as you get it. I'm eagerly awaiting to see it! That thing should feel tuned right out of the box, it'll diesel a bit depending how much lube needs to burn off. The beauty of a gas ram is you can shoot any weight pellets, the ram doesn't care.
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Guess what sits at the house currently!!! ;D My wife sent along a nice picture of a long box she was modeling with.... Wish she moved out of the way... lol
Niko - pics coming tonight my friend. Can't wait to get it out there tomorrow and do some shooting. Has felt like the longest week of my life....
As mentioned - I think 5mm is the proper cal for this power plant based on all my research. I think it's a nice all around caliber based on my needs. Now - seeing Niko's most recent TX groups are kicking my arse but hoping I can get a handle on this girl to see what she can really do.
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Now - seeing Niko's most recent TX groups are kicking my arse but hoping I can get a handle on this girl to see what she can really do.
Here's the RX-1 groups...
5 shots each bull, 20 yards away.
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That is one fine piece of rifle you've got there. I got mine late last March. Shot the heck out ov it. I started out at 895 fps with the JSB Exacts, but as it settled and quit lightly Dieseling, it has dropped to 840 give or take. It looks like you've got a fine scope for it...let me suggest not getting any scope that does not come with a perfect warranty attached. That rifle is capable of generating a pulse on firing in excess of 400 g( 4000m/second^2 read off a calibrated accelerometer).
cheers,
Douglas
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I don't know about you guys but I'm still waiting to see pics of his RX-2.
I'm beginning to think he didn't REALLY get one ;D ;D
He's probably so happy and excited that he completely forgot his friends here at the GTA.
Come on, Eric!! You're killing me, man! Where's the pics?!! ;D ;D
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No pics yet???????
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I don't know about you guys but I'm still waiting to see pics of his RX-2.
I'm beginning to think he didn't REALLY get one ;D ;D
He's probably so happy and excited that he completely forgot his friends here at the GTA.
Come on, Eric!! You're killing me, man! Where's the pics?!! ;D ;D
The circuitious process required to put up big pix cuts my pic posting by 80% at least. I tried the H&N Match at 10 gr and they do indeed fly out the end of the barrel. Silly fast...:)
cheers,
Douglas
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hahahahaah!!! I'm here! I had to get her out there and run it a bit.
Overall, I'm thoroughly impressed. The gun is straight art. Well built and beautiful. Laminated stock is very pretty - though I need to buff it and hit it with some oil to really get it shinned up. Great grain. I actually prefer the blocky stock cut as I have large hands and I honestly find it rests well in all positions. Weight is significant. No question. It's a heavy rifle. I'm a big guy so can handle it but I can envision this being a handful out hunting all day. I added a nice sling which works out perfectly for handling. Balance is great. Really good actually. Just fore of the trigger guard. Handling is great. Shoulders really well...
Scope wise, I LOVE the Leupold. I wish it maybe had a little more reach. That said, again, for hunting - it's a really nice focal length. It's super clear with no aberrations anywhere within the focus range. Reticle is super thin and clear. I'm thoroughly impressed with how much light that little monster gathers. It's super light. Fit and finish is awesome. Everything is tight and smooth. Turrets are smooth and clicks tight. Usage wise, acquisition is quick and clean. Very nice and glad I decided to stay with this rather than go elsewhere for optics. We will see how it holds up on this monster but as it stands, certainly nice gear...
Mount wise, I went with a one piece droop mount BKL Tech with 6-bolt fastening. I really like the dovetail mount setup. It setup well and fit the rifle but I would prefer 2x changes - add a stop pin for the receiver and go to a 4-bolt split clamp cap setup. We will see how it works out - function wise - report coming.
Details - got home Friday night and pulled it out and gave her a thorough cleaning and wipe down. Little goo-gone and some patches. Nothing alarming and all looked good. Moved on to mounting everything up and loctite everything. Setup went without issue.
Anyway - on to the shooting. It's a beast. Cocking this is for real. I don't know what the actual force required is but it's significant. 50-60lbs wouldn't shock me. lol It's a heavy mother. Benched, it's great. Solid and stable... Artillery hold is stable as it gets - though, it's fatiguing to shoot. I'm not sure where the trigger complaints come from. Mine breaks just under 2lbs. First stage is a little long but nice feel for 2nd stage. Break is absolutely on the spot, consistent with zero creep at all..... I would guess I shot 150-175rds through her yesterday. I picked up a few pellet options to try and figure out what works well. FTSs, Exacts, Kodiaks, FTT's. Initial shooting post cleaning showed only slight dieseling which "seemed" to clear up pretty quickly. She kicks like a truck for a non-powder burner. It's a smooth, sharp snap vs a springer. I like it. Its enough punch that is did cause issues with the mount moving. I decided to move past the factory 35in/lbs and bumped it up. Everything was cleaned and locked down. It's really tight. lol Problem solved and the mount is solid. Then the scope started moving in the clamps so again, added a little more torque to lock those down. I'm a little concerned with damaging the scope so trying to go easy there....
Ran her through the Chrony for a baseline and was REALLY impressed out of the box. Again - .20cal
Avg Velocity -
FTS's - 926.4fps
FTT's - 928.2fps
Exact's - 867.2fps
Kodiak's - didn't shoot yet.
Interested to see where these are once the gun settles in and the weather warms up. It was right about 32* yesterday here with light snow.
Overall, took probably 25-30 rounds to get it sighted in. Took only a few clicks in elevation and windage either direction to get her dialed. Was shooting only 15yrds for the initial sight in but was shooting ragged one holers. We did some longer shooting but wasn't lasered for yardage so not sure. I would guess we've got a 75yrd slightly downhill shot and we were shooting cans with good success. That said, I still need to re-zero at a practical yardage (30).
Overall, I'm very happy with the gun. It's beautiful and handles great. It's a challenge to shoot accurately but wouldn't call it overly hold sensitive. It's a pleasure to shoot and thoroughly enjoyable. I can't wait to get it out again....
Pics to follow....
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Thanks for the update, Eric!
I believe you now ;D ;D
Eagerly awaiting pics...
BTW, don't worry about damaging the Leupold, clamp down on that sucker and drive it like you stole it! It has a lifetime warranty for me even though you bought it ;)
If you want a scope that reaches out more, the next step up in the Leupold line is a huge jump to 6.5-20X40 EFR Target. I wish they had a middle-road scope like an EFR in the 4-12X range. They are expensive buggers but you get what you pay for. Can you imagine the weight of that RX-2 with another scope? It would weigh a TON! ;D
No matter how big you are (I'm no little guy either), it wears you down after a while.
One thing I can suggest for that mammoth is to get a sling for it, works GREAT in the field for carrying that thing. Not sure what's available these days but mine wears the old Uncle Mike's swivel sling set.
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Niko -
Sling already installed. I agree - its a heavy gun. That said, the sling will certainly be high value.....
I did a smidgy more work today. For making 22+fpe, its shooting nicely and we're getting along better every round. Niko, I gotta say, darn impressive groups at 20! I was working on ragged 1holers today at 22yrds but no where near like that.
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Excellent, Eric! ;)
Did you get the matte or glossy Leupy?
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Glossy ;)
Just fits the rifle well...
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Glossy ;)
Just fits the rifle well...
I have two glossy and three matte Leupys. The glossy has thick reticles and the matte is the fine reticle. I really like the look of the matte on the rifles, I didn't think I would but it looks pretty mean. ;D
You did very well in choosing that scope. ;)
The glossy is classy looking!
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Interestingly enough - the big RX2 kicks enough to actually cause the zoom ring to back off when shooting. It's not overly bothersome but certainly indicative of what's going on during the shot cycle...
Reset my scope yesterday and locked her down real good and was shooting .25" groups at 22yds in the gustly 30mph winds. Pretty darn good I thought!
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pics,pics,pics,lol...got love those german ags ....jorge
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Eric,
the shot cycle will be much smoother at 20fpe.
22fpe sounds a little too hot and that might be causing the scope's zoom to be backing out. My zoom ring hasn't budged in 16 years but my rifle is pressurized for 20fpe.
Sounds like the shot cycle is a little harsh on that one.
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What pellet are you using to get 22 fpe with your RX Eric? Niko is right about setting the ram to 20 fpe. Makes for a much smoother shot cycle. If you haven't already, find a pump and adapter so you can experiment with different ram pressures and different pellet weights. I will caution you right now not to shoot light pellet with a ram set to high pressure as all you will acheive is a fried piston seal. I like shooting he heavy weight pellets at lower velocity. My .20 RX1 is set to shoot 14.3 Benjis at around 13 fpe. I have plenty of room for more power, but for what I use it for, there isn't much need for more. At 20 yards it will still knock the snot out of a squirrel. Have fun with your new bbgun!!
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Mine is as delivered from the factory (purchased through straight shooters). I hate to mess with her as she's shooting so well but I am a little worried about burning up the piston seal. That said, she's shooting JSBs very well currently and probably have ~200rds through her now.
Its currently shooting .20 JSB Exacts - 13.73gr @ 860fps and the lighter H&N FTTs and Been an FTSs - 11.4gr @ 920-930fps.
I'm pump and adaptorless currently so no adjusting being done. I did order a spare seal through PA - though a different composition (green).
Pics coming.
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Eric, Tom is right about the piston seal getting cooked. Just shoot heavies for now until you let some of the gas out. You don't need a pump, adapter or anything to let some gas out. The large screw on the back of the action gives you access to the valve.
Just something to think about, I wouldn't run mine at that high pressure and Tom runs his very low for smooooooth shooting. Your accuracy will go up with a little less gas in it since the shot cycle will be tamer.
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Any good way to tell if there are issues?
Just put a few rounds through her! Its shooting the heavies great.
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You would know if the seal gets cooked by the eventual loss of velocity and big deviations. Keep and eye on it, maybe it'll settle down but just shoot heavies for now.
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Now you guys got me paranoid!
I was thinking I got that one special Friday night after hours with a few beers factory tuned howitzer! You know - the 1% er!
"dang".......
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Just tested.
RX2 - 1
Squirrel - 0
Center mast, went 2ft and out.
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Just tested.
RX2 - 1
Squirrel - 0
Center mast, went 2ft and out.
;D ;D ;D
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Are you experiencing any heavy dieseling with the 11 grainers? Any burnt smell of lubes or plastic. If not, shoot them if you like the high velocity. But I think you are getting much better use of the power plant with the jsb's doi g over 22.5 fpe from your given numbers!! Do t be afraid to shoot the heavier stuff at lower velocities. The ram can handle the load much better than springs over the long haul. I have a mb on mine right now but have been thinking about reinstalling the front globe and going scopeless to lighten the over all weight. How do you like the laminate furniture?!? Gorgeous isn't it?!?! Other than the weight of these monsters, I wish they made a left hand trigger guard replacement. If you ate happy with the gun as it is continue to shoot it and have fun. Later on if you decide to let any pressure out of the ram, go easy and a little at a time. Just remember, you will need a pump and adapter to charge it back up. They are well worth the investment for any RX/90 enthusiast. If you have any questions or concerns about your gun, don't hesitate to ask them on the forum. Lots of good people out there to help and share their experiences with these rifles. :)
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Tom,
I've been shooting only the heavier JSB's with her right now. I've also got some Kodiak's as well that I'm planning on shooting this weekend to see how they work out. As it stands, no dieseling that I can tell. seems to be working well with this confguration. I would completely agree - I am getting great output from this powerplant and the JSB's. Coupled with the .20cal - I think it's a very solid match.
That said, I'm not at all adverse to pulling some pressure out of the ram and backing her down closer to the 20fpe number. I'm an accuracy guy so if it smooths the shot cycle some and improves consistency. I'm certainly good with that. It's generating plenty of energy so pulling it back some shouldn't affect it much at all.
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I've been doing lots of digging around looking for information on the RX2....
Interestingly enough, my RX2 has the ram pressure listed at 26bar max etched on the receiver. With how hot mine shoots, would be interesting to grab a .22 barrel to try ;-)
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Hi, (my first post in this forum)
Is the RX-2 in .20 less particular about pellet choice than the HW90 in .22?
I would like to get an RX-2 in .20, but the limited variety of pellets, and the absence of pellets with variable head diameter makes me hesitant. I have had an HW90 for a few weeks, and it will only shoot a very small selection of pellets accurately (H&N FTT 5.53 primarily). I noticed in a post on this thread that someone mentions the .20 JSBs as good candidates (I found the JSBs not to work at all with the HW90 .22) - thanks for the feedback!
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hey-Hey!!!,
My 20 cal RX2 shot 895 with JSB Exacts when I got it. Light, but consistend dieseling, which has after a few thousand pellets settled down to 840-845 with the Exacts. It shoots the JSB better than anything else, and it is quite accurate with 'em. It will tolerate FTT, but it spits them ot significantly faster. Velocity is quite consistent, and I am not too concerned with wrecking the seal unless I go and air up the ram to something in neighborhood of 25 FPE. I will be taking it down in pressure once I get offa my butt and get a means to re-fill it.
cheers,
Douglas
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So based on what I've read and a few others reports here - it doesn't sound like my rifle is way out of whack pressure or velocity wise.
That said, shooting the lighter H&N FTT or FTS's probably warrants pulling the pressure down some to protect the seal.
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I think it's too high but the person to ask would be David Slade. When I sent my RX-1 to get tuned years ago, it came back shooting 19-20 fpe and it is a lot smoother. So smooth that it recoils about as much as an R7 ;D
When you're saying stuff like your scope is zooming out, that's not a good sign to me. The shot cycle should not be that violent. You'll also gain tremendous accuracy with a little less gas in the system.
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I think I'm going to pull some system air out this weekend and do some more chrony testing to get it down in the 810-820 range which puts me closer to the 20fpe range with JSB Exacts.
Anyone having better luck with the FTT/FTS's? Mine's so hot now - I'm not comfortable shooting those but I could tune my pressure to provide me flatter shooting over the JSB's at lower pressure for smooth shot cycle....
Niko - how much air are we talking here? I've had the cap pulled on my RX to check the Schrader valve out and it's certainly easy to get too. I'll assume at such high pressure and low volume - it won't be but a lightning quick poke to the valve....
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Eric,
It needs very little air out.
Tom has done this many times and hopefully he can chime in but I've heard it's a very small amount that needs to drop the pressure.
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Simple to relieve the pressure. After removing the cover screw on the rear of the action, take a flat pounch and insert it into the valve opening. I use a pounch that just fits within the threading. This way when the Schrader valve stem is struck, it is directly straight with the stem. Anyways, once you have the punch inserted and touching the valve stem, I use the handle (wood) side of a small tack hammer and simply give the pounch a quick tap. The ram isn't really a high presure unit so tap it twice at a time and check it through a chrony. Take your time and tap lightly. That's about it. Happy shooting. :)
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Tom/Niko,
Thanks much for the information. I'm going to do some testing here shortly and reduce the power some and see if we can dial her in!
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You'll see how much she'll smooth out, Eric. ;)
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Got the RX2 out for some more work today. Did some initial chrony work to establish a baseline again. Gun is still doing 860-865fps shooting JSB Exacts. So base on Tom and Niko's reports, I set out with my tools to see what we could do to roll the power output back on this monster.
So I opened up the gas ram chamber and popped the valve a couple times with my flat punch and the back of my screw driver. Test fire a couple shots - 850's... Hummmmm... Pop the valve a few more times harder. More test firing - high 840's. A few more pops and still in the low to mid 840's.
Based on what I'm seeing, it looks like im near the guns peak power - limited by something other than the rams pressure. Maybe the transfer ports max flow? I'm seeing/feeling fairly significant reduction in cockin pressure and reduced shot cycle harshness all the while barely a 20fps reduction in output...
I decided to try some barracuda's as they should be roughly the same weight as the JSBs I was shooting. Overall - not impressed with the barracuda's. This tin has varied fit. Some really loose and some mildly snug but no where near the nice firm JSB fit. Finish seems pretty poor as well. Skirt finish near the back of the pellet was rough and not cleanly terminated. Velocity wise - cuda's shot 780-790fps very consistently. Certainly lower but consistent. Not totally sure why the significant reduction in velocity. I "think", the loose fit decreases the initial pressure build as the piston cycles. I believe this is confirmed by a slightly more harsh firing cycle which tells me I'm not getting the same cushioning action towards the end of the firing cycle. Drop a JSB back in and back up mid 840's and slightly smoother cycle.
I would guess I have some more room to decrease my pressure more still. Light was flat due to cloud cover and light was fading so chrony readings were a pita.
Potentially more work tomorrow to re-zero my setup and see where it's at. Weather and light weren't on my side so had to call it quits. Interested in seeing what else I can get out of her....
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Good news so far, Eric ;)
You're already noticing how it's easier to cock, just think how much smoother it'll be when you tune it down to 19-20 fpe. Your accuracy will go up too 8)
Now remember, the beauty of this powerplant is that you can go up and down in power. I don't have a pump for mine and it's probably a good since I'd be adjusting that thing every week! ;D ;D
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I'm just looking to get her shooting consistently. Power output is secondary for me over and accurate setup. I also noticed less hold sensitivity after bleeding my pressure back. To verify - my son shot it for a couple strings and noticed a significant reduction in cocking force and easier shooting overall. All good things. And still at 21+fpe so room to go...
We did shoot some dime size groups here and there from 35yds with it off a picnic table with some towels so not too bad...
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Buy a sampler pack from straight shooters!! This is the cheapest way to experiment with different pellets. It is funny how some pellets will shoot dead on at one velocity, and spread out/shift at another velocity. I will still stress the fact that you,....and Niko get a pump and adapter for your guns. It makes the the gas ram experience so much better. After all, finding the best combination to bring out the optimal performance of your guns' is what it's all about. I might even break out my RX and play around with it. They say it is supposed to be nice out today!!!!:)
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Hey Tom, I know, I know I should get a pump but mine shoots two high end pellets REALLY well so I never had the need to make adjustments. It shoots the Crosman Premiers (cardboard box) awesomely and the the JSB's suffer from too much awesomeness too! ;D ;D
Both of those pellets are shooting at 19fpe or so, there's another pellet (I forget which one) that shoots pretty decent at 20 fpe but I only use the above mentioned since they're the most accurate.
That statement you made about pellets shooting different accuracies at different velocities makes me think about a pump! It's so true! It would be nice to drop the rifle down to 13fpe and shoot wadcutters @10m ;D
These are very accurate rifles, totally underrated IMO.
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Bad news guys - my brute of a RX2 kocked out my Leupold VX2 UL. Looks like a broken reticle right where they cross (horizontal reticle failure).
Gun was shooting great. No issues at all.
Bummed..... If I had to guess - 220rds to date... Guess we'll see how well Leupolds warranty works out. Just read the product reg information. Guess I should have read closer as it should have been done within 10-days....
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Bad news guys - my brute of a RX2 kocked out my Leupold VX2 UL. Looks like a broken reticle right where they cross (horizontal reticle failure).
Gun was shooting great. No issues at all.
Bummed..... If I had to guess - 220rds to date... Guess we'll see how well Leupolds warranty works out. Just read the product reg information. Guess I should have read closer as it should have been done within 10-days....
No need to worry about the warranty, Eric.
Just call Leupold and they'll take care of you. Seriously!
I just sent one of mine in for the very first time after almost 20 years and all they wanted was a return address. Mine didn't bust, all it needs is some lubes since the focus ring is a little tight and the focus ring is kind of loose but this is all normal after 50,000+ shots.
Don't fret about the warranty, Leupold will take care of you and will ship it back for free - you might have to send it out on your dime (maybe) but I'd give them a call. Their customer service is second to none.
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No pics.! Congrats! Must have pics.
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So decided while the Leupold was off for service, I'd try my hand at something else scope wise. The wait is killing me so had to do something. Pulled the trigger on a Bushy Legend Ultra HD to try on her.
Went with the 4.5-14 setup. Glass looks really good. Scope looks and feels quality. Seems I'm getting about 12yds on the min for mine so I think usable.
It's got nice smooth zoom and windage/elevation adjustment but listed as 20yds minimum focus distance. Listed as rimfire and airgun rated so fingers crossed. We'll get it out tomorrow and see what we see. Planning on backing the power down a smidgy more so we'll see if it helps smooth things out more and the scope survives......
Details pending......
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Your RX-2 should be a little easier on scopes now that you've let some air out of the ram. Cool, let us know how it works out, Eric. ;)
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So more work today. Got the bushnell mounted up and started working her in. Pulled some more air out. A lot actually. All said, it was probably 15 taps on the valve with the back of the screw driver and a straight punch. Shooting exactly 800fps with JSB Exacts which based on the calcs is right at 19.5fpe. I also shot FTTs which were about 850fps...
Scope wise, I'm actually really liking the bushnell. It's bigger, heavier, longer, but it's got good clarity. Close focus didn't bug me at all today either. Loved the added zoom at 14x and also really liked the side focus. Light gathering is impressive. I'm not sure it's as clear as my Leopold yet but it's pretty darn good.
Shooting wise, zeroed at 30yds. Shooting from a single bag, it shot pretty much ragged single hole today. I was messing with hold and I can get some varied results. Still messing with it. Overall, pretty darn good all things considered...
Shot the JSBs and FTTs and seemed to have good results with both. The shot cycle with the FTTs is a little more harsh. Pellet fit is pretty loose and the sound the gun makes is a little different but seemed to group well. JSBs on the other side fit snug/tight and the shot cycle seemed more muted though tough to quantify but shot well. I'm a little concerned with the shot cycle shooting the FTTs as it sounds more metallic (sounds like a smidge of piston slap maybe). JSBs hit like a truck so probably going to stay with them.
Shot cycle is still pretty thumping but it's far easier to cock and its less hold sensitive for sure. Fingers crossed the scope holds up as I'm really liking it right now. I figure between life time warranties between them, I'll just cycle as necessary... lol
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It sounds like it prefers a larger diameter head size for those FTT's. They're great pellets for sure, I'd say more consistent than the JSB's have been lately but I'm speaking for the .177's - the .20 JSB's have thankfully remained consistent from tin to tin (cross your fingers).
So how long is the Leupy going to take to get back? I called about mine and I was told 5 weeks, doh! :o
Usually it only takes 10 days but they're really backed up with all this firearms nonsense going on in legislation. There's a frenzy going on to upgrade scope reticles and other goodies for the Leupold Custom Shop.
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I would say the increased velocity of the FTT's is a result of the lower weight. Not sure it prefers them better as the fit is much looser than the JSB's and there is also a slight amount of flash on the perimeter of the head (not overly concentric either) as compared to the nearly perfect JSB's.
That said, it's what shoots the best at the end of the day that matters. And to that, I'm still not sure as I need more trigger time to really determine what's what....
Not sure on the Luepy but not sounding good. I might be 2x scopes down by then.... lol
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Two scopes short, Eric?! Oh noes!!!
What other scope failed on you?
I hope you get your Leupold back MUCH faster than me, they might jump yours to the front since it's so new. Mine is 19 years old and I'm in no hurry, it isn't really damaged (just loose and tight in places because of the old lubes).
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Lol - right now only the Leupy but if it takes 5-weeks to get it back, I'm concerned my Bushnell could fail by then. I'm a little scope shy now... Lol
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You should be OK now since you tamed that beast by letting some air out.