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Airguns by Make and Model => Vintage Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: TobyH on June 08, 2012, 06:00:18 AM
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Hi all,
My new(!) sheridan has arrived.
I'd like to try and identify the year and model a bit more accurately, i've read that older 'dans use the year of build as their serial number (mixed up) but mine seems like a normal serial number:015433. I'm guessing this means it a bit younger?
Here's some pics to give a better idea:
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn313/TobyHeath/Sheridan1.jpg)
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn313/TobyHeath/Sheridan2.jpg)
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn313/TobyHeath/Sheridan3.jpg)
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn313/TobyHeath/Sheridan4.jpg)
I'm interested in also knowing which spare parts fit this rifle in case something goes wrong.
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Just managed to get some information. The serial number is apparently from a 1972 build.
Same age as me!! (probably in better shape too!)
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Nice looking shooter. Ya just have to love those older pumpers. I have one just like that that I bought new when I was 12 years old...... that was 43 years ago and the rifle still shoots as hard and as straight as it did the first day I took it out of the box. Can't even count how many pests that rifle has taken over the last 43 years.
Congrats on a fine rifle, enjoy :)
Jeff
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i have a 73 also amnd may get my hands on a crew cut from i think like 53 , enjoy fine fine guns and excellent shooters
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Just carried out some Chrony testing:
8 Pumps gives ave of 523 fps giving 9.29 lbft
10 Pumps gives ave of 584 fps giving 11.58 lbft
11 Pumps gives ave of 599 fps giving 12.21 lbft
These were all carried out with Logun Penetrator .20 @ 15.6gr pellets. Each average is of 5 shots.
There's quite big variations in the fps values over the 5 shots.
Legal limit in the UK is 12 lbft so 10 pumps max for me.
How do these figures compare with other Blue Streaks?
Have to say accuracy is not that great at the moment. Its a windy day which doesn't help, but even so. Might need to get the crown worked on to make sure its ok. Saying that if the fps varies alot then the accuracy won't be good anyway, is there any reason that the fps could be so wild?
This type of rifle is all new to me so any help greatly appreciated!!
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Wow. I've just re-crowned the barrel and I'm now getting 1/2" groups at 20yds! Thats more like it!
I suspect when I was chrony'ing before I wasn't concentrating too much on accuracy, but even so it shoots really well.
Its hard to get an accurate bead on the target with these open sites though, but should be fine to get a pigeon!
I have a little more faith in the rifle now, was wondering what I had bought!!
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ill chrony mine today with ten pumps all ill pump her , and 13.43 h and ns and post it, then ill do same with benjamins
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my blue streak 1973 with benjamin 14.3 655 with an h and n 13.27 689fps with a 13 grain predator polymag 693 fps, have a 1958 i biught the other day on its way, will chrono when that comes, also have a friend who just got his 1953 flattop silver streak back from getting steroided by tim at mac1 airguns with the 14.3 benjamin ammo was 931 fps , with 14 pumps
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So with ten pumps your looking at around 13.4-14 lbft which is about 2-2.5lbft more than mine.
Looks like it'll need a strip down and perhaps some new seals?
Is there anywhere that has instructions on stripping down the blue streak, i've seen the exploded diagrams but not instructions...?
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Got some different pellets arriving on monday so will try it again with them.
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the guns vary from gun to gun, but yes the difference could be the seals, what youve been oiling them with, i sue secret sauce from timmy mac, its wonderfull stuff, great anti wear properties, tim told me they shot a gun for 15 years 20 shots a day, then they broke down gun to see, no wear, it also wont gum up the seals and pump, mine i will tell you does a nice job on rabbits , i will try to dig up instructs , if not go to the mac1 gate and send tim an email he will be happy to tell you how to do it, he s rebuilt sevral guns and steroided a few for me , he s been doing it for 40 odd years , he really knows his stuff , i bet you will find alot of sludge in her, what do you oil it with?
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Well I have only just got her two days ago so am not sure what lubricant to use. I understand there is a special tool that is needed to strip the gun down.
The problem is that I'm in the UK so getting parts is hard. I will send Tim an email and see what the best course of action is. I'm not sure if I can get his Secret Sauce sent over here, but I will ask.
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i know the tool can be gotten from bryan and associates look at their website , some make it with a spare ratchet socket, if he wont send it direct i will surely send it its the best stuff, in the mean time you can use air tool oil or compressor oil the viscosity is a hair thinner but it works and keeps the valve nice , just by lubing it if it hasnt been lubed it might help the gun out, im waiting on a 1958 that will be shipped monday , the older rifles from the 50s had really nice barrels , am anxious to see difference in gun i will post pics whe i get it and let you know on performance
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Will have a look at the tool, I may be able to make it myself (I'm an engineer).
I have air tool oil, so will try that for the time being. I sent Tim an email, will see what he says.
Thanks for your help by the way, it's very much appreicated!
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k anytime toby , tim may take a day or 2 , he s always busy but he will get back to you
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Tool and reseal kit has been ordered from Bryan & Associates, very quick reply to my email. Shipping isn't too bad either.
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Tool and reseal kit has been ordered from Bryan & Associates, very quick reply to my email. Shipping isn't too bad either.
IIRC the kit will include installation instructions.
Try here for instructions: <http://anotherairgunblog.blogspot.com/search/label/sheridan> Tom
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Cheers Tom, I think your right they did mention some instructions. That link was useful to see it stripped down. That chap clearly has plenty of experience!!
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yes they are experienced , its a worthwhile project, that gun will last you the rest of your life, now when you rebuild it, it will take some shots to break it in, when i gave you those chrono numbers i shot 5 shot strings , 4 out of the 5 were duplicate readings, so mine is well broken in, youll probably be amazed at the amount of &^^& that comes out of that gun also, i used mine the other day to dispatch some garden pests, im always amazed at it s ability to do such, now i have several steroids, bt invariably i pick up the streak to do work, cant wait to get my 58 that i bought will probably be here wednesday, will test and post , its in absolutely beautifull condition, but until i shoot it you never know about internals , i may be doing same as you soon , you will see , keep us posted its a worthwhile project
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Toby,
I suppose by now you've noted that brb and I are the Sheridan cheering section.;o)
As he noted above your rifle should be shooting much stronger and once you get it in good fettle I think you'll find yourself very surprised indeed by the velocity stability. The vast majority of springers can't hold a candle for it in that respect!
Below the line you will find a composite of my writings about Sheridans within the past year to various correspondents & airgun boards. Tom
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I only have 3 Sheridans left but they're all 'keepers'. If I HAD to depend on an airgun to put protein on my table in a real survival situation it would be my # 1 choice. My oldest one---a 1st series 1949-'51 Silver Streak---was last rebuilt in the early sixties of the past century after it was given to me by a cousin who thought it was 'worn out'. It's been used----a LOT! I'd still trust it with my life! I have a couple of later model rocker safety Blue Streaks--'66 & '69--that are as accurate as the early hold-down safety Silver Streak but I've 'said Grace' over both of them and they will embarrass most high $ imports in both power AND accuracy.
Just for the He11uvit treat yourself to a good mid-late '60s rocker-safety Sheridan. Expect to pay @ $150---give or take depending on condition. Costs little to rebuild but well done they approach---or even exceed----700 fps with a 14.3 Premier (15.5 FPE). Put the # 64 Williams peepsight made for it on the rear and prepare yourself to fall in love with airgunning all over again. The '60s rifles were scarily accurate as were all the early Model Cs from 1949 up----and they're pretty close to eternal in airgun terms. The triggers never even heard of a lawyer and the bronze barrels just seem to improve with age. They virtually define 'shooter-friendly' and will make you wonder why in blue blazes you're sweating blood by trying to wring accuracy out of a recalcitrant springer when your C model yields it so eagerly. A good C will make you love pumping!
There's just something 'right' about an old pumper that makes it belong in every outdoorsman's home. Perfect medicine for defending Martin houses, bird feeders and property from usurpers wearing fur or feathers. Good snake medicine in a boat and an endless source of amusement in camp. Not much beats sitting on a shoreline in a shaded lawnchair with a cold barley soda near to hand and lazily putting in a few pumps and picking dragonflies off of the catttails on a lazy Summer day. Even the pumping becomes almost hypnotic at times like that and cares fall away like the leaves of Autumn. Think of them as balm for the soul in such idyllic circumstances.
Some things are universally recognized as classics, the Parthenon, a Bugatti and a Parker double barrel among them. The Sheridan C comes from a similar mold. Cheers, Tom @ Buzzard Bluff
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As I'm going to strip it down and reseal it I decided to take the stock off and sand it down to re-oil it. There's a few bumps and marks but it really is in very good condition. I don't really like the shiney look so will be using some oil to give it a matt finish.
I'm amazed at how light and portable this rifle is, and onced I'd re-crowned it how accurate. I'm thinking of getting the peep sight for it but the only reason for hesitating is that I don't have the bolt holes in the side of the bolt block so I would have to drill and tap them which I'm confident in being able to do but just not sure if I should. I know it will help with accuracy as the open sights aren't that good, but its 40 years old and I would that its a bit wrong. What do you chaps think?
It's really good to find people so enthusiastic about these rifles, especially with them being so old. You just don't seem to get quite the same enthusiasm with more modern rifles, and even old classics.
I'm really glad I bought this rifle now, looking forward to getting into tip top shape!
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I think most Sheridan enthusiasts would view a Williams peep as a bonus. I have glass on mine, but will likely drill it for the peep at some point. Either way, this is one I will never sell, so the resale value is of no consequence to me. Once you've had yours a while, you'll understand. Any non-detergent oil will work on the seal as will pellgun oil if you have it available. A couple of drops in the intake hole and let it sit in a corner for a day or two....
pv
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tim from mac1 told me never use any motor oil non detergent or not, for a few reasons , the biggest being the sludge factor, and to never put it in that hole, alot of guns say do not oil right by the hole, oil them at the pivots , then let the gun work the oil in by the blowby, they were designed for that,im not a fan of pelgunoil, but prefer it over any petroleum product, id rather use air tool oil if nothing else ,i have glass on mine as these 45 year old eyes arent the best anymore , the one i have coming the 58 has a mount the original sheridan mount for those guns , but whatever you prefer is what will suit, yes they are highly reliable , i have had pumpers for 35 years and dad had 312s that i never resealed and still shoot hard today,
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Well I've used some air tool oil as its all I have thats even close to whats recommended. Just put some on the hinge points. Once I've got the wood done I'll give it some shooting and see how it goes. Hopefully will receive the new seals etc in the next couple of weeks so will have a proper look then.
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hey-Hey!!!,
Just chronied my 'new' Blue and it shoots Crow Magnums at 700 fps on 8 pumps for 13.6 FPE. Not at all shabby IMO. Can't wait for Silver...:)
cheers,
Douglas
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dont know if ya s hunt or not, but those guns sure like predator polymags , thjey do a nice clean kill too, im glad you used air tool oil viscosity is a hair off but wont sludge , set a fire and will displace moisture , if yhou need me to send you some secret sauce pm me toby, i think mac will ship it tho
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well my 58 strerak will be here tom orrow confirmed it , will post pics , exterior of gun is in very nioce shape blueuing excellent, well see on internals
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Thanks for the offer John, still not heard from Tim, but will be patient. If I don't hear anything from him by the weekend I might send you a PM...
Looking forward to seeing some pics of the '58 when it arrives, sounds like you've bought a good one.
I only really shoot pigeons at the moment and I'm not confident enough in the sights. I've got a weirhauch HW77 on its way with a scope on which should be pretty good. I'm thinking more and more about the peep sights though for the Blue Streak, could be just what I need. Really don't want to put a scope on it though as it will change the character too much for me.
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i shoot alot of rabbits s squirrels and pigeons and doves , we have an abundance here , and many many starlings, mine are all scoped my pumpers, eyes arent what they used to be , you will hear from tim he s always slow, if not ill call him order it and @$%^ it there , its good stuff and well worth the wait as it has anti wear stuff in it, occasionally ill see a groundhog also and shoot them good luck with the gun ill post pic when it get it and see what she chrono s at
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Decided to strip the gun down a bit more today. Taken the rod and trigger mech off. As there's not much I can do till I get the tool and new parts I decided to shine up the end cap, it looks fantastic! Also gave the slider of the rod a bit of a polish too to help keep thing smooth. Not quite as shiney but certainly better than it was.
Really looking forward to getting this thing back together and looking good!
I can get the polymags over hear in 0.20 so might get some to try on the pigeons. The pellets I've got so far are Logun Penetrator, H&N Pointed, H&N FTT, Bisley Super Field and Bisley Pest Control (Hollow Point). Only tried the Logun's so far but when its all back together will do a proper series of chrono'd/accuracy tests. Looking forward to it.
Presumably once I fit the new seals etc I'll need to bed it in a bit?
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Hey John, I read on another post that Tim modified your trigger, do you know what he did? I've just done some polishing on the sear points on my weirhauch, got them nice and shiney for smooth operation. Is that the same as what Tim did on yours?
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yes he polished it, he did a fine job,they also do somehting with a spring i belive take one out or something like that , or replace , im not quite sure , its light and crisp, the predator polymags do a wonderfull jobs on doves and pigeons , oon everything they hit for that matter , they are very very accurate also , consistent , ive shot the h and n also , good pellet , never shot the loguns, glad to see the project is coming along , yes you will have o break her in a bit, you will know when you have consistent accuracy and the chrono readings tighten up, my seventy three is so broke in if i pump it up ten pumps ten times , maybe ill get a variance of 1 fps in 1 often pump ups , she is consistent , but that makes her accurate , will see what i have with the 58 tomorrow , kept in excellent condition outside we will see internals ,
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I would imagine he changed the spring rather than remove it. Possible a weaker spring so the trigger is a bit lighter? Not sure, will have to try some different springs and see what its like. Didn't feel too bad as standard actually, but will give the sear a polish anyway.
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yes they are not horrible stock springs , but i know they can be made a tad better , hoping to my 58 streak today should be here this afternoon, hopefully that wont turn into a project
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Lets hope its a good 'un!
Spring on the trigger is quite stiff actually feeling it out of the rifle. Will see if I can find something different lying around to try.
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still waiting, i had to put mastiffs up have 2 french mastiffs and a st bernard and they tend to get riled up by noisy trucks and strange peolple in uniform, the fed ex guy is good he tosses treats then hustles his way , the ups guy throws the package into driveway while truck is still moving, they are intimidating , so thought best to oput them up , i will post , says its still due here today , good luck with the trigger , did you reach tim about secret sauce , i spoke to him other morn about lord stanleys cup winners he s waited 45 for a championship , about the same time it takes to get one of your guns back from him lol
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well gun arrived im very very pleased , the scope is a bushnell banner 3 x9 has original sheridan scope base , the chrono with a benjamin is 651, will post pic after zero and accuracy testing, i am pleased as the scope is worth 80 buck, paid 130 bucks total and gun is in very very good shape came with 2 tins of benjamin pellets 500 count, a great buy
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here it is, hope you didnt mind me using your post toby , she s a pretty clean gun 58 sheridan , the original box was in good shape , not perfect , but glad to have it , going to get her zeroed, now if it shoots that would be a plus
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hers how it chronod with benji pellets
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Gorgeous wood! You stole it!
Congrats! Tom
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thank you , thought i did good, it does shoot really nice also
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Wow!!! 1958?! I don't believe it!! That is fantastic condition, you got a beauty there, and for that price too, very jealous!
At 651fps you aren't going to need to do much to that!
(no news from Tim yet, no rush though. Would quite like to get the billet lever he does, looks very nice)
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Have managed to strip it down now as far as I can without the special tool, its all pretty straight forward really.
Now just the waiting game, although I can get the stock in good order before it all arrives.
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Taken the stock back to bare wood and given it a good rub down. First coat of oil and she's really starting to look good! The grain is starting to stand out.
No pics until she's done though ;)
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i understand, what oil are you using tung?
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Boiled linseed oil. I've used it on a couple of previous stocks, slight yellowing colour, but really brings out the grain. Needs a few coats though.
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excellent choice!!!
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John, its coming out so much better than I expected. Just got home from work and the 4th or 5th coat had soaked in, it looked fantastic. A really deep matt finish that was just pure wood. Very pleased. Socket driver from germany arrived today, so managed to get that fiddly bolt from the bolt out. What i didn't realise was that when the bolt is removed from the housing there was a little spring. Of course it went shooting over the room, took 10 minutes to find it! Can't wait to get the instructions!!
Now got three guns on the go. Blue Streak, Wierhauch HW77, and a really old Gamo Magnum .22 that my grandad gave me about 30 years ago. Really got the fixing up bug at the moment! Been polishing pistons/tubes/triggers etc. Feels good to have a project on the go again.
Will get some pics of the stock tomorrow when its light, should bring out the wood nicely.
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im looking fwd to it, its always good to have some wrenches turning
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Here's some pics of the finished stock:
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn313/TobyHeath/StockShade2.jpg)
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn313/TobyHeath/StockShade1.jpg)
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn313/TobyHeath/StockSun1.jpg)
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn313/TobyHeath/StockSun2.jpg)
Clearly the choice of wood wasn't the best!
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its very nice i like seing the grain of the wood, will be wuite handsome when its sitting in it
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Woohoo! She's finally all back together!! Took me ages to get the valve back in, just couldn't get the thread to catch. They make it sound so easy in the instructional manual!
Anyway, new seals, newly finished stock, couple of shiney bits and I now need to wait till tomorrow to shoot her properly. Will get some more pics up with chrony results as well. She'll need some shooting to get bedded in though. Interesting to see how fast she's shooting with 8 pumps...
Have to say Bryan and Associates were very quick in getting the parts over here, very good service.
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yes most everybody you deal with here is good cant wait to see difference in chrony numbers she sjhould pump nice too, was there alot of sludge and stuff you had to clean out?
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Actually no, it was in pretty good condition really. The rod seal rubber had started to crack and the rubber seal on the valve was non-existant, but apart from that it was ok.
I have replaced the rubber seal on the valve with an 'o' ring as the seal I was sent broke when I tried to put it together which wasn't great. The 'o' ring fits perfectly and should give a very good seal to the valve.
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Right, chrono figures are as follows:
8 pumps = ave. of 576.78 fps = 11.53lbft
10 pumps = ave. of 621.43 fps = 13.38lbft
So comparing it to the old figures
523 fps giving 9.29 lbft for 8 pumps its gone up by over 2 lbft! and for 10 pumps 584 fps giving 11.58 lbft is about the same increase again.
I'm very pleased with that as the manuals say 8 pumps is the preferred amount of pumps and this means that for UK 8 pumps is just below legal limit.
Perfect. Just shoots so smoothly, now just need to get a williams peep sight on it and she be lovelly!
Its raining today so finished photo's will have to wait.
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im very happy for ya toby, it was a worthwhile project , the valves are strong enough for ten, but i know theres an fpe limit in the uk , she will gain some cvelocity also as she beds in as you brits like to say, id say she will be around 640 650 when she s ready , but thats just conjecture, best of all she will also you a lifetime , been very very hot here , going to do some shooting now myself all the best john
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I'm amazed how little recoil there is, even when at 13+ilbft. My old gamo springer is shooting at 11.6 lbft with new spring etc and that feels worse than my old .22RF!
Just need lots of practice with those open sights...
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i never took kindly to springers , now i know there are great springers out there , they are too hold sensitive for me , but for younger people great guns for them to learn how to shoot , i like my pcpand pumpers , yes the recoil is about noin existent on the pumpers , even on my steroid 22 which cranks out 22 cal 18 grain pellets at 860 , there is no recoil , i love the pumpers , they are works of art as well as good shooters you did a nice job on yours , i dont see a bright future for pigeons over there toby
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For me its about consistancy, with a PCP the pressure of the air changes with every shot. I also didn't like having to rely on a dive cylinder or pump to charge it again (despite being a diver). I prefer the independance of a springer or a pumper. There's no doubt that both PCP and Pumpers have very little recoil though. I'm hoping with the VMach kit and polishing of the relevant parts should reduce the recoil in my HW77.
Lots of testing to do now, getting the right pellet for the rifle. And thats for both the HW77 as well as the Sheridan.
Pigeons will definitately be on the decline!
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hey-Hey!!!,
On the Williams, let me make a suggestion or two. First, get the .050 apreture. I don't think the 1" will fit w/o modification( and I will modify mine ), so I got both 3/8 and 1" in .050". Next, get some epoxy and glue the sight on. There is not much for those threads to do but hold it while the glue 'dries' IMO, there just isn't much engagement length there. I did not employ the screws, just the glue. It was one recomended by a vibration engineer as the stuff they use to glue down accelerometer mounts. Working fine so far...:)
I also took a 1/2" Mendoza apreture and reduced its apreture to .053 with an aluminium washer( this was then super-glue'd in place). Can't wait to try this one out while I wait for the second Williams sight and small target apretures to arrive.
cheers,
Douglas
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As mine doesn't have the screw holes anyway, that is a very good idea!!
Not sure what you mean about getting the 0.50" aperture as I can't find anywhere on the Williams website about different apertures?
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Before I go down the williams peep sight route, are these suitable for hunting? I don't have a major problem with the open sights and was wondering if you can see what your shooting easily enough with the peep sights?
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Before I go down the williams peep sight route, are these suitable for hunting? I don't have a major problem with the open sights and was wondering if you can see what your shooting easily enough with the peep sights?
Absolutely! In fact peeps are my preference for hunting at airgun range of 40 yds. or less. Unlike scopes which seem to need readjustment with the phases of the moons of Saturn once a good quality peep is adjusted it stays in adjustment.
An oft overlooked peep benefit is that an aperture acts as a focusing lens and peeps are still practical for those whose eyes can no longer cope with blurry open sights. So they are practical long-term investments as well.
Do a bit of historical research to see what the target shooters of the 19th century could do with peepsights at the 1000 yd. matches such as Creedmore. You WILL be pleasantly surprised! Tom
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hey-Hey!!!,
I ordered from Natchez( and they have the widest line of aperatures for the sights of anybody I saw yet ), and there are two diameters in question: outer diameter of the flat face with a hole in the center to look through and that of the hole itself. Williams are available in either 1" or 3/8" face diameters. The second is the aperature, aka what you're looking through. In that let me suggest .050" or ~1.25 mm diameter. I discovered by accident that Mendoza peeps have a 1/2" outter face diameter and that is what I'll be using 'til I get the natchez order...but I reduced its ID to .053" from .093". The 1" will require either a notch or a complete reduction in diameter. Haven't decided on which I'll do yet.
The peep sight works by the pin-hole effect; it gives an improved depth of focus( ability to see both near and far). You wish to be able to focus on both front sight post and target simultaneously or the game is up. The peep sight offers this ability; look through the small hole and the depth of fucus increases. Smaller is better, but as with your iris, smaller requires more light.
As far as hunting goes, they're quite good. I used one to qualify Expert one summer long ago at the MCRD PI and that was up to 500 yards. 232 out of 250 for second highest marks out of the 4-platoon series...:)
cheers,
Douglas
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What size aperture does the standard 5D-SH peep come with? I've found them on MidwayUK which is good. Shipping and extra costs from Nachez is ridiculous despite them being alot cheaper. It's going to cost me $94 for the 5D + the aperture from MidwayUK assuming I need to buy a 0.50" aperture...
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Yet another question! Whats the difference between the 'regular' aperture and the 'twilight' aperture? Are they the same size thread etc?
IGNORE THIS QUESTION I'VE JUST LOOKED AT THE WILLIAMS CATALOGUE AND IT GIVES ALL THIS INFORMATION! SORRY!!
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What size aperture does the standard 5D-SH peep come with? I've found them on MidwayUK which is good. Shipping and extra costs from Nachez is ridiculous despite them being alot cheaper. It's going to cost me $94 for the 5D + the aperture from MidwayUK assuming I need to buy a 0.50" aperture...
Wow!!! Please let me help; that is $50 US plus shipping to UK( another $10 perhaps? ) so I can save you a bit...now that is 0.050" or fifty thousandths of an inch...:)
The glue is Devcon Plastic Welder No. 14300. Two part in a black box, and loaded in a two barrel syringe. Smells terrible, like it should be a controlled substance like the old model glue...:)
cheers,
Douglas
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Thanks for the offer Douglas, I ended up buying it anyway. Too kean to try it out!!
I've used devcon before on engines when we were testing them. Very good stuff. Very strong. I can drill and tap the action myself so when it arrives I'll have a look and see if it's worth it or not. The only problem is that devcon is very expensive stuff and you can't buy it in small quantities. However, I'm sure I can find something suitable if required.
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I take back what I said about small quantities, I guess thats just the metal welding stuff. Found the syringe type stuff your talking about at a reasonable price.
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yes the guns are very suitable for hunting, ive killed ground hogs rabbits , squirrels , raccoons and many many doves and starling, i wish my eyes were good enoughto use a peep, i used when i shot smallbore, i do have about 5 sets of the original sheridan scope bases /mounts , so ive scoped mine, the gun as far as killing is good to a max of 60yds for me anyhow , ive killed some squirrels that far , they are fine guns, im glad you resealed yours , its truly a piece of art , enjoy it
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hey-Hey!!!,
I tried moving out to 45 yards. One pump more, and a 2" hold over did the trick for JSB's...:) It still left a few fliers due to windage...but I am not going to worry about scoping this '73 Blue.
cheers,
Douglas
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Ok, i've now got the williams peep sight, but with no screw holes I've no idea how far from the rear of the action the sight should be mounted.
I have also been trying to find out what thread size the bolts are so I can drill and tap the sight onto the action, but had no luck so far...?
Can someone tell me how far the sight should be mounted? best use the distance from the rear of the action where the bolt goes in to the rear of the base mount
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p.s. I can't believe in this day and age that Williams don't have an email address!!
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Ok, i've now got the williams peep sight, but with no screw holes I've no idea how far from the rear of the action the sight should be mounted.
I have also been trying to find out what thread size the bolts are so I can drill and tap the sight onto the action, but had no luck so far...?
Can someone tell me how far the sight should be mounted? best use the distance from the rear of the action where the bolt goes in to the rear of the base mount
The theads are #6-48UNEF. Put the sight as far back as you can; I think mine is just awee bit forward of that. Assemble it and lay it against the action and see what it looks like. As far back as you can and still clear the bolt...:)
cheers,
Douglas
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Douglas is that 6/48th's UNEF?
Thanks for the information, will see if I can get the tap and drill for it.
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Nope, got it. This is what I'm after right http://www.midwayusa.com/product/293476/weaver-drill-and-tap-set-with-32-drill-and-6-48-thread-tap (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/293476/weaver-drill-and-tap-set-with-32-drill-and-6-48-thread-tap)?
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Nope, got it. This is what I'm after right http://www.midwayusa.com/product/293476/weaver-drill-and-tap-set-with-32-drill-and-6-48-thread-tap (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/293476/weaver-drill-and-tap-set-with-32-drill-and-6-48-thread-tap)?
that will do. now, just one thing...notice how far back from the tip the full threads start. I bought two taps. One I ground back a fair bit to use as the starter, and the other I ground back all the way to full threads for a bottoming tap. The holes are not very deep, and there is little space behind if you decide to go all the way through( and I am not certain this is a good idea; I think it looks like the hole will intersect the main tube and I do not want to interfere with hammer travel).
cheers,
Douglas
in any case, the glue alone is still holding...:) I have not yet tapped one. On the 1977 blue I got from Dad it also has a glued on Peep sight, and that one hasn't fallen off either.
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Yeah I'm thinking the glue may be the best route as they want £9 for the parts and £9 postage which is ridiculous!!
Will get some of the Devcon and give that a try.